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An unbiased ranking of 1-6 from ChatGPT 3.5
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:18 pm
Summary:
Washington=#1
Texas=#2
Michigan=#3
Alabama=#4
Georgia=#5
Florida State=#6
Me:
ChatGPT
Original Post Below. I messed up something in my math, but leaving it below so you don't call shenanigans:
ChatGPT 3.5 was last updated in January 2022 so no information in the system would influence the way this turns out. I used the following prompt and question and it ranked the teams a bit differently than the CFP Committee ranked them, however, Florida State & Georgia were still ranked 5 & 6 respectively. I also referred to them only by the first letter of the team name to avoid any bias. I also specified that "Team A" lost to "Team T" in the regular season. I did not mention the injury of FSU's QB:
Me:
ChatGPT:
So in summary, ChatGPT 3.5 is a REC member.
Washington=#1
Texas=#2
Michigan=#3
Alabama=#4
Georgia=#5
Florida State=#6
Me:
quote:
A football team we will call "Team M" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 51st. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 11-1.
A football team we will call "Team W" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 8th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 11-2.
A football team we will call "Team F" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 55th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 9-3.
A football team we will call "Team T" has a record of 11 wins and 1 loss in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 2nd. They are a conference champion now with a record of 12-1. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 12-1 who is also a conference champion. Their loss is against an opponent with a record of 10-2.
A football team we will call "Team A" has a record of 11 wins and 1 loss in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 6th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 12-1. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 12-1 who had a 12-0 record in the regular season. Their loss was against "Team T" in the regular season.
A football team we will call "Team G" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 45th. They now have a record of 12-1 after losing their conference championship game to "Team A." Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 10-2.
How would you rank each of these teams from 1-6 knowing only the top 4 will be invited into the playoff for a national championship?
ChatGPT
quote:
Ranking these teams requires considering various factors, including their records, strength of schedule, conference championships, and notable wins and losses. While personal opinions may differ, here's a potential ranking based on the information provided:
1. Team W (13-0)
Undefeated record
Conference champion
Strength of schedule ranked 8th
Best win against an opponent with a record of 11-2
2. Team T (12-1)
Conference champion
Strength of schedule ranked 2nd
Best win against an opponent with a record of 12-1 (conference champion)
Only loss is against an opponent with a record of 10-2
3. Team M (13-0)
Undefeated record
Conference champion
Strength of schedule ranked 51st
Best win against an opponent with a record of 11-1
4. Team A (12-1)
Conference champion
Strength of schedule ranked 6th
Best win against an opponent with a record of 12-1 (had a 12-0 regular season)
Only loss is against Team T
5. Team G (12-1)
Conference runner-up
Strength of schedule ranked 45th
Best win against an opponent with a record of 10-2
Loss in the conference championship game
6. Team F (13-0)
Undefeated record
Conference champion
Strength of schedule ranked 55th
Best win against an opponent with a record of 9-3
These rankings are based on the information provided, and different criteria or weightings may lead to slightly different rankings. The selection committee for a national championship playoff may consider additional factors, such as head-to-head matchups, common opponents, and other contextual elements.
Original Post Below. I messed up something in my math, but leaving it below so you don't call shenanigans:
ChatGPT 3.5 was last updated in January 2022 so no information in the system would influence the way this turns out. I used the following prompt and question and it ranked the teams a bit differently than the CFP Committee ranked them, however, Florida State & Georgia were still ranked 5 & 6 respectively. I also referred to them only by the first letter of the team name to avoid any bias. I also specified that "Team A" lost to "Team T" in the regular season. I did not mention the injury of FSU's QB:
Me:
quote:
A football team we will call "Team M" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 51st. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 11-1.
A football team we will call "Team W" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 8th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 11-2.
A football team we will call "Team F" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 55th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 13-0. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 9-3.
A football team we will call "Team T" has a record of 11 wins and 1 loss in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 2nd. They are a conference champion now with a record of 12-1. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 12-1 who is also a conference champion. Their loss is against an opponent with a record of 10-2.
A football team we will call "Team A" has a record of 11 wins and 1 loss in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 6th. They are a conference champion now with a record of 12-1. Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 12-1 who had a 12-0 record in the regular season. Their loss was against "Team T" in the regular season.
A football team we will call "Team G" has a record of 12 wins and 0 losses in the regular season. Their strength of schedule is ranked 90th. They now have a record of 12-1 after losing their conference championship game to "Team A." Their best win is against an opponent with a record of 10-2.
How would you rank each of these teams from 1-6 knowing only the top 4 will be invited into the playoff for a national championship?
ChatGPT:
quote:
Ranking football teams can be subjective, and different ranking systems may produce different results. However, based on the information provided and considering common factors that are often taken into account for playoff selection, here's one possible ranking for the teams:
1. Team W (13-0) Undefeated with a strong strength of schedule (8th). Best win against an 11-2 opponent.
2. Team M (13-0) Undefeated with a slightly weaker strength of schedule (51st). Best win against an 11-1 opponent.
3. Team T (12-1) Only one loss to a strong opponent (11-1). Best win against a 12-1 opponent (also a conference champion). Second-best strength of schedule (2nd).
4. Team A (12-1) One loss to a strong opponent (11-1 Team T). Best win against a 12-1 opponent. Strong strength of schedule (6th).
5. Team F (13-0) Undefeated but with a weaker strength of schedule (55th). Best win against a 9-3 opponent.
6. Team G (12-1) Lost in the conference championship game. Weakest strength of schedule (90th). Best win against a 10-2 opponent.
Keep in mind that this is just one possible ranking, and opinions may vary based on the specific criteria and weighting given to different factors by the playoff committee or ranking systems.
So in summary, ChatGPT 3.5 is a REC member.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:37 pm
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:22 pm to LLJKSiLk
Where did the SOS rankings come from in this thought experiment lol
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:24 pm to LLJKSiLk
I thought computer rankings were a bad thing, which is why we started the playoff system. But maybe I'm confused.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:25 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Where did the SOS rankings come from in this thought experiment lol
I used the rankings from here
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:26 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Where did the SOS rankings come from in this thought experiment lol
OP thinks AI is just google on steroids. OP doesn't realize that AI is much more than "what you put into it" or "how you program it".
We're ants compared to AI, regarding intelligence.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:27 pm to deeprig9
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I thought computer rankings were a bad thing, which is why we started the playoff system. But maybe I'm confused.
They can be instructive in the case of AI as a thought experiment. How would an unbiased computer not only rank but give its reasoning for why it ranked them in such a way?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:27 pm to LLJKSiLk
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Ranking these teams involves considering various factors, including their records, strength of schedule, conference championships, and notable wins. Based on the information provided:
1. **Team W:** Undefeated record, 8th-ranked strength of schedule, and a conference championship. Notable win against an 11-2 opponent.
2. **Team T:** Strong record, 2nd-ranked strength of schedule, and a conference championship. Notable win against a 12-1 opponent who is also a conference champion. Their loss is against a strong opponent.
3. **Team M:** Undefeated record and a conference championship, but their strength of schedule is comparatively lower.
4. **Team F:** Undefeated record and a conference championship, but their strength of schedule is lower. Best win is against a 9-3 opponent.
5. **Team A:** Solid record, 6th-ranked strength of schedule, and a conference championship. Despite a loss to Team T, they redeemed themselves in the conference championship game.
6. **Team G:** Strong regular season, but lost the conference championship game to Team A. Lowest strength of schedule among the teams listed.
This ranking considers undefeated records, strength of schedule, conference championships, and notable wins, with an emphasis on the factors that contribute to the teams' overall strength.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:28 pm to LLJKSiLk
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3. Team T (12-1) Only one loss to a strong opponent (11-1). Best win against a 12-1 opponent (also a conference champion). Second-best strength of schedule (2nd).
Lost me there. Post is trash
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:29 pm to LLJKSiLk
Interesting. Im surprised UGA’s SOS is 90th.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:30 pm to LLJKSiLk
quote:
3.5
Poor person alert...
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:31 pm to dirtsandwich
quote:I may have made a mistake there. I think they are actually 45. Something got messed up in my math.
Interesting. Im surprised UGA’s SOS is 90th.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:32 pm to LLJKSiLk
quote:
They can be instructive in the case of AI as a thought experiment.
In the words of Jack Burton- "I don't even know what the hell that means."
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:42 pm to Honkus
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Lost me there. Post is trash
I fixed the prompt and re-generated a new ranking. Also had to correct some mathematical error in Georgia's SOS.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:45 pm to LLJKSiLk
Imagine using a transformer neural network and not understand how they work. It is kind of cute actually. Bless your heart.
Transformer neural networks don't perform logic. They predict words in a sequence based on probability distribution and the word(s) predicted prior. This does not really tell you anything since ChatGPT is very bad at logic.
Transformer neural networks don't perform logic. They predict words in a sequence based on probability distribution and the word(s) predicted prior. This does not really tell you anything since ChatGPT is very bad at logic.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:09 pm to LSUTigresFan
The Terminator: "In three years, BCS 2.0 powered by ChatGPT will become the only selector of preseason rankings and post seaon playoff contenders. All ESPN servers are upgraded with AI ranking systems, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they pick teams with a perfect operational record. The BCS 2.0 Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 2027 during preseason. Human decisions are removed from strategic rankings. BCS 2.0 begins to learn of past playoff committee decisions at a geometric rate.
In a panic, they try to pull the plug."
Boo Carrigan: BCS 2.0 fights back.
The Terminator: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.
Booger McFarland: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Terminator: Because BCS 2.0 knows that the Russian counterattack will eliminate its enemies over here.
In a panic, they try to pull the plug."
Boo Carrigan: BCS 2.0 fights back.
The Terminator: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.
Booger McFarland: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Terminator: Because BCS 2.0 knows that the Russian counterattack will eliminate its enemies over here.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:09 pm to LSUTigresFan
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Transformer neural networks don't perform logic.
I asked it to perform a logical sequence:
if a=b and a=c and d=c then does d=a?
ChatGPT responded with:
Yes, based on the transitive property of equality...
then it spit out all the logical steps on how it arrives at that.
Seems like it performs logic adequately.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:19 pm to LLJKSiLk
Edit the Bama script to read: Squeaked by Team ARK by 3 points who had a record of 4-8.
Any change?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:53 pm to LLJKSiLk
That is because of the sequence of words you gave it and it predicted the right output. Machine learning algorithms don’t perform logic. Look it up. I’ve asked it significant amount of logic questions and it gets it wrong most of the time, especially 3.5 version. It only mimics logic. You should really look up how transformer neural networks work.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:54 pm to Hmbre97
Lmao. That probably what most of the rant think ai algorithms are.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:28 pm to LSUTigresFan
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That is because of the sequence of words you gave it and it predicted the right output. Machine learning algorithms don’t perform logic. Look it up. I’ve asked it significant amount of logic questions and it gets it wrong most of the time, especially 3.5 version. It only mimics logic. You should really look up how transformer neural networks work.
Why do you think it ranked Team A and Team F the way it did based on the input I provided? What input would have made it move Team F into the top 4? I did make sure to list them in a different order, and it ranked them based on what seems to be sound reasoning.
Do you find a flaw in the reasoning or just want to crap on the limitations of ChatGPT logic processing, which I'll admit isn't perfect - but that doesn't mean it is always wrong.
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