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re: Are Oklahoma Sooners fans regretting coming into the SEC?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:07 pm to Gman84
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:07 pm to Gman84
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You’ll get sky high for the marquis matchups but can easily get tripped up on consecutive road games sandwiched in between. Night games at places like SC and Starkville can get surprisingly hostile with a natural let-down after a few weeks of LSU, Bama type games.
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Its the Ole Miss, random Kentucky, or Arkansas playing their arse off against you that trip you up and can sink you.
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:07 pm to JetDawg
OU may find itself in the perfect storm to go the route of Nebraska. They have similar histories. OU was, when the announcement was made, on top of the CFB world...steady was the operative word. Coming into the SEC was going to present problems but doing so with an unproved coach and what may well be a resurgent Texas OU is facing some severe risk.
When the announcement was made OU was in better shape than Texas to fit in. It is hard to imagine how Texas will get well in the SEC seeing as they could not do so in the Big 10 but they might....OU will probably be fine but it would not be surprising to see them follow Nebraska into the dustbin of CFN history...
When the announcement was made OU was in better shape than Texas to fit in. It is hard to imagine how Texas will get well in the SEC seeing as they could not do so in the Big 10 but they might....OU will probably be fine but it would not be surprising to see them follow Nebraska into the dustbin of CFN history...
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:08 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I don't care about the article from some random loser that is insecure about OU's lack of National Titles.
You cared enough to get all emotional about it, random message board poster.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:19 pm to MOJO_ERASER
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frick no a few fans maybe but as a 90 percent whole no. Did they do OU any favors with the schedule no …. But it will even out. OU will be fine .
Historically LSU Bama UGA have either been close games or a win by OU…. except the blowout by LSU which they blew out Clemson even worse. We beat Bama and lost by 11. UGA should have won but lost double OT… LSU a national title game we dropped a pass in the endzone and lost by 7 last play of the game. I think you are dreaming of you think we are going to be pushovers ….. you’re living off of what LSU did one year which was historic. Now yes has Bama and UGA a kicked it up a notch in recruiting yes. So the gap may be bigger and probably is time will tell for sure .
Playing Alabama, Georgia and LSU in January with 4 weeks to prepare is different than playing Alabama, Georgia or LSU after back to back games against Auburn and Florida or some similar combination. OU and Texas both could compete with the top of the SEC when OU and Texas were playing TCU and Baylor and TT...but outside of Vandy there ain't no Kansas's in the SEC....everyone in the SEC has huge linemen on both sides of the ball who are quick as cats and SEC defenses team speed is not something you can know about until you've experienced in person week in and week out. SEC coaching is also top notch...huge difference in being able to prepare with 5 days of practice between games. That grind is going to be big step up for both OU and Texas....while OU and Texas will merely be a really good football team on par with the 4th -12th best teams in the SEC, at least initially. Both may well prove to be able to step up...and no doubt will from time to time, but OU is in the middle of a perfect storm that would be problematic if it weren't for the move and Texas couldn't get right in the Big 12....
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:23 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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The SEC is going to have to make sure these arrogant Texans don’t destroy our conference. They did it to the SW conference and now the big 12 is teetering on the edge. Texas hasnt even been admitted to the SEC yet and they are already bragging about their money and demanding that the SEC championship game and SEC office be moved to their state. They are trouble and the schools of the SEC are gonna have to let them know who’s in charge
The south...the real south...has survived carpet baggers before and will do so again. Its what we do...folks come in and think they can get over because eerybody knows folks from the south ain't got good smarts...and it usually those folks don't realize until they get back where the belong just how badly beaten the ignorant southerner took advantage of them. Any fool can become a millionaire in the oil patch...it takes a damned genius to earn a living from Myrtle Beach to the Sabine River and from Lexington to Key West....yet we most of us make a damned fine living....
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:28 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Would any program in the country prefer OU's past 20 years
Utx??
Look Georgia Tech has 4 Natty's under 4 different coaches in 4 different eras. That is impressive over a long window of time but Alabama is still the Blue Blood in the South.
If you look at only a decade or two then Minnesota has to be near the top of the list but nobody thinks that. Miami rode the rocket for a decade or two but have not been able to sustain it. There is something to be said for any program that has been winning at the highest level for roughly a century.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:29 pm to Old Sarge
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Amongst college football fans
Travel around a little, no one HATES Oklahoma or it’s fans, go anywhere from California to Ohio to West Virginia, everyone HATES the pansies in Austin
To be fair if a Texan finds someone who is not put off by them they will shite in a punchbowl to remedy the situation. They are the progeny of the poorest of the poor from the east coast who could not hack it and wound up in the most godforsaken region in the United States. Then oil became a thing and here we are...all of the bluster and pride that is part of any Texan worth his hat is a mask for the insecurity bred from knowing that they are damned lucky that Mississippi is utopia compared to Texas without oil....new money and personal shame will do that to folks. That is the natives of Texas...the majority of folks in Texas are just like the carpet baggers in Georgia...they fouled there own nests so thoroughly that leaving and starting anew is all they have left...they are even more insecure.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:32 pm to Sooner1984
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Here's something funny about Austin not being a "cultural fit."
Drive 3 hours north from Austin and you're in Fort Worth.
Drive 3 hours north from Knoxville and you're in freaking Cincinatti. Eating chili in your spaghetti. That's kinda embarrassing that ya'll agree to live that close to the chili-spaghetti crowd. Wow.
Cincinatti is more culturally similar to the south than DFW is...
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:41 pm to Prof
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TBH, I thought Riley was right. Same for FSU and Clemson. What interest do they have here knowing they have an easy path to the playoffs where they are? Things will change again as shite expands but teams will still suffer the grind of a season and that puts so much more pressure on getting elite depth to make it through the season AND the playoffs in one piece and that's something very few teams have. AND even when you have it you still need a whole lot of luck to go your way.
Over the last 10 cycles an average of nearly 4 existing SEC teams were either ranked ahead of or between OU and Texas....UGA, LSU and Alabama have ranked in the top 5 each of those years while Texas and OU have ranked in the top 10. It is just different. Both will get a bump from playing in the SEC but is it going to be a bigger bump than UGA, LSU and Alabama get in Texas playing the same type of schedule as Texas and OU??? That is questionable at best, especially considering the questions both have at head coach. The first 3 cycles will be VERY important....fail to crack that LSU, Bama UGA stranglehold and even the Tennessees and the like and OU and Texas may be in for a long hard road...
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:46 pm to WG_Dawg
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That poster is correct and I've said the same thing for years. The entire point of playign games is to win the most amount of them that you can. I mean no one would argue that, rihgt? So logically, it amkes no sense to make things harder on yourself and MORE difficult to win as many games as you can.
That's why I keep saying, if we're moving to bigger conferences - and it's looking more and more like we are - only importing super-teams isn't going to work. The SEC needs some middle teams as well. I'd concentrate of geography and staying in college towns - which the SEC so far has done.
That means, at least to me, giving a look to a Virginia or NC State in addition to a Florida State and Clemson and such. Or an Oklahoma State - who I was really hoping the SEC would poach anyway.
I think the mistake to avoid is the Big Ten idea of going West Coast. That's not going to help, anymore than taking Maryland and Rutgers helped. I'd say Texas / Oklahoma is the Western limit, and Kentucky is as far north as you want to go. And as much as possible, stick to the land-grant college only towns as much as possible. Sorry Georgia Tech. Well, not really.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:49 pm to JetDawg
I would say they are excited as hell. How could you not be. Plus this will really help the future of their programs that would have been left behind had they not moved.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:59 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
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You kind of were their prisoner while in the Big 12. That’s the perception.
Whose perception? Aggots?
Tell me.......how does a "prisoner" (OU) dominate both the prison (BIG XII) and it's Warden (texsa) for so many years?
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My understanding when we went to the SEC, Slive wanted OU to go with us but you did not.
Why would we go anywhere with aggot?
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Now you are with Texas.
We have ties to texsa, and they do to us. There's this college football institution called OU/TX. It's a football game of national prominence. You may have heard about it?
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Anyway, I think the move will let you break free from Texas, similar to your Big 8 days which so happen align with the best years of your history.
There's nothing to "break free from". We're old historical rivals. We were old historical rivals when we were in the Big 8 as well. We play every year and we like it what way.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:07 pm to JetDawg
Since joining the SEC ATM averages a little over 5 conference wins per season and Missouri averages a little over 4. These are teams that Texas and OU have winning records against so it'd be fair to say one or both will fair slightly better than ATM and Mizzoo...so say a little over 6 wins per season. That ain't gonna get you in the SEC title game and probably ain't gonna get you in the playoff. Both are going to have to find a better way to navigate their path through the SEC than any of their former conference mates have...including Arkansas.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:10 pm to AwgustaDawg
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OU may find itself in the perfect storm to go the route of Nebraska.
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They have similar histories.
Like what?
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OU was, when the announcement was made, on top of the CFB world...steady was the operative word.
OU was a facade under Riley. A deeply flawed one-dimensional facade propped up by Heisman QB play.
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Coming into the SEC was going to present problems but doing so with an unproved coach and what may well be a resurgent Texas OU is facing some severe risk.
I'll let you know when texsa is "resurgenting". All I see from them is they're back to recruiting at a high level in their home state. They've always been able to do that historically. What they're doing now is nothing compared to how Mack Brown recruited.
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When the announcement was made OU was in better shape than Texas to fit in.
False. See above comment about the "facade". See also: Oklahoma playoff results against teams that weren't one-dimensional facades.
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It is hard to imagine how Texas will get well in the SEC seeing as they could not do so in the Big 10 but they might....OU will probably be fine but it would not be surprising to see them follow Nebraska into the dustbin of CFN history...
texsa has never been in the Big 10. As the sole person on this board who accurately predicted Georgia (not aggot) was the true "sleeping giant" in the SEC a few years ago on here, I'll let you know who the next "sleeping giant" is. It's texsa.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:21 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Any fool can become a millionaire in the oil patch...it takes a damned genius to earn a living from Myrtle Beach to the Sabine River and from Lexington to Key West....yet we most of us make a damned fine living....
I'm pretty sure Mississippi, home to two SEC programs, has the highest poverty rate in the country, followed by Louisiana. I could be wrong, but I think Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, Arkansas and Kentucky are annually among the poorest states. Those states house 8 SEC programs. Or, are those states not the real south?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:05 pm to JetDawg
If booger eating Mizzou can win your conference, Blue Blood Oklahoma can too.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:15 pm to JustinOKC
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If booger eating Mizzou can win your conference, Blue Blood Oklahoma can too.
They didn't win the conference. They got to the title game and got skull drug both times.
Since we're leaning towards no divisions it means the two best records. That means you have to win at least 8,neither of you are winning 8 at this point. If ever.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:24 pm to TideTurf
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Since we're leaning towards no divisions it means the two best records. That means you have to win at least 8,neither of you are winning 8 at this point. If ever.
So in your mind, the two teams in the conference championship game each season are going to be 8-0.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:05 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
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So in your mind, the two teams in the conference championship game each season are going to be 8-0.
If we go to no divisions and top two teams, its a possibility if those teams don't play each other during the regular season. Next spring meeting we'll get concrete changes. Until then is all speculation.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:02 pm to Cheese Grits
So if you’re an LSU fan, you’d rather have OU’s past 20 years instead of 4 National Championships? Why?
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