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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:24 am to ALA2262
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:24 am to ALA2262
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No, he did not. He asked for and received a RELEASE automatically. There is no WAIVER necessary because he has met the residency requirement.
There is more than one requirement. his release was also predicated on the waiver
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 10:24 am
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:40 am to parrothead
quote:He just graduated last Saturday afternoon. He was only eligible for a "graduate-transfer" for 4 days when he was granted a waiver.
Somebody said it yesterday but this whole situation is ridiculous. If he was so attached to Kirby why didn't he apply for a transfer in January? Why did he wait all the way until a month ago to do so. Something fishy is going on. If that was his sincere reason he should have left a while ago.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:45 am to DawgsLife
Chris Black also asked for it mid-season in 2015. Smith did this in mid-June of 2016, aproximately a month and a half before Fall Camp.
The timing is pretty terrible for Smith, especially considering he likely knew he was graduating long before he asked.
The timing is pretty terrible for Smith, especially considering he likely knew he was graduating long before he asked.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:11 am to NYCAuburn
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There is more than one requirement. his release was also predicated on the waiver
Yes but one has nothing to do with the other. The release has to do with the scholarship. The waiver has to do with the residency requirement. Smith can go to UGA immediately because of the release. He is not eligible to play this year without the waiver.
Black knew that his chances of receiving a waiver were slim to none and Slim was leaving. For Missouri. Black left with Slim and met the residency requirement.
Black got a release and does not need a waiver in order to play this season. Smith got a release and needs a waiver in order to play this season.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:17 am to DawgsLife
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AGAIN..I have no problem with Nick Saban. It is his right to refuse as per the rule. But you guys are acting like the kid was way off base for asking for the waiver
I was on the fence about this 3 days ago and was leaning towards let the kid go, as a fan. After he and his mom went public though and the fact came out that his mom started meddling and went to the coaches behind his back, and then after a few months, he then decided he wanted to transfer.. honestly.. that just put me full on the side of the University and Saban. Meddling momma's, when your kid is an adult and a graduate, who is trying to decide what they do as she did just rubs me the wrong way. I have as much disdain for that family as I do Mizzou and it's players after their "boycott" last yr for that privileged kid on the supposed hunger strike.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:18 am to ALA2262
How many players actually graduate early and are looking to transfer. It's not that many. You act like this sets a precedent for hundreds of players to be transferring in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:19 am to GregAl
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Now the doors are open to SEC schools poaching players in Maurice Smith's situation.
Really? Ask Bowing Green how they feel when your coach "poached" their player.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:21 am to ALA2262
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Yes but one has nothing to do with the other. The release has to do with the scholarship. The waiver has to do with the residency requirement. Smith can go to UGA immediately because of the release. He is not eligible to play this year without the waiver.
You are confusing a few things here and incorrect.
He needed the waiver to play immediately, despite all other requirements needed to be fulfilled.
He lucked out because of the process and got an automatic waiver because alabama did not respond
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:23 am to Barstools
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How many players actually graduate early and are looking to transfer. It's not that many.
Thats the thing, they have to be looking. Despite what a few bama fans are thinking here, coaches cant go and poach/recruit grads here. And this happens for 100 other teams(like we heard all last week) this just added 13 new teams to the potential destination
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:25 am to NYCAuburn
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Despite what a few bama fans are thinking here, coaches cant go and poach/recruit grads here
I think most know that. I think most are concerned that is what happened though.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:25 am to jatebe
Glad to see Lord Saban finally doing the right thing
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:28 am to Alahunter
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I think most are concerned that is what happened though.
If Alabama thinks for a second that Kirby recruited prior to Saban allowing the contact, they can let the SEC know. The SEC will reject the waiver
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I think most know that
Which why I said a few. But there are several in these threads proclaiming it quite often
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:31 am to NYCAuburn
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If Alabama thinks for a second that Kirby recruited prior to Saban allowing the contact, they can let the SEC know. The SEC will reject the waiver
Agreed.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:35 am to Alahunter
it's actually one of the things that they review prior to final approval.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:35 am to jatebe
Right thing to do
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:36 am to jatebe
quote:I'm eager to see if the SEC feels like Maurice Smith's "circumstances" demonstrate a clear reason for granting a waiver to play immediately.
he SEC office had on Smith's specific case on Wednesday but did issue a statement in the waiver process. "The SEC does not comment on requests to waive SEC rules," the SEC release said. "As part of the SEC waiver process, a due diligence procedure ensures that pertinent information from the involved parties is gathered. This information is gathered for the purpose of a thoughtful and appropriate consideration of the particular facts associated with each case. The intent is for the waiver process to be handled in an efficient but deliberate manner, so the timeline for resolution of a waiver request varies with each unique situation. The SEC does not provide waivers of SEC rules absent circumstances that demonstrate a clear reason for granting an exception to those rules. Each waiver request is reviewed on a case by case basis."
I could see a situation where a player needs to be closer to home, or having a very ill family member which clearly aren't the case with Smith. I could understand if he was relegated to the bench at Bama and was buried on the depth chart with little to no chance of playing, which isn't the case with Smith.
I'd just like to know the circumstances he plans to appeal to the SEC office for a waiver.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:39 am to ALA2262
Does the rest of the SEC really want them to be able to pick up the best of those from the best conference?
No possible harm in that. They'll never be any better than Gehrig Dieter and Richard Mullaney!
No possible harm in that. They'll never be any better than Gehrig Dieter and Richard Mullaney!
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:41 am to RT1941
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I'd just like to know the circumstances he plans to appeal to the SEC office for a waiver.
They allow for the major not offered and if his scholarship was not renewed, both of these he has fulfilled
Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:21 pm to Uncle Luke
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I dont think players should be jumping around from school to school within the SEC. Just my opinion.
I don't think they should be jumping around from team to team, either. And they won't be. You are probably talking about 1 maybe 2 players a year....and that is if they want to stay in the SEC.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:35 pm to DawgsLife
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You are probably talking about 1 maybe 2 players a year....
One or two? Based on what?
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