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Analytics guru says Mac Jones should stay in college another year
Posted on 2/1/21 at 4:12 am
Posted on 2/1/21 at 4:12 am
Scanning through old tweets of Dave Bartoo's during a spat of insomnia. Came upon these gems:
He also says Ian Book is the only qb at the senior bowl he'd even draft. And he'd do it somewhere in the 3rd or 4th round.
Btw, these are a few of his other predictions from years past. I believe he bases them all on a stat called QB effect, which is basically equivalent to wins above replacement (War), or how many games the qb won in college that his team shouldn't have, based on team talent.
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im taking trask over jones
metrics clear that @MacJones_10 needs to stay at bama another year
He also says Ian Book is the only qb at the senior bowl he'd even draft. And he'd do it somewhere in the 3rd or 4th round.
Btw, these are a few of his other predictions from years past. I believe he bases them all on a stat called QB effect, which is basically equivalent to wins above replacement (War), or how many games the qb won in college that his team shouldn't have, based on team talent.
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Dave Bartoo
@CFBMatrix
· Apr 25, 2018
First round qb grades in order of career #qbeffect
Allen
Jackson
Darnold/Mayfield
Rosen
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Dave Bartoo
@CFBMatrix
May 2, 2017
Draft class r
QB rankings:
Mahomes 0
Trubisky 0 (rare one yr to NFL draft) Dobbs -2
Webb -4
Kaaya -5
Kizer -9 (double whammy from elite crooter)
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Dave Bartoo
@CFBMatrix
· Apr 24, 2019
I'll take Haskins as the best bust odds twitter.com/CFBMatrix/stat
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 4:27 am
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:07 am to Jack Ruby
I agree. Who can dispute a guru?
Devote, Jalen, Najee, Alex and Landon should stay too.
Another year and maybe they could accomplish something.
Devote, Jalen, Najee, Alex and Landon should stay too.
Another year and maybe they could accomplish something.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:06 am to GoT1de
This is a pretty loaded QB class. Next year is looking pretty weak. Jones would have a shot at being top 3 QB next year without TLaw, Fields and Wilson/Lance to deal with.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:49 am to RiseUpATL
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Jones would have a shot at being top 3 QB next year without TLaw, Fields and Wilson/Lance to deal with.
Mac is better than Fields. Whoever takes Fields in the top 10 will be disappointed. He's also better than Wilson and Lance. Mac is going to be penalized because he played with the most talented team. That's unfortunate.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:05 am to Jack Ruby
So this guy thinks Ian Book is better than Mac Jones?
And we're supposed to listen to him?
And we're supposed to listen to him?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:19 am to Jack Ruby
He could stay in college another 3 years and still be a mediocre at best pro prospect.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:23 am to Jack Ruby
Ian Book is fricking terrible
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:27 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
His gf though
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:31 am to texag7
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His gf though
Site goes down for a day and people forget the rules?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
He didnt say he'd take book over mac. He said book over the other senior bowl qbs like mond. Just cuz he says he needs another year ,which I dont agree with ,doesnt mean he wouldnt take him in round 2
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:33 am to Tigerpride18
Thank you for actually reading.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:35 am to Tigerpride18
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He didnt say he'd take book over mac. He said book over the other senior bowl qbs like mond. Just cuz he says he needs another year ,which I dont agree with ,doesnt mean he wouldnt take him in round 2
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He also says Ian Book is the only qb at the senior bowl he'd even draft. And he'd do it somewhere in the 3rd or 4th round.
Regardless of the opinion on Mac Jones saying you’d take Ian Book in the third round is obscene. But according to the OP this guy says he wouldn’t draft Mac Jones
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:57 am to Jack Ruby
In my opinion the only thing holding Mac Jones back, among stuff that is not essential to his core ability, is a relatively low number of starts. A lot of NFL GMs like to see a QB with at least 2 regular seasons (24 starts) but Mac only has 17 starts. I think the fact he was a 4th year Junior alleviates some of those concerns. He doesn't quite have 2 full seasons of starts but he spent 4 years in a program with good quarterback coaching around a couple of other NFL draft picks in the QB room.
Trask and Jones are pretty comparable in my opinion. In college, Trask's slightly bigger frame and weight allowed him to be a decent runner but that will almost be a complete non-factor in the pro game.
Trask and Jones are pretty comparable in my opinion. In college, Trask's slightly bigger frame and weight allowed him to be a decent runner but that will almost be a complete non-factor in the pro game.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:03 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Dude,he didnt say it in what you quoted either.
I doubt he thinks mac isnt worth a 3rd round pick. Its dumb if so. Mac gains nothing from coming back besides maybe the class of qbs not being as strong,but nothing for his stock
I doubt he thinks mac isnt worth a 3rd round pick. Its dumb if so. Mac gains nothing from coming back besides maybe the class of qbs not being as strong,but nothing for his stock
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:04 am to Tigerpride18
Yes, he did. Mac Jones was at the Senior Bowl
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He also says Ian Book is the only qb at the senior bowl he'd even draft.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:05 am to Diego Ricardo
What's to gain by coming back? He was so far along with his schooling and coming in with Tua's class was I'm sure determining factors. Kyler Murray bumped around from TAMU to Oklahoma to playing behind Baker for quite a while. He has that magical season and he was gone. Mac is going to keep surprising people by the looks of things. But at this point the jokes on everyone else.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:08 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I watched and didnt see him. Didnt know he was a senior,didnt know that it's possible to come back if you are in the SENIOR bowl . I guess hes a redshirt
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:10 am to Tigerpride18
How was a junior in the senior bowl
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:12 am to Tigerpride18
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How was a junior in the senior bowl
4th year juniors are generally eligible.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:13 am to tgrmeat
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He could stay in college another 3 years and still be a mediocre at best pro prospect.
And if he doesn't, you will still be a miserable fan boy sitting behind your computer while he is making millions while you go back to your mediocre fast food job.
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