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re: And here we go…LSU will require vax proof for entry into Tiger Stadium

Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
Over 18 months, I can literally count on one hand how many times I have heard the mainstream media bring up up the undeniable correlation of negative outcomes with obesity.

Vaccines are great, I would never try to persuade someone not to get it if they felt it was right for them.

The social distancing, masks, plastic shields, etc have done next to nothing. This is proven by the data.

The lack of discussion surrounding obesity as it relates to COVID outcomes is almost criminal. It is, by FAR, the single biggest determining factor. Anyone who denies that should never open their mouth about “the science”, because they don’t give a shite about science or data.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
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Case counts don't mean a damn thing.



Of course they don't. But that's what people go by as justification for the mandates.

They sure as hell aren't going by death rate because that's dramatically lower with delta variant....that's why nobody in the press talks about it.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42589 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
I wonder if you have to bring your actual vaccine card, or if a copy of it will be sufficient?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
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I’m assuming from a health condition? Should they be shoulder to shoulder in a stadium with people who possibly have a contagious virus in the first place?


If they want to, sure.

I don’t make decisions for other adults. It’s weird that others want to no?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
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One, the law has no teeth on enforcement, and two, if there's also the choice of a negative test, it's not a vaccine passport. The AG can stomp and scream on Twitter all he wants, but there are ways around that poorly written law.


It may be poorly written, but the University of Alabama will not deliberately and actively defy that. Zero chance they make all 100,000 people show a negative PCR test, either.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64685 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:51 am to
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why are they not requiring a negative test regardless of vax status?

Is a negative test even proof of anything? You can be contagious for days before you test positive.

Maybe just let people live their lives. If they're willing to go to a college football game with 100k people, they really shouldn't be the ones complaining about possibly contracting COVID at that event. If someone is concerned about that, they probably shouldn't be going and putting themselves in that situation
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:51 am to
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Just about everyone was consulted.


That doesn’t mean much. William Tate is the boss.

Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1233 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:51 am to
The apple flavored ones I give to our horses normally cost $8 and now cost $25 on Amazon. People have lost their minds...
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:51 am to
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has only been "proven" (Imaybe) to limit the severity of the illness in most cases. It hasn't really been effective in limit the spread given the numbers we have now



Nope. It not only limits the severity IF you get it to begin with it also limits the spread

LINK
Posted by SneezyBeltran
Some Mountain in Colorado
Member since Jul 2021
172 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:52 am to
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What about people that can’t be vaccinated? Tough shite?


I mean I guess those people with stage 4 cancer getting chemotherapy could tolerate a nasal swab?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42589 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:53 am to
So at the gate now a person will have to show their ticket (or mobile ticket), get their bag checked if they're carrying one, and show proof of COVID vaccination or negative PCR test? Are we sure every stadium has enough gate people who are willing to do all of that?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14187 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:53 am to
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If by "dropping like flies" you mean miss a couple of days of practice because they're under the weather, yeah, I guess.



I mean, these statistics are the reason for the season. People are contagious and intelligent people are waiting to see the safety side of this before they spend their money. This is NOT about politics.

This is big business trying to assure the public they are proactive about their health at a football game. That is not unlike any other business that is catering to patrons to come and visit. Why make it any more complicated than that?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64685 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:54 am to
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Just about everyone was consulted.

Everyone may have been consulted, but that doesn't mean everyone was on the same page or their opinion even truly mattered. I can assure you this idea was pushed by the President and signed off on by JBE.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:54 am to
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It may be poorly written, but the University of Alabama will not deliberately and actively defy that. Zero chance they make all 100,000 people show a negative PCR test, either.



I'm not going to make any predictions on what they may or may not do, but just pointing out that the state law is easily skirted if the will is there. Whether the will is there is a different story. I tend to agree with you that there isn't, but we'll see.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:54 am to
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Are we sure every stadium has enough gate people who are willing to do all of that?


I doubt it. It will be a shitshow at the gates.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:54 am to
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What about people that can’t be vaccinated? Tough shite?


You mean the tiny fraction of under 1%? Chances are not many of the will be going be going to a game, but if they did, a negative Covid test will suffice.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:55 am to
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I wonder if you have to bring your actual vaccine card, or if a copy of it will be sufficient?


It's just proof of vaccination. A copy/photo will be sufficient. I don't know anyone that walks around with their vaccine card, especially at a event that big.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:56 am to
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I mean I guess those people with stage 4 cancer getting chemotherapy could tolerate a nasal swab?


Yeah, timing a negative PCR test to make sure it’s within 72 hours of kickoff should be a breeze lol
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22702 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:57 am to
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Your phone is already tracking everything genius. You using a landline? Posting on the Rant via carrier pigeon?



I'm a programmer and well aware of what is possible.

It would probably blow your mind if you knew the kind of information facebook has on your(assuming you have an account). They block access to most of it, but an advertiser could in the past target on all kinds of crazy information. Facebook knows if you are about to get divorced, if you are about to move, and all kinds of other shite.

And of course, we all know the NSA with their stuff.

However, there is a big difference between private companies and the government. Especially when it comes to what can be used in a court of law and how easily it can be obtained etc.

Are you also one of those people who thinks "If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to not talk to the police"? Because that is also really dumb.


This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
46617 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:57 am to
Does this mean they’re checking IDs against the Vax card? Or is this just more political posturing that serves zero purpose other than to inconvenience people in the name of sCiEnCe?
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