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Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:40 pm to
According to ON3, there are currently only 9 five star recruits in the entire class. Of those, only 3 are currently committed. So your gotcha isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

Recruiting rankings will change some once the season starts, recruiting rankings are not static. I am guessing there will be a few more 5 stars added. And one or two might slip to 4 stars. And those three that are currently committed may stay committed to their current schools. Or they could decommit like a couple of the other 5 stars have already done. Or they could just flip to another team. But you would know all of this if you knew anything about recruiting.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Husky Harsin is fricked.


“Homerun hire” hasn’t coached a game and isn’t recruiting anywhere close to what Saban was. Those are facts. Maybe it turns out that Bama stays on top, but I think it’s more likely the program slides down a notch or two. Time will tell. In the meantime, it’s hilarious seeing you insecure bitches creating new threads on this board every time Bama gets a commitment.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 6:54 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
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In the meantime, it’s hilarious seeing you insecure bitches creating new threads on this board every time Bama gets a commitment


This thread was started by a LSU fan.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:02 pm to
Oh. Okay. THIS thread.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:00 pm to
I said Keelon was going to be a 5 star. Well on his way.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:13 pm to
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LSU Patrick

You seem to be a frequent presence in threads about Kalen DeBoer and/or Alabama recruiting.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Part of Bama's ranking is volume. They have 17 commits (or perhaps 18 as they got another today I think).

We have 17 and one of those is a kicker

Bamas per recruit average right now for class of 2025 is better than all of the top 10 classes last year except for Georgia's and Bama's class last year per the 247 composite, which is still the best overall ranking. It's gonna go up too, several of the guys we got in on are rocketing up the rankings such is Russell, who just won the elite 11 and is a lock to be a 5 star before all is said and done, as well as that OT we pulled out of California. That guy is going to be a high 4 star or 5 star. Plus we are in it for several other elite players. Bama will end up with 2-4 five stars and a top 5 class like always. What a really weird thread this is. Every team with the super high per recruit averages in June will dilute those as they take more players. A 92.83 average with 18 commits (one a kicker with no stars) is a great class already. People are just butthurt because they thought Bama recruiting was going to fall off a cliff and it's not happening
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:37 pm to
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and isn’t recruiting anywhere close to what Saban was. Those are facts.


That is not a fact, sorry.

Can he sustain it? Who knows. But currently, 9 of our commitments rank inside the Top 100 on at least one service. That’s more than LSU, whose class is shaping up to be one of the best in your program’s history.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:45 pm to
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That’s more than LSU, whose class is shaping up to be one of the best in your program’s history.
in June. They've already dropped one of their 5 stars
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:40 pm to
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We have 17 and one of those is a kicker


The kicker isn't included in the average player rating by 247's composite because he is unranked. Their average ranking is of the 16 ranked players.

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Bamas per recruit average right now for class of 2025 is better than all of the top 10 classes last year except for Georgia's and Bama's class last year per the 247 composite, which is still the best overall ranking.


Yes, but every school fills out the end of their class with low 4-stars and 3-stars which brings the ranking down. Last year both Bama and UGA were higher at this time of year in average player ratings than they were when they finished. While it's POSSIBLE Bama could end up the same or higher as they are right now, history shows that's unlikely even for the best recruiting teams.

Look, Bama's going to have a solid class. but based on what we see right now it will likely be 6th or 7th at the end of the cycle, not 2nd or 3rd. That's not bad. But it's not like a Saban level class. That's because history shows us that MOST OF THE TIME, teams end up about where their average player rating ranks them in June when the classes are finalized in February.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:48 pm to
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That is not a fact, sorry.

Can he sustain it? Who knows. But currently, 9 of our commitments rank inside the Top 100 on at least one service. That’s more than LSU, whose class is shaping up to be one of the best in your program’s history.


In the composite rankings, Bama has 4 of their 17 commits inside the top 100. They have 2 more from 101-150 (both in the 140's).

LSU has 4 of their 12 commits in the top 100. they have 3 more in 101-150 (all above 127).

LSU is sitting in much better position that Bama is right now. They have more top flight talent despite having a lower number of total commits. That's a good thing for LSU.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:37 pm to
Bro, you’re getting owned in here.

Saying 2024 was KD’s transition class was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while. Not to mention comparing a “full cycle” as you call it, in 2018 and 2008 to an era with ESD, commits being mostly committed before fall, and NIL/Portal. Dumber people like Josh Pate or numerous other full time CFB analysts believe things have completely changed in the recruiting cycle, but you must know way more than them as well as all the coaches that have indicated the drastic change in recruiting calendar. Congrats on being the smartest CFB mind on the planet.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:38 pm to
Saban would have already had several of those guys committed. Why is it so difficult for you folks to just admit there’s going to be a drop off.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:40 pm to
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Saban would have already had several of those guys committed. Why is it so difficult for you folks to just admit there’s going to be a drop off.


There is going to be a drop off. We’re going to go from #1 to consistently top 4 after this first class is behind us. Some of that is NIL, some of that is new coach. Was never going to be as dominant as the GOAT…only a fool would think that.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
3295 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:04 pm to
Totally bs..u dk cfb u don't know numbers
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:08 pm to
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Saban would have already had several of those guys committed.


Actually, nearly every summer in the Saban era, rival fans were trolling Alabama fans about the lackluster recruiting effort, then in the last couple of months Saban would pick and choose who he most wanted.
Posted by Dieselmike
Member since Jun 2024
139 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:35 pm to
Unfortunately, Alabama isn’t going anywhere. Alabama will always be one of the best teams in our conference.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:57 pm to
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There is going to be a drop off. We’re going to go from #1 to consistently top 4 after this first class is behind us. Some of that is NIL, some of that is new coach. Was never going to be as dominant as the GOAT…only a fool would think that.


This. NO-ONE is arguing that DeBoer is going to maintain Saban level recruiting. But after hearing Husky Harsin jokes, etc. for months, Bama fans are pointing out that DeBoer and staff are currently recruiting at a high level.

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