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Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:27 pm to BurnsideStyle
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Vandy
Pick a year.
Let's say 2004 and take a peak at some teams the final top25
#4 Utah
#7 Louisville
#8 Iowa
#9 Cal
#10 VT
#12 Boise St
#18 Texas Tech
#21 Boston College
#22 Fresno St
#23 Virginia
#24 Navy
#25 Pitt
And if you want Vandy specifically, they finished ranked under Franklin in 2012, and 2013. Going 9-4 in both seasons, something Vandy has yet to match in recent years.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:33 pm to MtVernon
Well ...what I read in an article was Texas was paying walk on offensive lineman 50k a year if they made the team, now that not some kid that just tried out ...that was for someone they thought could possibly develop
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:05 pm to Hugh McElroy
It’s made it tougher for you Aggies to lose the usual 4 games.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:18 pm to 3down10
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Lowering the standards so you can feel included doesn't mean improvement.
It’s an improvement for those of us outside the 10 programs that had a chance to be taken seriously by the committee every year.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:20 pm to BurnsideStyle
Its not just parity due to NIL. Its parity due to the greatest coach of all time retiring.
Saban literally made other teams just not give a frick.
The pirate said his team was scared of the A on the jerseys.
Note Dame was defeated in the tunnel.
Saban literally made other teams just not give a frick.
The pirate said his team was scared of the A on the jerseys.
Note Dame was defeated in the tunnel.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:56 pm to Hugh McElroy
I prefer mudholing everyone on the schedule to exciting games, but to each their own.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:21 pm to cardboardboxer
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It’s an improvement for those of us outside the 10 programs that had a chance to be taken seriously by the committee every year.
If it was the BCS or 4 team playoff Texas A&M would still be in it this year and it would be more meaningful.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:33 pm to Faurot fodder
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61% of conference games have been 1 score.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:19 am to 3down10
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If it was the BCS or 4 team playoff Texas A&M would still be in it this year and it would be more meaningful.
Maybe, we got fricked in 2020 because we weren't a big enough brand name.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:25 am to cardboardboxer
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Maybe, we got fricked in 2020 because we weren't a big enough brand name.
Or because you got blown out by Alabama and didn't really have a team capable of winning it.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:33 am to 3down10
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The fact that we went from it being beneficial to be in a strong conference like the SEC to where it's now a benefit to be in a weak conferenc
The Big 12 is going to get 1 or 2 teams in.... I don't think this is accurate at all.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:34 am to Alumn11
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The Big 12 is going to get 1 or 2 teams in.... I don't think this is accurate at all.
That's proof of what I said.
None of those teams should be getting in, much less have an AQ spot.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:42 am to 3down10
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Or because you got blown out by Alabama and didn't really have a team capable of winning it.
I mean Notre Dame got its wheels beat off by Clemson and they got in over us. Our game with Bama was closer by the stats of the game, like if you look at total yards in both games.
The bottom line is if we had Notre Dame's program reputation and they had ours we would have gotten in over them. That is the exact kind of bullshite the current system ended.
Each year should be its own thing, it shouldn't matter what your program did previous years to help tip the scale.
Another example would be how in the old system Group of Five teams had to be good for YEARS to get considered for the playoffs. Cincinnati had to be good for YEARS to crack that glass ceiling like they did. Along the way deserving programs like 2017 UCF got fricked because they only had one amazing year. Now that couldn't happen anymore.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:48 am to Hugh McElroy
Agreed. Parity is good for the sport in my opinion
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:13 pm to cardboardboxer
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I mean Notre Dame got its wheels beat off by Clemson and they got in over us. Our game with Bama was closer by the stats of the game, like if you look at total yards in both games.
The bottom line is if we had Notre Dame's program reputation and they had ours we would have gotten in over them. That is the exact kind of bullshite the current system ended.
Each year should be its own thing, it shouldn't matter what your program did previous years to help tip the scale.
Another example would be how in the old system Group of Five teams had to be good for YEARS to get considered for the playoffs. Cincinnati had to be good for YEARS to crack that glass ceiling like they did. Along the way deserving programs like 2017 UCF got fricked because they only had one amazing year. Now that couldn't happen anymore.
The bottom line is you had your chance and lost. You only scored 24 points total and lost by 28. You weren't going to win a National Championship that year, you weren't good enough.
All you're asking for is a participation trophy. You can't remotely make the case you were the best team in the country.
None of those G5 teams you list were good.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:43 pm to 3down10
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The bottom line is you had your chance and lost. You only scored 24 points total and lost by 28. You weren't going to win a National Championship that year, you weren't good enough.
Yall lost to LSU and got a rematch for the 2012 title. By your logic yall weren't good enough that year for that title or that rematch, you just got lucky regarding a plane crash. End result is what is on the books is a Bama national title despite yall not being good enough, despite yall "having your chance and lost" thanks to luck.
Why should the national title be left to luck like that?
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None of those G5 teams you list were good.
Maybe 2017 UCF was we don't know they didn't get a chance. They did everything they could on the field to deserve that chance unlike Bama the year they got a rematch in the BCS game.
How can you justify a system that leaves programs out that do everything they can to win and it isn't good enough, and yet other programs get a mulligan thanks to luck?
In the current era 2017 UCF would have had a chance. TCU in 2010 would have gotten a chance. Auburn in 2004 would have gotten a chance.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:58 pm to cardboardboxer
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Yall lost to LSU and got a rematch for the 2012 title. By your logic yall weren't good enough that year for that title or that rematch, you just got lucky regarding a plane crash. End result is what is on the books is a Bama national title despite yall not being good enough, despite yall "having your chance and lost" thanks to luck.
Why should the national title be left to luck like that?
I think you mean 2011, and the only reason Alabama got that shot is because other teams lost.
Furthermore, Alabama didn't get blown out by 28 points either. The main reason Alabama lost to LSU that year is our FG went like 1-5 or some shite. It was a 3 point loss in OT while Alabama and LSU were both putting up 40+ points on everyone else while giving up less than 2 TDs in most games. 3 shut outs that year. LSU had similar numbers, and the 2 teams were quite clearly a step above the rest of college football.
Despite those facts, if Oklahoma St didn't lose to Iowa St, Alabama is staying at home that year, and there wouldn't have been anything unfair about it.
In 2020, it's true that both Notre Dame and Clemson had 1 loss. What you are ignoring is that they both lost to each other. And Ohio St was undefeated even if only 6 games.
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Maybe 2017 UCF was we don't know they didn't get a chance. They did everything they could on the field to deserve that chance unlike Bama the year they got a rematch in the BCS game.
We do know, we watched them play an entire season. They played like 2 ranked teams in the season, both of them in the 20s. They barely won them. In reality, UCF was probably a team that should have been ranked between 10th and 15th.
Even adding the Auburn game, which was by far their toughest opponent of the year in the bowl game, there SoS was only in the 60s. Before then, it was in the 100's.
You wanting to ignore games and stats from the season while cherry picking others doesn't mean "we don't know".
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:02 pm to cardboardboxer
Alabama fans are still hanging on to 2020 like a security blanket. They won a title against a team who played five games lol. And whose dumbass AD and coaches wouldn’t allow 12 players to participate due to positive covid tests. Alabama was still the best team but to say they are one of the best all time is a huge leap in logic. The schedules were too disorganized and non-uniform
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:03 pm to 3down10
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And now people in the future will never understand the thrill of a season where every game mattered.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 1:04 pm
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