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re: Anyone surprised at how close Alabama-Auburn has been?

Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Aliasau
Santa Rosa Beach Florida
Member since May 2020
1097 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:35 pm to

“The only goal of auburns team each year to beat Bama - if they know that losing every game would allow them to beat Bama they would. They work on Bama prep every week of the season. I don’t fault them because if you can beat the best then you are pretty damn good. I do think if the iron bowl would stop being yearly their program would become bottom feeder. But they would never let that happen. It is funny that in Alabama air in gets equal time and attention in the state media - the second you leave the state you never hear a peep about them.”

Do you feel better now.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33238 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:42 pm to
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During the time you are talking about 23-47, AU had 7 losing seasons. Most in the late 20s and early 30s.


Alabama had several national championships. So?

Alabama had 0 losing seasons during the entire stretch and one .500 season. Auburn had 9 losing seasons and 6 .500 seasons.

Alabama had a better record 23 times, Auburn 8 times, and their records were even 7 times (and two seasons where Alabama didn't field a team; in one of those, Auburn didn't field one either - 1943 - and in the other, 1918, Auburn won 2 games but Alabama didn't have a team).

Alabama was just the better program. No one is saying that the record would have been 23-8-7 during that stretch or anything, just that it's very likely Alabama wins the majority of the games played

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:45 pm to
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all of this bullshite and you still haven't said why you forced Auburn to play at Legion Field when it was their home game?
What part about "money" do you not understand?
When the B'ham crowd lost that game, how badly do you think that hurt them?
PS- There were more than a few Auburn folks who liked the the status quo!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:12 pm to
Again, you fail to acknowledge that AU had the superior program up until the early 20s. You keep listing overall record, but in the late 20s and 40s , those losing team won 1 or 2 games. That skews the overall record.The fact the Auburn was a land grant University and the depression era, not playing each other was an advantage to Bama. Those who could afford the opportunity to go to college, only knew the flagship schools. The rest went to work or to war.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:25 pm to
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Anyone surprised at how close Alabama-Auburn has been?


Well done. When I saw this I didn't think so many would take the bait.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8562 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:28 pm to
Not really, Auburn is a tough out. Hell, UF had never beaten Auburn in Auburn til 73-74 timeframe.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
19372 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:31 pm to
Nobody, other than Southern Miss grads who are sidewalk LSU fans are surprised.

It’s the best rivalry in the country for a reason. Alabama as a program is historically better, but Barn is nothing to scoff at. They excel more than any other program in the underdog role, I can’t count how many Bama seasons they’ve ruined.

Alabama playing in Jordan Hare makes my butthole pucker like no other game. They thrive in it, while Bama gets tight. They were great in the 80s and early 00s while Bama was average to sucky.

There is no other team more comfortable playing Bama than the Barn. I hate the bastards, but I respect the hell out of them. To me, no Iron Bowl is ever safe no matter how good Bama is and how bad they are.

frick Auburn
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 7:32 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15846 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:49 pm to
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Were tickets allocated 50/50?


Yes
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9035 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:58 pm to
MRAUTigers, you didn’t answer my question: was Auburn forced or otherwise compelled to sign contracts to play in Birmingham.? I don’t care about Auburn deciding they were no longer going to play there in the 1980s. This is all well-trodden ground. I want to know if there was something preventing Auburn from doing it before 1989.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:27 pm to
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. But they would never let that happen. It is funny that in Alabama air in gets equal time and attention in the state media - the second you leave the state you never hear a peep about them.


People truly don't realize what state they are based in. That's always funny. Everyone knows the Crimson Tide, even non-football fans. We are nationwide and always have been. Auburn is provincial and isolated and, like you say, they would wither on the cow patty if not for Alabama giving them exposure over the span of their whole history, basically.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21745 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:38 pm to
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And Auburn was stupid enough to get rid of the only SEC coach that can consistently beat Saban

I don't think you know the meaning of that word.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:50 pm to
No, 10K were sold to members of a Legion Field Group that got tickets to any event held there. Many were members of City Hall and local Chamber of Commerce and a vast majority were Bama fans..
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:48 pm to
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doesn't get any more gump than this

I get that the truth hurts.

Outside of a period from the late 40s through the 50s, Alabama was busy making itself a national brand and bringing southern football to the foreground.

Sorry that you don't like facts.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46257 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:40 pm to
Auburn had a got 6 thing when I moved to mobile
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12353 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:58 pm to
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Sorry that you don't like facts.


You are not using anything close to facts. You're using hope and hypotheticals and nothing more.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12353 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:01 pm to
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they would wither on the cow patty if not for Alabama giving them exposure over the span of their whole history, basically.


This is a post from someone who's never been to Auburn or Tuscaloosa.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29170 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:14 pm to
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MRAUTigers, you didn’t answer my question: was Auburn forced or otherwise compelled to sign contracts to play in Birmingham.?


quote:

This is all well-trodden ground. I want to know if there was something preventing Auburn from doing it before 1989.




Yes. I posted several links on how bama threatened to end the series if it was played in Auburn. bama fought tooth and nail to keep the move from happening. That wasn't a sudden sentiment from bama.



This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 11:16 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:17 pm to
It seems a lot of my fellow Bama fans care about the Auburn series an awful lot, but I just don't. I wish they'd move the game to the beginning of the year because having it at the end makes it seem more important than it is.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12353 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

I want to know if there was something preventing Auburn from doing it before 1989.


UAT signed a contract with the city of Birmingham. But, of course, you know that.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33238 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:24 am to
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Again, you fail to acknowledge that AU had the superior program up until the early 20s.


You had better seasons in 1910, 12, 13, 14, 17 and 22 in the "up to early 20s" range (all but 2 were within 2 wins of each other). In 1908, 09, 15, 16, 19 and 21 the teams had essentially identical records. Alabama had the better record in in 1911 and 1920. (I stopped at 1922 because 1923 was the start of a 9 year run where Alabama was significantly better than Auburn).

Taking out Alabama's run in the 20s, 30s and early 40s doesn't suddenly give Auburn this massive lead. Alabama wasn't quite the powerhouse yet, but it was hardly like Auburn was in the 20s.

Skewing the overall record doesn't apply to my comparison of season to season.

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The fact the Auburn was a land grant University and the depression era, not playing each other was an advantage to Bama. Those who could afford the opportunity to go to college, only knew the flagship schools. The rest went to work or to war.


Playing football games back then wasn't like it is today; I seriously doubt not playing Alabama, the one team where folks already knew of Auburn's existence, would have mattered. You were still playing nearby colleges. Getting UGA, Georgia Tech and Florida was probably much better for getting new students than playing Alabama.

As for "went to war" - Alabama didn't field a team during on of the years of WWI, but Auburn did.
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