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re: And here we go…LSU will require vax proof for entry into Tiger Stadium
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:28 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:28 pm to lsufball19
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What misinformation am I spreading? I'm vaccinated. I also was infected in December before the vaccine was available. I just don't believe in forcing people to do it. Just tell me this. There are people who think you should have to be vaccinated to attend a football game. And those same people don't think it's fair for them to maybe not be able to attend the same football game out of fear there will be unvaccinated people at the game. Why can't people just assume thir own risks. If you want to get vaccinated, great. If you don't want to, then that's also your own choice. If you're unvaccinated and get sick, then that's on you. Choices have consequences, just like people who choose to do a litany of other things that could come with adverse consequences. If the overwhelming majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated as the media tells us, then you shouldn't be concerned about whether or not others are vaccinated. It's pretty clear the vaccine isn't really stopping the spread, so what are we really trying to accomplish right now?
Ending the pandemic. Limiting the amount of future mutation. Protecting the more vulnerable population. Throwing a lifeline to the overburdened hospitals, doctors and nurses. Preventing death and serious illness with long-term and/or permanent sequelae.
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:30 pm to JesusQuintana
The stupid part of this is everyone knows alcohol kills germs and everyone in the stadium will be well above the legal limit 16 and up anyways…..
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:31 pm to Mulkey Man
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Throwing a lifeline to the overburdened hospitals
People look at covid in a way too linear perspective and forget this often. On the other hand we need to take a step back and reevaluate how hospitals are run in this country.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:35 pm to Mulkey Man
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Ending the pandemic.
Why do you think the vaccine with questionable effiacy and questionable protection against the spread of COVID is going to end the pandemic?
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Limiting the amount of future mutation
Why do you the aforementioned vaccine is going limit future mutations?
You are aware that countries like Israel with some of the highest % of vaccinated population in the world is, at the same time, having some of the biggest outbreaks right now? How do you explain that?
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The bad news, doctors say, is that half of Israel's seriously ill patients who are currently hospitalized were fully vaccinated at least five months ago.
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Israel's daily average number of infections has nearly doubled in the past two weeks and has increased around tenfold since mid-July, approaching the numbers during Israel's peak in the winter. Deaths increased from five in June to at least 248 so far this month. Health officials say that currently 600 seriously ill patients are hospitalized, and they warn they cannot handle more than 1,000 serious infections at the same time.
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The country jumped out ahead of all other countries on vaccines, and 78% of eligible Israelis over 12 years old are vaccinated.
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Protecting the more vulnerable population.
maybe the more vulnerable population shouldn't be going to gatherings of tens of thousands of people in close quarters.
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Preventing death and serious illness with long-term and/or permanent sequelae.
Like I said, if you're vaccinated and believe the vaccine to be enough to warrant mass gatherings, then why can't it be a personal choice?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:40 pm to lsufball19
We knew from the start that the effectiveness of the vaccine would go down as time passed on. That's why you will be seeing a bigger push for the booster real soon. If people don't get boosters within about 6 months of their original shot (for Pfizer at least), the rates of infection will rise sharply. Israel was ahead of the curve in starting the vaccines, their 6 months were up, and they didn't get the boosters out in time.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:43 pm to Mulkey Man
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We knew from the start that the effectiveness of the vaccine would go down as time passed on. That's why you will be seeing a bigger push for the booster real soon. If people don't get boosters within about 6 months of their original shot (for Pfizer at least), the rates of infection will rise sharply. Israel was ahead of the curve in starting the vaccines, their 6 months were up, and they didn't get the boosters out in time.
the ill effects of viruses go down as mutations happen over time as well. And we didn't always know from the start that the effectiveness of the vaccine would go down as time passed on. In fact, we still don't know how long a person will have antibodies if they contract the virus or how long the vaccine is effective or even how effective it is from the start. The science changes every single day on this thing, yet we're all told to "trust science." When the science is ever-changing, it's kind of difficult to trust it more so than taking a more "wait and see" approach while they continue to learn. This booster shot idea hasn't been around since the beginning. That has only begun to be pushed in the past couple of months when they figured out how many vaccinated people were still getting sick. Hell, at the beginning, everyone thought if you got COVID you couldn't get it again.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:52 pm to lsufball19
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the ill effects of viruses go down as mutations happen over time as well. And we didn't always know from the start that the effectiveness of the vaccine would go down as time passed on. In fact, we still don't know how long a person will have antibodies if they contract the virus or how long the vaccine is effective or even how effective it is from the start. The science changes every single day on this thing, yet we're all told to "trust science." When the science is ever-changing, it's kind of difficult to trust it more so than taking a more "wait and see" approach while they continue to learn. This booster shot idea hasn't been around since the beginning. That has only begun to be pushed in the past couple of months when they figured out how many vaccinated people were still getting sick. Hell, at the beginning, everyone thought if you got COVID you couldn't get it again.
Not true at all. I remember when I got mine I looked up reliable sources. Moderna was projecting a year, Pfizer was projecting 6 months (which is why I chose Moderna). Hell, do a quick Google search and you can find dozens of articles from late winter/early spring of this year to that effect.
Here's one:
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This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:59 pm to Mulkey Man
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Mulkey Man
Meet me at a sonic of your choosing.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:05 pm to JesusQuintana
The vaccine is a complete and total joke
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:05 pm to bigtrain333
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Hopefully people will stay home instead to send a message
That tv in the living room is starting to look better and better. Hopefully this is the response from all sec fans whose schools do this
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:06 pm to rmnldr
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Meet me at a sonic of your choosing.
Will you wear a mask and show proof of vaccination?
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:06 pm to JesusQuintana
There goes their homefield advantage.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:06 pm to texag7
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The vaccine is a complete and total joke
And there's the best argument in this thread for getting vaccinated. This idiot is against it.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:08 pm to Mulkey Man
Pretty sneaky, sis!
I see what you did there. The doctors were surveyed. I remember when a study released saying that 97% of scientists agreed with global warming theory....turned out there was a selective process in who was sent the survey and which answers were counted. This will be the same. Most polling data now is propoganda.
I see what you did there. The doctors were surveyed. I remember when a study released saying that 97% of scientists agreed with global warming theory....turned out there was a selective process in who was sent the survey and which answers were counted. This will be the same. Most polling data now is propoganda.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:10 pm to deputyfife
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Pretty sneaky, sis!
I see what you did there. The doctors were surveyed. I remember when a study released saying that 97% of scientists agreed with global warming theory....turned out there was a selective process in who was sent the survey and which answers were counted. This will be the same. Most polling data now is propoganda.
I hear you. Some polls can be worded toward getting a desired result. Call 10 medical doctors you know or 100 out of the phone book and ask if they are vaccinated. See what you find.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:11 pm to Mulkey Man
Take the hook out of your mouth... but be careful, you apparently have swallowed it so thoroughly it is poking out of your cheek.
Never buy what the government or corporations tell you, or at least not to this extent.
Never buy what the government or corporations tell you, or at least not to this extent.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:13 pm to texag7
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The vaccine is a complete and total joke
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texag7
Well this is one way to get people vaccinated quickly.
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:14 pm to Mulkey Man
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Throwing a lifeline to the overburdened hospitals, doctors and nurses
While I can’t speak for everywhere in the country, I can unquestionably verify this to be the truth in my region. Some people are really proud of their ability to play around on google. Makes them feel real smart. Their experience is entirely different from those who actually see what’s going on first hand
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:16 pm to Mulkey Man
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And there's the best argument in this thread for getting vaccinated. This idiot is against it.
I’m not against it whatsoever. If you want the serum then get it
But don’t try to tell people what to do with their bodies
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:17 pm to aero1126
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Why my brain hurts so much is you somehow think it’s better to have stronger antibodies when the process of getting those antibodies mean you’re much more likely to actually die…
Did you seriously type this with a straight face? Let's assume the poster you responded to is between 20-49 years of age, and assuming a vaccinated person in the same age range had a 100% chance of survival if they contracted covid. The unvaccinated poster hs a 99.98% chance of surviving this virus, so, a .02% greater chance of dying than the vaccinated person. Would you consider this much more like to actually die?
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