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re: Any Dawgs & Tide fans actually going to the SECCG in Atlanta?
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The 50 acre Centennial Yards Development (the gulch area) will transform the area over the next decade. It recently began in the hole right next to MBS with phase 1. A new hotel and apartment tower is underway. People visiting this Saturday will see the tower cranes. CIM out of California is the construction manager and the master plan for the development is exciting.
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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Do you live in augusta? I'm not sure why you continue to be the arbiter or what does or doesn't feel like harassment, when the other guy literally deals with that specific location in question every day. If he thinks it's harassing how are you going to tell him it's not?
I do not live in Augusta but I do live in the Augusta area. I also spend a LOT of time in Atlanta. I was born and raised in Atlanta and lived ITP for the first 35 years of my life. I can't possibly tell you what FEELS like harassment to you my friend, no matter where I live nor where you live. What I can suggest is that a rational person who is not saddled with irrational fears or some other issue would not feel harassed in that situation. I have never felt harassed by it. There are literally tens of thousands of people exposed to it every day and you seldom hear any of them saying the felt harassed...most simply feel annoyed because it might cause some congestion. If you are saying the little bastards can back up traffic you would be spot on...but harassed???? They are kids. How they gonna harass an adult, especially one in a car???
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:19 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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The 50 acre Centennial Yards Development (the gulch area) will transform the area over the next decade. It recently began in the hole right next to MBS with phase 1. A new hotel and apartment tower is underway. People visiting this Saturday will see the tower cranes. CIM out of California is the construction manager and the master plan for the development is exciting.
I'm hoping it will at least transform the Westside of Downtown with the Museums and State Farm/Benz. That area definitely has the most to currently offer and the Gulch project looks to be something that should make it more all encompassing.
BUT UNTIL THEN, MARGARITAVILLE!
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:19 pm to WG_Dawg
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do you know what these words mean, when put together in that manner? It's literally the opposite of what you're saying. Lenox mall most certainly IS (or was, in the time period being referenced) more risky than not going to there. If your options are stay at home and order somethign on amazon or go to lenox mall, it IS SIGNIFICANTLY more risky to go to the murder mall.
No doubt, order shite from Amazon is less risky than going to walmart in Dublin. A shite is safest when it is moored to a que inside a harbor. That is not what a ship is built for. If you suffer from irrational fears which lead you to order shite from amazon because 6 people out of millions have been murdered near a shopping mall you are pitiful. If you order shite from Amazon because it is more convenient I feel you...but because you are scared of the mall??? That is truly pitiful...
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:21 pm to AwgustaDawg
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I can't possibly tell you what FEELS like harassment to you my friend, no matter where I live nor where you live. What I can suggest is that a rational person who is not saddled with irrational fears or some other issue would not feel harassed in that situation. I have never felt harassed by it.
and hey, that's cool. You're right different people experience things differently. All I'm saying is...SOG specifcially used that phrase and he actually lives there. Granted he may have used it colloquially, not literally that they are harrasing the shite out of him. He may have just meant "bothering" or "annoying" , I dont' know. I just thought it was a bit strange that you woudl claim he's wrong when you aren't really in a postition to do so, wiht the roles being as they are.
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There are literally tens of thousands of people exposed to it every day and you seldom hear any of them saying the felt harassed...
that is true. But thousands of those people don't post on this board in this thread. One of them does though.
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They are kids. How they gonna harass an adult, especially one in a car???
well some of them (not all of course, but some) are not your average kid lol. The fact that they're under 18 doesn't preclue them from being aggressive and harassing.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I remember having a client 10 years ago or so on Ponce about 2 blocks east of what is now Ponce City Market. It was a non-profit in an older house next to a sketchy motel. The Executive Director pulled me into his office one day and pointed out all these regular occurrences of people coming and going from certain rooms.......because it was a crack house. And the APD knew about it, but because they were all in one place they were fine with it, because busting it up was just like "turning on a light and letting the cockroaches scatter". Now all of that is just in Woodruff.
It was the Ponce Hotel right by the old Cactus Car Wash near corner of Glen Iris and Ponce. That place was a shithole. It has been torn down and replaced by a boutique hotel. That whole area is unrecognizable from when I moved there in 2004. We had nicknames for all the homeless and crack heads that used to roam around Ponce at all hours of the day and night. That area is Mayberry now to what it used to be. Nothing but condos/apartments/townhomes/ restaurants/retail etc.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:24 pm to AwgustaDawg
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If you suffer from irrational fears which lead you to order shite from amazon because 6 people out of millions have been murdered near a shopping mall you are pitiful. If you order shite from Amazon because it is more convenient I feel you...but because you are scared of the mall??? That is truly pitiful...
I guess I don't understand why you are so hung up on percentages as it relates to people being killed in a public space where killings are not to be expected.
If only 100 people went to the mall and 6 were killed that'd be a major issue for you, but if 100,000 people went to the mall it's no biggie? The big picture here is 6 people were killed at the mall.
and waht you conveniently ignore is the type of people that go go that mall and the kidn of people pulling out their piece doing the shooting. It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 100K people at the mall, those shootings happened by a particular kind of person and that particualr kind of person is going ot be at the mall every day.
Call me crazy, but I don't think wondering "hmmm, there's been a half dozen murders at Lenox the last 6 months. Maybe I should do my shopping elsewhere" is the least bit pitiful. At all.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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well some of them (not all of course, but some) are not your average kid lol. The fact that they're under 18 doesn't preclue them from being aggressive and harassing.
You are 100% correct...and in fact there is some evidence that at least some of them are being forced into selling water by older kids and adults who take all the money. If so there is no doubt some of those people are probably dangerous. The kids themselves are merely annoying. It is incredibly unsafe as well...I have seen them pushing one another into traffic they are so thick. The thought of running a kid down in the street is troubling for anyone who ain't sick....but being fearful of the kid is not rational.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:26 pm to AwgustaDawg
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but being fearful of the kid is not rational.
SOG never said he was in fear to my knowledge
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:29 pm to WG_Dawg
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I guess I don't understand why you are so hung up on percentages as it relates to people being killed in a public space where killings are not to be expected.
If only 100 people went to the mall and 6 were killed that'd be a major issue for you, but if 100,000 people went to the mall it's no biggie? The big picture here is 6 people were killed at the mall.
and waht you conveniently ignore is the type of people that go go that mall and the kidn of people pulling out their piece doing the shooting. It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 100K people at the mall, those shootings happened by a particular kind of person and that particualr kind of person is going ot be at the mall every day.
Call me crazy, but I don't think wondering "hmmm, there's been a half dozen murders at Lenox the last 6 months. Maybe I should do my shopping elsewhere" is the least bit pitiful. At all.
No my friend, if 10 million people go to a mall and one is murdered it is an issue for me. It would not keep me from going to that mall if I had a compelling reason to do so.
If 10 people go into a mall and 10 are murdered I am not going to be #11. There is no compelling reason I can think of to do so. If my Daughter is in that mall I have to assume she is either dead or a murderer...either way my going in is not going to help the situation.
If, however, a million go into that mall and 6 are murdered and I have a compelling reason to go into that mall I am not going to not do so because 6 people were murdered there because logically I am going to be pretty safe from being murdered at that mall. Could it happen? Absolutely. Is it likely? Not at all.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:36 pm to ronricks
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It was the Ponce Hotel right by the old Cactus Car Wash near corner of Glen Iris and Ponce
Yes!
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:37 pm to WG_Dawg
Yea I wasn't "scared", but I certainly kept my mental antenna up. Didn't really bother me too much, but I knew the whole deal with the kids, the water and their handlers and the whole situation sucked all around.
Not really much else past that.
Not really much else past that.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:39 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Uh, Atlanta is a dangerous shithole. I wasn't aware there was even a debate about this.
How is this different than any other major SEC city?
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:40 pm to AwgustaDawg
what you're saying does make some sense but I think is missing the larger point that I mentioned earlier.
I would not expect to see a grown man barking when I'm in my local publix. It woudl be shocking and honestly a bit confusing. If I were to see the same grown man barking in sanford stadium it would not be confusing in the slightest. Setting and context matters.
Lenox is largely inhabited by young urban peopel taht aren't actually rich enough for phipps. It's for people that want to flex on social media and be seen. It also, apparently, attracts the type of person that feels they need a gun to go shopping. Your odds of someone being disrespected and wanting to pop off are much higher in that setting than they would be elsewhere, even at a differnet mall.
I used to go to Norhtlake mall off Briarcliff jsut for conveneience and wouldn't ever think twice abotu it. If not there I'd go to permieter mall because it's nicer and has more stuff and again, never thoguht twice. Northlake and permiter simploy have a differnet kind of shopper than lenox does. To say one is more dangerous than the others is simply fact and I don't think it's pitiful to recognize that.
I would not expect to see a grown man barking when I'm in my local publix. It woudl be shocking and honestly a bit confusing. If I were to see the same grown man barking in sanford stadium it would not be confusing in the slightest. Setting and context matters.
Lenox is largely inhabited by young urban peopel taht aren't actually rich enough for phipps. It's for people that want to flex on social media and be seen. It also, apparently, attracts the type of person that feels they need a gun to go shopping. Your odds of someone being disrespected and wanting to pop off are much higher in that setting than they would be elsewhere, even at a differnet mall.
I used to go to Norhtlake mall off Briarcliff jsut for conveneience and wouldn't ever think twice abotu it. If not there I'd go to permieter mall because it's nicer and has more stuff and again, never thoguht twice. Northlake and permiter simploy have a differnet kind of shopper than lenox does. To say one is more dangerous than the others is simply fact and I don't think it's pitiful to recognize that.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:40 pm to AwgustaDawg
I hope you dawg fans are still at each other's throats on Saturday. Sarcasm.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:43 pm to WG_Dawg
Brookhaven seems to be considered one of the great areas of Atlanta, ITP, in this thread, from what I've read.
So I look up statistics.
I compare to my closest town of Grayson GA.
In Brookhaven, the "good" part of ATL:
Violent Crime: 4.43/1000
In Grayson, widely considered to be "going downhill"
Violent Crime: 1.28/1000
So the "good" part of Atlanta ITP has triple the violent crime rate.
Let me look up property crime, BRB...
So I look up statistics.
I compare to my closest town of Grayson GA.
In Brookhaven, the "good" part of ATL:
Violent Crime: 4.43/1000
In Grayson, widely considered to be "going downhill"
Violent Crime: 1.28/1000
So the "good" part of Atlanta ITP has triple the violent crime rate.
Let me look up property crime, BRB...
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:43 pm to StopRobot
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How is this different than any other major SEC city?
Atlanta isn't a perfect city but it is far and away better, safer, and has more going for it economically than Birmingham or New Orleans. I think Birmingham per capita has more murders than even New Orleans now. People are actually moving to the city of Atlanta where Birmingham has been bleeding population for years now.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:47 pm to deeprig9
I wouldn't be caught dead living in grayson these days
It followed the same path as snellville and it's not a good path
It followed the same path as snellville and it's not a good path
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:47 pm to deeprig9
Property Crime:
Brookhaven, the "nice" part of ATL:
26.08/1000
Grayson, the "going downhill fast" suburb:
7.69/1000
So more than 3x more likely to be a victim of a property crime in Brookhaven, the nicer part of ATL, than in a suburb.
Dang....
Brookhaven, the "nice" part of ATL:
26.08/1000
Grayson, the "going downhill fast" suburb:
7.69/1000
So more than 3x more likely to be a victim of a property crime in Brookhaven, the nicer part of ATL, than in a suburb.
Dang....
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:48 pm to deeprig9
Brookhaven is completely safe and I would much rather live there than anywhere in Gwinnett County which seems to be trending towards a third world country with all the illegal immigrants that live there now.
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