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re: Anyone else occasionally just think how weird it is that the SEC let the big 12 in?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:54 am to FAT SEXY
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:54 am to FAT SEXY
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don't think I asked any questions actually.
Ryan Day certainly benefitted from NIL and the new structure though last year. What seed were they again?
That's not the discussion we were having. Ryan Day was employed at Ohio State before any of the circumstances you are saying will draw coaches to their conferece were in place.
In other words, it doesn't seem that Day or Harbaugh accepted their jobs due to the expectation of less competition and more NIL money flow or an easier path to the current playoff structure.
If they were those type of people, they most likely would not have had the success that they had and are having.
Hell, Harbaugh was so competitive he put every team in his conference, and then some, under surveillance nets so complex that the old KGB would have been astounded.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 2:58 am
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:57 am to Mediocre
Markets, more money, so not really. Very big marketplaces to tap into. Texas, OU, Missouri, Aggies all add millions of views so makes market sense.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:58 am to Rick Naban
Most current coaches accepted their jobs under a much different backdrop.
It might come as a shock to you, but the expanded playoff structure only has one year under its belt.
You're creating what the scholars call a "Strawman"
Things aren't going to be as they were.
It might come as a shock to you, but the expanded playoff structure only has one year under its belt.
You're creating what the scholars call a "Strawman"
Things aren't going to be as they were.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:10 am to FAT SEXY
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Most current coaches accepted their jobs under a much different backdrop.
It might come as a shock to you, but the expanded playoff structure only has one year under its belt.
You're creating what the scholars call a "Strawman"
Things aren't going to be as they were.
WTH are you talking about? You just stated this:
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Some quality coaches aren't going to be attracted to the SEC before long
You said this in reference to NEW coaches not being attracted to the SEC due to NIL disadvantages, playoff structure disadvantages, and competiveness of stronger teams and more rabid fanbases.
Now you are trying to flip the conversation in this post by stating this:
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Most current coaches accepted their jobs under a much different backdrop.
You aren't making any sense. Want to start over and try again?
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:30 am to Rick Naban
Dude.. how dense are you? Whiskey sours are hitting hard tonight eh..
We're talking about the future. My first comment said "this league isn't built to last.."
I was implying the future from the jump. I only talked about the last two ships to show that they're a capable league. More and more quality coaches are going to start taking a hard look at the BIG. It's a better setup for playoff runs.
They have better TV contracts as well.
I truly believe that the current SEC will eventually fracture.
Regardless, I'm arguing with a redneck neanderthal that casually makes light of the Confederacy. Not sure why I'm still talking to you tbh.
You obviously think time is static.
I'll have fun bumping this thread in the future btw.
We're talking about the future. My first comment said "this league isn't built to last.."
I was implying the future from the jump. I only talked about the last two ships to show that they're a capable league. More and more quality coaches are going to start taking a hard look at the BIG. It's a better setup for playoff runs.
They have better TV contracts as well.
I truly believe that the current SEC will eventually fracture.
Regardless, I'm arguing with a redneck neanderthal that casually makes light of the Confederacy. Not sure why I'm still talking to you tbh.
You obviously think time is static.
I'll have fun bumping this thread in the future btw.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:50 am to FAT SEXY
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I was implying the future from the jump. I only talked about the last two ships to show that they're a capable league. More and more quality coaches are going to start taking a hard look at the BIG. It's a better setup for playoff runs.
Your whole spiel has been blurted out to reinforce your false assumption that future great coaches will no longer look to the SEC as a valid option due to so many disadvantages, which you listed.
I inform you that you are wrong and that great coaches are competitive and will yearn for the SEC due to the challenges it presents.
For some bizarre reason, at this point, you mention Ohio State and Michigan as examples of great coaches at great teams who won NC's without being in the SEC.
According to you, the reason for Day and Harbaugh choosing the Big 10 was due to this bit of nonsensical bile you mention in the quote below.
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They're going to look at NIL and the new playoff structure and let logic do the reasoning.
If I were a top flight coach I'd rather be in the BIG all day. Easier path to the postseason, less bang on my players.. way less heat from redneck fans.
Of course, that makes no sense whatsoever because the factors you mention weren't in place when they took their jobs.
You make no sense.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:58 am to Mediocre
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How do yall former big 12 teams feel? Yall comfortable yet? Yall feel any SEC pride yet? Is it weird for yall at times too?
It feels awesome. I've been on here saying it since the announcement. Dream come true for me. Yes I feel comfortable but not to be confused with settled in. The strength of schedule is far higher but the week-to-week interest level is also far higher.
The only thing weird is the dumb takes. "OU is Texas's ride-along cheerleader" give me a fricking break.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:09 am to Mediocre
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Anyone else occasionally just think how weird it is that the SEC let the big 12 in?
All the time.
It's worked well for the refugees.
Not so much for us.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:13 am to BamaScoop
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SEC has been good for building Missouris program
They were better in the big 12. If they don’t choke twice against Oklahoma in 2007, they would’ve been in the national title game. They haven’t come close to that since joining the SEC.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:43 am to AlextheBodacious
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They haven’t come close to that since joining the SEC.
Yes they have. If they beat Auburn in the SEC championship in 2013 they go to the National Championship. That game was play in, winner goes to NC.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:56 am to VFL67
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Diluted our southern culture
What BS. It might have diluted your trailerpark perspective. Texas and Ok have strong southern culture in many parts of their states. Get out more.
Texas was settled by people mostly from Tenn, Ga, AL, and Va. Not exactly yankee territory. Texas is more like Ga, Fla, and NC-- The new Urban South. But rest assured our trailerpark types can still relate to you.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:57 am to navy
quote:So, you go on this long rant about geography, then talk about Arkansas being a great addition. Not knocking Arkansas here, but have you looked at a map? You've obviously never been to Fayetteville. It's a really nice town that's 20 miles from Oklahoma, 30 miles from Missouri, and only 70 miles from Kansas. You can complain about the conference not being as compact as it used to be, but it's not a geographic absurdity like the Big 10, the ACC, or the Big XII.
Laugh at the Big 10 all you want.
We have all made ourselves look stupid.
Remember when the Big 10 had 12 teams, and the Big 12 had 10 teams?
We literally let teams into the SEC that were previously part of the SWC.
Geography is not difficult. SOUTHEASTERN conference. We all know what “the southeast” is.
Would have been better off with teams like Clemson, FSU, Miami, maybe Ga Tech. In other words, take football schools in the Southeast that really don’t belong in the ACC.
Arkansas and South Carolina were great additions.
If the SEC was still a 12 team conference, it would not be on the level of the Big Ten and one of two leagues that effectively runs college football.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:05 am to Raoul_Duke
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So much of Oklahoma’s identity is Texas. You play whorn in Dallas. For most of your history your players came from the state of Texas.
You fricking weirdos sing about the horns in your fight song....so tell me about identity being wrapped up in another team some more.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:16 am to Great Plains Drifter
I worked at the very NW corner of Missouri during Big 8 days and it made for some great bets as there were people from Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and Missouri I worked with. Now I work in the SE corner of the state and live across a state line with people working here from Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Missouri.
When I was at A&M, that's when they decided to go merge with the Big 8. Previous to that, A&M didn't care about basketball. Their arena looked worse than many high school arenas. Once they decided to merge, it didn't take long for boosters to go on a spending spree and buildings were popping up everywhere. Brand new basketball arena, Bush library, swimming pool, etc. I was at the 72-0 A&M Mizzou game and then Mizzou returned the favor that year in basketball.
Big 12 had their growing pains. New SEC has theirs. The only thing I don't like is that it costs a lot of money to stream everything I want to see.
When I was at A&M, that's when they decided to go merge with the Big 8. Previous to that, A&M didn't care about basketball. Their arena looked worse than many high school arenas. Once they decided to merge, it didn't take long for boosters to go on a spending spree and buildings were popping up everywhere. Brand new basketball arena, Bush library, swimming pool, etc. I was at the 72-0 A&M Mizzou game and then Mizzou returned the favor that year in basketball.
Big 12 had their growing pains. New SEC has theirs. The only thing I don't like is that it costs a lot of money to stream everything I want to see.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:27 am to Raoul_Duke
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He’s not wrong. You guys don’t fit. You’re lost without Bedlam. So much of Oklahoma’s identity is Texas. You play whorn in Dallas. For most of your history your players came from the state of Texas.
Dumbest shite I'll read all day.
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You need to get Oklahoma State back on the schedule.
We aren't "lost without bedlam" you retard. Bedlam is meaningless. It's pretty clear who's "lost without Bedlam" when you look that the current status of Okie State's program instead of spewing drivel on the internet.
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It’s on the table that OU to SEC ends up like Nebraska to B1G. Not to the degree of losing blue blood status like Nebraska, but there will be a fall in status
"On the table?"
It's a completely made-up narrative by non-functioning retards like yourself to make other non-functioning retards feel better, as I'm sure you and your meth eating cousin Midzou would both vociferously proclaim you gained in status by joining the SEC. Yet somehow, it's curtains for Oklahoma. Bitch please....
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:28 am to YankeeHandle
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Yes they have. If they beat Auburn in the SEC championship in 2013 they go to the National Championship. That game was play in, winner goes to NC.
Michigan State goes to the title game if Mizzou beats Auburn in 2013
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:28 am to KCSilverTiger
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I know most of you hate having us here cause we're not southern enough, but i freaking love Mizzou being in the SEC
I don’t. Y’all are solid from my stand point. I didn’t lump yall in with Texas,OK, and A&M because I don’t get the vibe that yall have been in a historic feud that is interesting to witness from an outsiders standpoint. But I don’t “hate” any teams, but two. And I’ve been hating them for decades lol
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:31 am to Rip N Lip
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What was the benefit of adding Arkansas and South Carolina in 1992
I was 16 when Arkansas joined the SEC (and I got high a LOT back then...), so take this for what its worth. In many ways Arkansas started the expansion idea because Frank Broyles wanted out of the SWC badly. It was a toxic all Texas+1 conference with a lot of very well documented problems. The only other conference we were even remotely interested in was the SEC. At that time Arkansas was very much down in football but had been quite successful in the previous decade but was on a high note in basketball. The SEC wanted to legitimize it's basketball status so Arkansas was brought in to be the foil to Kentucky.
So at the time of joining, what Arkansas brought to the SEC was a consistently great basketball team and a decent football program. That proved true because the basketball team then went on to challenge Kentucky immediately, making the SEC no longer a one horse show. The SEC then overall greatly increased basketball investment which started slow but has led to where it is today. We never held up our end of the bargain in football even though we had some success in the late 90s and intermittently since then but have been a doormat as often as a challenger. We also brought a baseball team fresh off three consecutive college world series visits that languished a little to start but has been kicking arse for quite some time since.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:31 am to LSUTigresFan
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I never gave a frick about Baylor, TTU, TCU, and everyone else.
Funny I was reading a huge reddit thread about the most painful loses in a given school's history. And 2008 VS TTU was by far the most mentioned by Texas fans, second was the UCLA beatdown.. In fact, not long ago the Austin American Statesman ran a story about the same. So clearly many did care. Maybe you are just oblivious.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:33 am to CharlotteSooner
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So "harmless" teams are welcome?
Yup lol
That does kinda sound messed up. Not that the new teams are not competitive, because look what OK did to us last year. All the new teams have played great at times.
I guess I meant harmless as in they arent going to just take over and dominate? lol
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