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re: Alabama OG Alphonse Taylor found not guilty of DUI and leaving the scene
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:29 am to JuiceTerry
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:29 am to JuiceTerry
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She must have had a terrible lawyer, or none at all.
yup
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:29 am to DollaChoppa
quote:They lie about pretty much everything...
So what, are we to believe the police just made shite up and lied?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:29 am to airfernando
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Total bs. I live in bama and know a woman who was arrested and found guilty of DUI for sleeping in her car in a parking lot. Key in ignition but car wasnt cranked . No test of any sort was administered.
either your friend is lying to you or she just pled guilty. and i think it goes without saying she didn't have a lawyer. even an incompetent lawyer would have gotten that dropped if what you're saying is true
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:31 am to DollaChoppa
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So what, are we to believe the police just made shite up and lied?
Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:32 am to airfernando
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Total bs. I live in bama and know a woman who was arrested and found guilty of DUI for sleeping in her car in a parking lot. Key in ignition but car wasnt cranked . No test of any sort was administered.
Did she say something that could be construed as a confession? If she couldn't get out of a DUI without failing a test then she's either dumb or has a terrible lawyer.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:34 am to bamawriter
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Did she say something that could be construed as a confession? If she couldn't get out of a DUI without failing a test then she's either dumb or has a terrible lawyer.
i think his friend is full of shite personally. if she didn't plea, even if she represented herself pro se, a judge would have dismissed a DUI charge with that set of circumstances
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:46 am to lsu711
From what I read about this. NOT AN EXPERT. The cops made the right call. Showed up to a hit and run. Found the suspect. He passed the breathalyzer which is one of many tools that can be used. Administered a sabrioty test. You can be under the influence of other things. He failed. He did not tell the cops he hit his head, the layer said that later. Whether he called or not he still left the scene of an accident. No need for a blood test. The court doesn't have to prove what you were on, just that you were driving impaired.
He just got a decent layer. And the fact he called helped a lot. I'm sure he also had medical records showing he hit his head.
There's no scandal here.
He just got a decent layer. And the fact he called helped a lot. I'm sure he also had medical records showing he hit his head.
There's no scandal here.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:55 am to IrrationalMeltdown
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The court doesn't have to prove what you were on, just that you were driving impaired.
they cannot meet their burden of proof without showing something that causes impairment in your system. people fail field sobriety tests for a multitude of reasons that do not involve impairment.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:11 am to lsufball19
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This is incredible. So what, are we to believe the police just made shite up and lied? Then they should be fired right?
burden of proof. the worst public defenders win cases like this
fify.
Seriously, someone should be fired, and if Taylor sues, it should be settled quickly and quietly. Zero evidence...in fact, concrete evidence that he was innocent on the DUI. No way you get a unanimous jury to convict when he blew a 0.0.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:14 am to BamaGradinTn
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Seriously, someone should be fired, and if Taylor sues, it should be settled quickly and quietly. Zero evidence...in fact, concrete evidence that he was innocent on the DUI. No way you get a unanimous jury to convict when he blew a 0.0.
the charges were dropped...people are charged with crimes all the time. the burden needed to charge is not that great. people don't have grounds to sue every time their charges are dismissed for lack of evidence to convict
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:18 am to lsufball19
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The arresting officer filed a report saying that Taylor was very lethargic, slow, and slurred,
And this guy gets a full ride to Alabama which I pay state taxes to
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:18 am to lsufball19
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they cannot meet their burden of proof without showing something that causes impairment in your system. People fail field sobriety tests for a multitude of reasons that do not involve impairment.
they meet the burden of proof with the sabrioty test and the accident. It reinforces the case if you have a breathalyzer or blood work. If you were just pulled over for another reason and the cop thought you were under he would have to prove you were under. Two different cases.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:22 am to IrrationalMeltdown
I'm just glad Alphonse is good to go and hopefully his head is straight for Saturday nights showdown.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:22 am to bamawriter
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Without having been in court to hear arguments, I assume that he argued that he was out of it from the injury when he drove off, and then called the cops when he started coming around.
And you don't have to have seen every episode of Law & Order to see reasonable doubt all over this.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:22 am to IrrationalMeltdown
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they meet the burden of proof with the sabrioty test and the accident.
If you have an accident, the field sobriety test should be easy to get thrown out.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:24 am to lsufball19
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the charges were dropped
Not according to the article in the OP. Dropped charges =/= being found not guilty. Being found not guilty is a trial verdict, not a decision to drop charges.
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people don't have grounds to sue every time their charges are dismissed for lack of evidence to convict
And again, according to the OP, this isn't what happened.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:28 am to BamaGradinTn
Someone here apparently doesn't understand the difference between charges being dropped and actually having a trial that ends in a verdict.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:30 am to TT9
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absolutely. And a lawsuit brought against them.
whether this was sarcasm or absolute sincerity, doesn't matter, it is hilarious either way.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:30 am to BamaGradinTn
even if it was a trial, which is kind of unclear by the short article, you don't have grounds to sue just because you were found not guilty either. same rationale applies. the burden to charge is probable cause. the burden to convict is beyond a reasonable doubt. people are thinking about this entirely too much. based on the evidence we know, it seems as if the proper ruling came out of all of this. end of story
ETA: it was a bench trial, and the judge has yet to rule on leaving the scene
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ETA: it was a bench trial, and the judge has yet to rule on leaving the scene
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This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:30 am to 14&Counting
quote:. Probably gave him a breathalyzer test 24 hours later
Especially when you blow a 0.0 as in this case.
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