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re: And here we go…LSU will require vax proof for entry into Tiger Stadium

Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Judah Mann
Houston Area
Member since Aug 2016
2033 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:36 pm to
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Well that would be end of all the bama fans too bad game is away


When Alabama plays LSU the game is never "away". It's at our place wherever it's played.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30880 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Have you not seen the talk from the “covid isn’t real, it’s just the flu!” Crowd? That absolutely dominates the social media and major media outlet commentary by the masses At least here regionally. There’s an unnerving number of people who dispute the whole thing. And it is simply due to their narrow scope of experience. Confirmation bias is the lynchpin of the idiocy of so many tinfoil hat conspiracy theory types that are so vocal. I respectfully am not pointing any fingers at you personally when I say that. Simply suggesting there are indeed many people who do doubt not only the severity, but the existence of a real pandemic at all.



This has been mostly about mortality rates. And what got all this started was the media constantly citing obvious bogus numbers by using only known cases vs deaths. They were talking 5-7% mortality rate. In response people said it was bullshite, that it was closer to the flu which has a 0.1% mortaltiy rate.

The actual mortality rate ended up being around 0.2% overall, but as someone pointed out recently it appears to be higher than that in the US(and likely other places with higher levels of obese and elderly).

So those people pretty much were right. It's still twice as deadly as the flu in it's worse years minimum, but it's a far cry from what the media was claiming when all this fear was driven up.

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I will agree with you on one point. If you have natural immunity, I see no reason to be vaccinated. I support my healthcare system in creating a vaccine requirement. However I disagree that people who can show active antibodies should have to get it. I wouldn’t tell them NOT to. If I caught it naturally I’d likely still get vaccinated after 90 days. But if you have active immunity, it shouldn’t be a requirement to be vaccinated.


That's your choice, but I see no reason even after the 90 days or however long the active antibodies last(which would be longer if we were constantly exposed like we would be with the flu and other covids). My body has fought it off once, it should have an easier time.

These things strengthen my immune system, not make them weaker. If they were something that was making my immune system weaker, then my opinion would be different.

My risk is even lower now than before outside my increase in age over the past year. Our bodies are the result of evolution on a time scale we can't even really comprehend outside just a number, it's capable of handling this.

If your immune system isn't so strong, then the vaccine makes sense.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30880 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Have no idea about the link you are referring to but that seems off about Delta. It was first detected in India in October 2020.

India did not begin to vaccinate the population until January 2021.

LINK /


You can click the name of the person being repliled to in the title of the post you are looking at, and it will take you to the post it is replying to just so you know. Very useful.

Here's the link I was replying to:

Natural vs Vaccine Immunity

Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1291 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:49 pm to
Interesting article, but the expert didn't refute that. Just said it isn't necessarily always true.

"So I think if people are making a blanket statement that natural infection is always better, that's not always correct. It really depends on the virus."

By the way, look at this quote from that article:

"The counter view is that the virus may encode immune antagonists that could alter the immune response in some way that's not as good as, say, a vaccine."

Stating the counter view neither says it has merit or is held by many.
If anything, he showed that we probably had (and have) much better means to tackle a coronavirus than this vaccine.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54754 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:58 pm to
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They won't be the last. Players and coaches are dropping like flies with positive tests so far.

Universities want to play football and have stands filled with fans, not patients.




In the words of a Professor at Oxford, Iceland's Healthcare Leader, and a Nobel Laureate...

quote:

It's not working. We are not going to beat it this way. We must protect the vulnerable the best we can and slowly allow it to run through our population


We are back to 2017 death rates. As in no excess deaths... below that line... Stop the madness.

Michael Levitt
@MLevitt_NP2013
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Aug 19
In line with what have been hearing.

Still disturbing for Israel & world seeking salvation in vaccination.

What next?

With low excess death, time to treat COVID-19 in same way flu treated for decades:

* Treat the sick

* Stop sensational news

* Stop releasing PCR case data



Michael Levitt
@MLevitt_NP2013
Stanford Prof. of Biophysics, Cambridge PhD and DSc, 2013 Chemistry Nobel Laureate (complex systems), FRS & US National Academy member
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54754 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:01 pm to
Yes sir. The truth is it's not as deadly either.
Posted by TigerAte91
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2019
196 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:02 pm to
I never said they kicked them out…

I said they stopped performing surgeries so that they could reserve ICU beds for COVID patients. Which is an absolute fact you fricking bafoon.
Just because people have knowledge on what is actually happening in the world, that you yourself may not have, does not mean they are lying.
Shows a lack of education.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54754 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:04 pm to
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I see no reason even after the 90 days or however long the active antibodies last(which would be longer if we were constantly exposed like we would be with the flu and other covids). My body has fought it off once, it should have an easier time.

These things strengthen my immune system, not make them weaker. If they were something that was making my immune system weaker, then my opinion would be different.



Yep. My sister had her's checked on Thursday. 11 months later.. Antibodies.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54754 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:05 pm to
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I said they stopped performing surgeries so that they could reserve ICU beds for COVID patients. Which is an absolute fact you fricking bafoon.
Just because people have knowledge on what is actually happening in the world, that you yourself may not have, does not mean they are lying.
Shows a lack of education.



A bigger issue is a lack of healthcare workers and that's about to get worse because of Vaccination mandates.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Yep. My sister had her's checked on Thursday. 11 months later.. Antibodies.


I just took an antibodies test, still present.

Had Covid in March

Besides that, it’s not just having active antibodies. Once you’ve had the virus you’re immune system can quickly produce a strong antibody response if infected again
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:57 pm to
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Still disturbing for Israel & world seeking salvation in vaccination.

What next?

With low excess death, time to treat COVID-19 in same way flu treated for decades:

* Treat the sick

* Stop sensational news

* Stop releasing PCR case data



Ding ding ding. There's going to be a variant every year, regardless of how many people are vaccinated.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58501 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:02 pm to
Well that's dumb. It's far more enjoyable to watch games at home. They really don't want people to discover this.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:05 pm to
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Ohio State just required all students be vaccinated.

Penn State does not, but requires frequent testing if not vaccinated.

Not sure how many other schools will change it now that one vaccine is FDA approved.



Here is the complete list as of 20 August, but it actually has been updated as LSU is now listed as requiring COVID-19 vaccine. From Local news sources, students must have 1st shot by 10 September and 2nd shot by 15 October which is around the time LSU goes on Fall Break. Students opting to not take the vaccine must be tested for COVID I think twice a week for the rest of the semester and show negative test.
Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
928 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:08 pm to
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Or negative test lol imagine how the doctors will look on game weeks in Baton Rouge


This is a good point. They'll have to set up several test stations the week of the game, and especially on game day.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30880 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:13 pm to
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I never said they kicked them out…

I said they stopped performing surgeries so that they could reserve ICU beds for COVID patients. Which is an absolute fact you fricking bafoon.
Just because people have knowledge on what is actually happening in the world, that you yourself may not have, does not mean they are lying.
Shows a lack of education.


They stopped performing elective surgeries is more likely. So if they delayed anything it was because it wasn't life threatening to them.

You claimed people were dying because of it.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54754 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:32 pm to
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I just took an antibodies test, still present.

Had Covid in March

Besides that, it’s not just having active antibodies. Once you’ve had the virus you’re immune system can quickly produce a strong antibody response if infected again



Yep.. and you better not mention that study on Melatonin reducing viral loads... Or the fact that we have meds that will block Covid from the ACE2 receptors..

SHHH!!!!!!

Let's not mention Iceland's 'Fauci' is saying the vaccine is not doing what we thought it would. It will never get us to herd immunity and "we are going to protect our most vulnerable the best we can and allow this to run through the rest of the population."

Let's not dare mention the good Professor at Oxford (UK not MS) say the same thing.

Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:37 pm to
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This is a good point. They'll have to set up several test stations the week of the game, and especially on game day.


Rapid test is not acceptable. They want PCR which essentially makes it impossible to acquire one in 72 hours
Posted by TigerAte91
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2019
196 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:13 pm to
They definitely stopped elective surgeries, but my wife works on surgical ICU. They don’t get patients that had elective surgeries.

Unless you’re under the impression that organ transplants are elective ….
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
19393 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:17 pm to
Gilbert back at practice?
Posted by LatinTiger30
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
4794 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:19 pm to
How do they prove they contracted COVID at an LSU game and not in the following days?
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