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Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It's kind of crazy that as affluent and nice as Brookhaven is, the schooling AS A WHOLE is abysmal. Cross Keys is the only HS and it sucks, and the elementary/middle options aren't much better. There's 1 elementary that stands above the rest so that's the one I'd guess yall live near especially since you said there's tons of families moving into it still
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I have 3 smallish humans that I am legally obligated to take care of who were all born at Northside and we still live inside the perimeter.
So I don't know the answer to that question other than the fact that I did not haul arse and neither did the 100 other families that live in my neighborhood (and continue to haul arse into it, ironically).
My son lives exactly 2 blocks south of The Buckhead Theater. His area is CRAWLING with young families. They are much more common than they were when I lived in the area in the late 1980s. That is not even mentioning the Highlands and mid-town. All urban areas experienced an exodus of families in the 70s and 80s. Atlanta is experiencing a 20+ year reversal of that trend...lots of young families in Atlanta.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:57 pm to Hback
It's pretty simple - anything inside the maroon line is either very nice or nice (with some small exceptions). Everything south of it (with the exception of Old 4th and maybe Kirkwood/Edgewood/East Lake depending on your taste) is either redeveloping, a ghost town at night or not great.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2 kids in DeKalb County Public Schools and a 3rd who will enter them in the next 18 months
This is child abuse.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Downtown just hasn't redeveloped the way they've tried to make it happen for 10 years. They've built neat new museums, added the dumb streetcar, re-done some old hotels, built some new hotels, expanded Georgia State, etc etc...........but nobody wants to actually live down there. And until they do, it's just not gonna be anything other than a 9-5 foot traffic zone.
The worst thing to happen to downtown was the emergence of Midtown after the 1996 Olympics. Most companies/businesses have either left or are in the process of leaving Downtown for either Midtown, Buckhead, or Perimeter. Eventually the only 'jobs' left in downtown for college educated people will be city of Atlanta, State, or Federal workers. The private sector has almost totally abandoned it and for good reason. There are much better options in the city core now.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:00 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's kind of crazy that as affluent and nice as Brookhaven is, the schooling AS A WHOLE is abysmal. Cross Keys is the only HS and it sucks, and the elementary/middle options aren't much better. There's 1 elementary that stands above the rest so that's the one I'd guess yall live near especially since you said there's tons of families moving into it still
Kids in most of Brookhaven go to Chamblee MS & HS, though (Ashford Park ES and Montgomery ES - which is for North Brookhaven, up near Murphey Candler/Marist/Perimeter). Only the Buford Hwy corridor goes to Cross Keys (which is why the demographics there are what they are). Montgomery and Ashford Park are both really good ES. John Lewis is new and is right across Dresden from our neighborhood on Skyland, but it's basically the feeder school to Cross Keys now.
However, a whole lot of folks who now live in the city send their kids to private schools for middle/high schools. It was always like that but it really took off during COVID.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:02 pm to ronricks
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The worst thing to happen to downtown was the emergence of Midtown after the 1996 Olympics. Most companies/businesses have either left or are in the process of leaving Downtown for either Midtown, Buckhead, or Perimeter. Eventually the only 'jobs' left in downtown for college educated people will be city of Atlanta, State, or Federal workers. The private sector has almost totally abandoned it and for good reason. There are much better options in the city core now.
Yep. Some parts of downtown have had business and job growth with the Tech stuff and a few of the corporations moving stuff back down there, but even people who want to live in the city itself are moving more to either Midtown or to Old 4th/Ponce/Beltline. Nobody wants to live in downtown proper, and therefore there aren't any grocery stores, bodegas, restaurant/bar scene there because nobody is down there at night.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:03 pm to deeprig9
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This is child abuse.
Kids from Chamblee do just fine.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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2) YOu can easily google dozens of articles about these same bottle kids that have literally shot people for refusing to buy water. No that is not hyperbole. Some of the less entrepreneurial among them have gotten into arguments when people refuse to buy the water and will escalate to actual violence
Jumping christ in a handbasket. There is one story of one teen shooting a gun 4 times in College Park who may or may not have been involved in selling water and one story of one of the kids selling water getting shot. There are not DOZENS of such shootings because there has never been one. This is the irrational fear present in so many people in the US. It simply does not and has not happened. Is it aggravating for a kid to ask if you want to but a bottle of water? I guess, if you are an a-hole...but if you are not simply tell them no....
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Ashford is the one I was thinking of. Ididn't realize they fed to chamblee, I just assumed they all fed to Cross Keys or people sent them private.
If you're near Skyland you're not far at all from where we used to live. I remember when all that stuff in teh "skyland" area (west of Clairmont) was being built, and when they tore down the old dilapitated skyland park (inherited from Dekalb county in 2013) across from some government office and started building the new park and JL elementary. I bet that area is really nice now.
If you're near Skyland you're not far at all from where we used to live. I remember when all that stuff in teh "skyland" area (west of Clairmont) was being built, and when they tore down the old dilapitated skyland park (inherited from Dekalb county in 2013) across from some government office and started building the new park and JL elementary. I bet that area is really nice now.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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look at this idiot trying to downplay 4 killings at A MALL in 6 months based on a percentage of overall shoppers metric lol
Yes, my friend, because the discussion is about risk and irrational fears. Have there been any murders around Lenox Mall? Yes. Is the area significantly more risky due to those murders? Not even remotely so. The number of people killed as a ratio to the number of people present represents the risk, not the fact that someone was killed. If one suffers from irrational fears then any murder is scary...if one is logical the risk factor is important.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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If you're near Skyland you're not far at all from where we used to live. I remember when all that stuff in teh "skyland" area (west of Clairmont) was being built, and when they tore down the old dilapitated skyland park (inherited from Dekalb county in 2013) across from some government office and started building the new park and JL elementary. I bet that area is really nice now.
Yep, we're in AP. I remember that government office as well. The area of Skyland between Dresden and Buford Hwy has turned into JLES, a huge park, 5-6 new expensive houses and a giant townhouse project that is completely sold out now that backs up to Dresden. They are also nearly done with another mixed use complex right next to the stuff on Dresden near MARTA (Kalidiscope, Verde, etc) that is going to be basically exactly like it. And building a new massive City Hall in the MARTA parking lot on the corner of Peachtree/North Druid (and built a Fox Bros and CFA across the street from it). It's pretty nuts.
Every day there's a new older house getting knocked down and some $1.4M house going up around us. It's wild and I am perpetually wondering what the hell all these people do
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Nobody wants to live in downtown proper, and therefore there aren't any grocery stores, bodegas, restaurant/bar scene there because nobody is down there at night.
I had an APD officer tell me they are actually fine with the current arraignments all the homeless vagrants who used to congregate and cluster in and around the Ponce Corridor and in Midtown have almost all moved to Downtown around Woodruff Park. He said it has greatly benefited midtown and made it much safer and cleaner and with them all mostly confined in that one area it makes it easier to 'manage' them but boy have they trashed the hell out of that area. Its disgusting.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:08 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Is it aggravating for a kid to ask if you want to but a bottle of water? I guess, if you are an a-hole...but if you are not simply tell them no....
Do you live in augusta? I'm not sure why you continue to be the arbiter or what does or doesn't feel like harassment, when the other guy literally deals with that specific location in question every day. If he thinks it's harassing how are you going to tell him it's not?
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:09 pm to ronricks
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Much more to see and do in Midtown, West Midtown, Eastside Beltline, or even Buckhead.
This guy knows. Downtown sucks. Tourist traps and office buildings.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:10 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Is the area significantly more risky due to those murders? Not even remotely so
do you know what these words mean, when put together in that manner? It's literally the opposite of what you're saying. Lenox mall most certainly IS (or was, in the time period being referenced) more risky than not going to there. If your options are stay at home and order somethign on amazon or go to lenox mall, it IS SIGNIFICANTLY more risky to go to the murder mall.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:10 pm to ronricks
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The worst thing to happen to downtown was the emergence of Midtown after the 1996 Olympics. Most companies/businesses have either left or are in the process of leaving Downtown for either Midtown, Buckhead, or Perimeter. Eventually the only 'jobs' left in downtown for college educated people will be city of Atlanta, State, or Federal workers. The private sector has almost totally abandoned it and for good reason. There are much better options in the city core now.
Downtown Atlanta has been a ghost town after 6 PM since the 1980s at least. The exception is the area between five points and the Vine City Station when there is an event going on...and there is almost always an event going on. I worked in the Trust Company Bank Building from 9 PM to 5 AM one summer and I had to go to midtown to get "lunch" because the only restaurant in walking distance of little 5 points was a Burger King that closed at 7 PM.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:12 pm to ronricks
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I had an APD officer tell me they are actually fine with the current arraignments all the homeless vagrants who used to congregate and cluster in and around the Ponce Corridor and in Midtown have almost all moved to Downtown around Woodruff Park. He said it has greatly benefited midtown and made it much safer and cleaner and with them all mostly confined in that one area it makes it easier to 'manage' them but boy have they trashed the hell out of that area. Its disgusting.
Yea it's really bad. And because they've built up the old Turner Field area so much with Georgia State housing, Publix, the basketball arena, etc........there isn't really anywhere for those folks to go to the South. So they are just stuck in that zone and Woodruff is ground zero for it all.
I remember having a client 10 years ago or so on Ponce about 2 blocks east of what is now Ponce City Market. It was a non-profit in an older house next to a sketchy motel. The Executive Director pulled me into his office one day and pointed out all these regular occurrences of people coming and going from certain rooms.......because it was a crack house. And the APD knew about it, but because they were all in one place they were fine with it, because busting it up was just like "turning on a light and letting the cockroaches scatter". Now all of that is just in Woodruff.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:13 pm to ronricks
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d an APD officer tell me they are actually fine with the current arraignments all the homeless vagrants who used to congregate and cluster in and around the Ponce Corridor and in Midtown have almost all moved to Downtown around Woodruff Park
I travel that area a few days/week. All the graffiti and trash from the homeless is disgusting! It used to not be that way but graffiti has gotten out of hand. It’s ugly, period! Where I live north of Atlanta, we don’t have ANY of those eye sores or crimes.
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