re: Alabama At Full Health

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It was such a thorough beatdown that many Georgia fans felt undeserving of the playoffs

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Yeah we just hate ourselves. I look at all of the national championship merchandise and pictures I took at the game, and I feel ashamed.

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True, and it wasn't just "earlier in the season". It was only 1 game in between Alabama destroying Georgia, losing their 2 biggest offensive weapons, and then losing a nailbiter of a rematch.

It was such a thorough beatdown that many Georgia fans felt undeserving of the playoffs.

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I love how Bama fans are now calling a 15 point loss a "nailbiter" while a 17 point win is "DESTROYING" the other team.

Man... two points makes a lot of difference I guess. Shame UGA didn't convert their two point conversion on the Adonai Mitchell TD. Then we'd have a "destruction" instead of a "nailbiter".

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We proved who the better team was before losing our offense to injuries, and have the hardware to show for it.

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Are you sending out petitions for people to sign in hopes for bama to get awarded HALF on the 2021 National Championship???

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You could potentially make that argument, but it is less impactful than someone who has started the season or at least was planning on playing but then decided to quit.

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There are players who aren't a part of the team by their choice or the team's choice. If you have something missing it isn't by choice. For example, people put up missing posters or notices of things like pets/personal items/etc. Those aren't missing by choice.

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I love how Bama fans are now calling a 15 point loss a "nailbiter" while a 17 point win is "DESTROYING" the other team.

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Nope. Just that guy.

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There are players who aren't a part of the team by their choice or the team's choice. If you have something missing it isn't by choice. For example, people put up missing posters or notices of things like pets/personal items/etc. Those aren't missing by choice.

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Like I said, it's about missing expected production during the season. If someone declares for the draft, he isn't expected to produce once the next season starts. Once the season starts, the expectation is that the players are going to produce for you. When a player stops producing during the season, they certainly can be "missed" for whatever reason, whether they quit, are suspended, or even if they are held out for a time (say, due to a targeting penalty in the 2nd half of the previous game).

I think you're getting hung up on the term "missing". You believe for something to be missed, it must have been "lost" on accident rather than on purpose. Have you ever had to send a child away to school or have them move out to start their independent life? You can still "miss" them even though they are gone with intent. Ever move to a new home and/or state? You can "miss" those you left behind, or even the place you left behind though you may have left on purpose.

If a player struggles with their grades and can't play in the post-season because they are academically ineligible, can they be "missed" by their team if they were a productive member of the team? Sure they can, because they were likely expected to play and when they couldn't play, they were "missed". When a player--especially a starter--cannot play, it affects more than themselves. It affects the chemistry of the team. It affects any backups that have to sub in (including depleted depth that was planned for due to the expected presence of the "missing" person). It potentially affects what plays or schemes can be called by the coordinators. And depending on the skill level, talent level, and experience level of the backup, it could be a net loss of productivity for that position regardless of anything else.

So yes, a player can be "missed" when they can no longer play, for whatever reason, when they were expected to play and produce for the team. That's why the best teams develop depth at all positions, so they can truly have a "next man up" mentality, regardless of who is missing, and why.

Your re-definition of "missing" seems to be from the leftist deconstructionist playbook where meanings of words are stripped and replaced to mean something else in order to drive a particular narrative. I hope you are just mistaken rather than willfully abusing reason and language.

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Like I said, it's about missing expected production during the season.

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But you don't expect production from someone who isn't a part of your team by their choice. Your expectations end when the player chooses to leave. You may miss them emotionally, wish they hadn't left, but you don't expect anything from them as the expectations ended when they were no longer a part of the team.

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But you don't expect production from someone who isn't a part of your team by their choice. Your expectations end when the player chooses to leave. You may miss them emotionally, wish they hadn't left, but you don't expect anything from them as the expectations ended when they were no longer a part of the team.

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You also don’t expect production from someone who was never healthy enough to dress out, but that hasn’t stopped the bitching about Metchie being “missing”. Your expectations for him ended 5 weeks prior to the NC game.

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But you don't expect production from someone who isn't a part of your team by their choice. Your expectations end when the player chooses to leave. You may miss them emotionally, wish they hadn't left, but you don't expect anything from them as the expectations ended when they were no longer a part of the team.

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The expectation is prior to their departure, not after. The reason why the expectation is prior to the departure is because that's when the planning and preparations have begun, as well as the formation of the team chemistry. A player leaving during the season doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it can affect the outcome of games, and the reason why the player left doesn't change that impact.

Take my example of Jamie Newman transferring to UGA in 2020. He transferred in after our 3-year starting QB declared for the draft early and unexpectedly, and Newman was expected to be the starting QB for the following season based on his skillset and experience. He was developing chemistry with the offense, taking snaps in practice with the #1s, and had a skillset that allowed for certain offensive game planning to occur by our OC. Shortly before the season began, he quit. He was expected to be our starting QB and his absence was "missed" due to the investment put into him and the expectations of our offense working around him as the QB. When he left, we put in D'Wan Mathis, and he simply wasn't ready. In this situation, Newman was missed by the UGA team, and Bennett had to step up and fill the gap in order for us to beat Arkansas in the season opener.

Again, the issue is around expectations. Expectations will be different based on what happens and when. Players leaving early for the draft may sting, but there is plenty of time to figure out a plan for the next season when those players leave. It's different when a player is expected to play for your team, has time and planning invested in them, and they stop playing before the season is over. The expectation is that the player will be productive in helping the team win, and when they aren't there, they are missed, regardless of the reason. This is true for stars that get injured early on as well as stars that are suspended or even quit a team when they are expected to contribute during the season.

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You also don’t expect production from someone who was never healthy enough to dress out, but that hasn’t stopped the bitching about Metchie being “missing”.

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Obviously the expectations for Methie/Williams and others ended when they were injured and couldn't play. They weren't out by any choice they made and they were still part of the team, like your DB and OG.