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Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:42 pm to Tridentds
under normal circumstances holding an SEC to 20 points? I would take that.
Problem is that our offense is quite bad at the moment; I think Fisher is forcing too many passing plays into Calzada when it's a known that the O line is having trouble providing time. In theory run blocking is supposed to be easier than pass blocking, and we have some very good RBs that need just a sliver of light to make things happen.
More concerning is if a run play is sent in and Calzada might check to a pass play. I don't know fi that's an issue or not.
But I don't get why you wouldn't run at a 3 man front.
Oh well, Arky beat us pretty solidly and really owned that first half of football. Some horrific tackling on a play coupled with a wide open WR for a LONG TD was too much to overcome.
I don't have much hope for optimism moving forward until I see marked improvement on the offensive line.
Problem is that our offense is quite bad at the moment; I think Fisher is forcing too many passing plays into Calzada when it's a known that the O line is having trouble providing time. In theory run blocking is supposed to be easier than pass blocking, and we have some very good RBs that need just a sliver of light to make things happen.
More concerning is if a run play is sent in and Calzada might check to a pass play. I don't know fi that's an issue or not.
But I don't get why you wouldn't run at a 3 man front.
Oh well, Arky beat us pretty solidly and really owned that first half of football. Some horrific tackling on a play coupled with a wide open WR for a LONG TD was too much to overcome.
I don't have much hope for optimism moving forward until I see marked improvement on the offensive line.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:45 pm to rockiee
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You are not wrong but a big portion of the yardage was in the 1st quarter before the defense really had a reason to be tired from the lack of offensive production.
350 yards in the 1st Quarter?
The defense played good enough to win if the offense had decided to show up. That is not an excuse. It's a fact. 20 points is not insurmountable.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:48 pm to KaiserSoze99
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350 yards in the 1st Quarter?
Huh?
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The defense played good enough to win if the offense had decided to show up. That is not an excuse. It's a fact. 20 points is not insurmountable.
No but its always silly to look at games that way. Did your defense play as bad as your offense. Of course not but the games changes depending on how the game is going. Does Pittman go for it on 4th down if the game is closer? Does the play calling stay the same? To many what ifs
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:49 pm to Tridentds
I think your post now qualifies for a new term on the SEC rant.
I can’t remember seeing a post like this before so I’m just gonna call it a:
Melty flex
I can’t remember seeing a post like this before so I’m just gonna call it a:
Melty flex
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:50 pm to Tridentds
Didn’t Jimbo say defense was the problem?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:52 pm to rockiee
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No but its always silly to look at games that way. Did your defense play as bad as your offense. Of course not but the games changes depending on how the game is going. Does Pittman go for it on 4th down if the game is closer? Does the play calling stay the same? To many what ifs
Sure, but does that necessarily benefit Arkansas or would that benefit A&M?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Sure, but does that necessarily benefit Arkansas or would that benefit A&M?
My whole point is you don't really know.
I just think the whole "well if the offense just scored 21 points, we win" argument is a little naive. Not saying everyone is making that argument but the defense had some issues as well, especially in the 1st quarter. We also were driving the ball when we took some knees in your redzone.
I was suspecting a low scoring game and it was but was still really shocked by the 17 points we scored fairly early.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:04 pm to abellsujr
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Didn’t Jimbo say defense was the problem?
Jimbo: Postgame Presser
0:18 - we got started off to a slow start
0:26 - Offensively we had two drives that...we got to the 50...miss a block and lose 8 yards...don't get points.
1:01 defensively, we have had too many big plays...300 yards in the first half. didn't tackle well, hit the big plays....
1:20 ...(back to offense)
1:37 defensively we did a really good job in the 2nd half but we still gave up drives....
1:50 we would get the ball back and get two or three first downs and then get to midfield and get a negative play, get a [penalty]
2:34 ...we've got to get the playing more consistently and...that's coaching.
He didn't blame the defense. He said they didn't play well in the first quarter, but they played well in the 2nd half. The offense couldn't cross the 50. The offense would not take advantage of the good defensive plays.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:05 pm to rockiee
That’s fair. Like I said, big plays in the Arky passing game were the big difference. And those were not expected to carry the day.
But Calzada shite the bed - and you have to admit that better QB should be the primary focus.
But Calzada shite the bed - and you have to admit that better QB should be the primary focus.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:05 pm to rockiee
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My whole point is you don't really know.
I just think the whole "well if the offense just scored 21 points, we win" argument is a little naive. Not saying everyone is making that argument but the defense had some issues as well, especially in the 1st quarter. We also were driving the ball when we took some knees in your redzone.
I was suspecting a low scoring game and it was but was still really shocked by the 17 points we scored fairly early.
That's not my argument.
My argument is that the defense played good enough to win. Not that we would have won.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:06 pm to KaiserSoze99
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The defense played good enough to win if the offense had decided to show up.
No. It didn’t. Otherwise, you would have held arky to fewer points than atm.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:07 pm to DashRipRock
When Jefferson and Burks were both healthy they were bludgeoning A&M.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:07 pm to DashRipRock
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No. It didn’t. Otherwise, you would have held arky to fewer points than atm.
Again, I am not arguing that we would have won. I am arguing that the defense played good enough to win. The offense DECIDEDLY did not play good enough to beat a high school team. The only way were were even in this game at all was because of the defense.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:08 pm to Tridentds
This us truly sad! A&M has become Moral Victory University MVU!
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:09 pm to KaiserSoze99
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That's not my argument.
Never said it was, hence my sentence after that argument
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My argument is that the defense played good enough to win. Not that we would have won.
I never even countered that original argument, my first response to you was in regards to the defense gave up more yards because of the zero offense output by your offense.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:09 pm to Tridentds
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...lowest of the year.
This is a nice moral victory. I haven't seen this one before.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:11 pm to beaverfever
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When Jefferson and Burks were both healthy they were bludgeoning A&M.
You aren't allowed to use the "injury argument" on the rant.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:12 pm to AGGIES
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That’s fair. Like I said, big plays in the Arky passing game were the big difference. And those were not expected to carry the day.
But honestly it was the runs before that, which allowed us to hit more shots downfield. That long pass to burks was partly because the safety bit on the run fake.
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But Calzada shite the bed - and you have to admit that better QB should be the primary focus.
Honestly I see it as three big issues
QB, play calling and that offensive line
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:18 pm to rockiee
Well the 85 yard bomb was on first down after a false start. Jones is a good cover corner, Burks just beat him 1 on 1. Great play.
The OL was not great. But he made them look worse. They did give him more time than it looked at first. There were so many times that Calzada could’ve made a throw and he didn’t. Or he scrambled and threw it away. Or he stumbled around and fell down. We can’t know if those were bad play calls.
But I also agree. In retrospect, Jimbo should’ve scrapped the original game plan after seeing what Calzada was doing.
The OL was not great. But he made them look worse. They did give him more time than it looked at first. There were so many times that Calzada could’ve made a throw and he didn’t. Or he scrambled and threw it away. Or he stumbled around and fell down. We can’t know if those were bad play calls.
But I also agree. In retrospect, Jimbo should’ve scrapped the original game plan after seeing what Calzada was doing.
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