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Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:48 am to HogKing111
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:48 am to HogKing111
I absolutely love PP7. I obviously would be happy to see him #1. He is the closest thing to Deion Sanders (combo lockdown corner/dynamic return abilty) I have ever seen.
Unfortunately, while CB's can imapct the game, they can be avoided by just running the ball or throwing to other areas. Same thing with kick returning: simply just don't kick it to him. On defense, pass rushing DE's & DT's can't be avoided. CB's can be effectively gameplanned against for the most part. Teams mainly build around QB's and pass-rushers, not cornerbacks. That's why none has ever been drafted #1 overall.
Even Deion Sanders was drafted behind Troy Aikman, Tony Mandarich, Barry Sanders, & Derrick Thomas. But it'd be nice if someone finally takes a flier on a potential Darrell Revis/Devin Hester combo CB/plamaker.
Unfortunately, while CB's can imapct the game, they can be avoided by just running the ball or throwing to other areas. Same thing with kick returning: simply just don't kick it to him. On defense, pass rushing DE's & DT's can't be avoided. CB's can be effectively gameplanned against for the most part. Teams mainly build around QB's and pass-rushers, not cornerbacks. That's why none has ever been drafted #1 overall.
Even Deion Sanders was drafted behind Troy Aikman, Tony Mandarich, Barry Sanders, & Derrick Thomas. But it'd be nice if someone finally takes a flier on a potential Darrell Revis/Devin Hester combo CB/plamaker.
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:21 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
I am not sold on Cam as an NFL QB! TE maybe.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:26 am to bencoleman
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It just doesnt make sense to pick a QB first pick this year. Either pick PP with the first or trade down for a first and second round pick.
You guys say things like this as if its an easy thing to do.
Its not.
Trading the #1 overall pick in a year without an OBVIOUS choice over and above all others is a very, very difficult thing to do.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:26 am to HogKing111
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I love PP7, I really do, I just can't remember a DB being the first pick. When's the last time that happened?
1956
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:28 am to bencoleman
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I dont know a long time but he is a very talented player. who should have a long career in the league. it is a cant miss pick.
No such animal exists, brah.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:29 am to bencoleman
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I would trade down
alot easier said then done.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:30 am to HogKing111
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Like I said in a thread last week (and was laughed at by everyone), Mallett has a chance to be first selected.
no he doesn't. Are you this stupid? Clearly if they decide they want Mallett they're going to trade into the late 1st/early 2nd and take him.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:30 am to HogKing111
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hat NFL team without a QB would want to WASTE their pick on a 6'7" QB with a rocket arm who has thrown for over 7,000 yards verse the best defenses in college football the past two years in a pro-style system?
that is weak.Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:31 am to jacks40
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pick him in the 2nd.
they don't have one. Which means if they want him they're going to have to trade back into rd. 2
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:31 am to HogKing111
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Mallett's not making it out of the first round
yes he is
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:41 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Newton to the Panthers would make me happy as a Saints fan
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:44 am to adammwilson
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Mallett's not making it out of the first round
yes he is
will you eat your crow after the draft?
Posted on 3/22/11 at 9:46 am to sugatowng
I really don't see us picking Mallett/Newton. I would think we'd trade down before doing this.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 10:13 am to adammwilson
Mallet has put up the best numbers against the best defenses college football has to offer. He has all the tools physically but that has not always made a sure fire pro QB. I think personally he is the obvious choice if they take QB #1.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 10:43 am to MagillaGuerilla
Newton/Locker= Bust
Posted on 3/22/11 at 12:17 pm to LSUFreek
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Carolina went 2-14 with Jimmy Clausen/Moore. The need a franchise QB. There's a reason the teams from 32 to 17 are picking where they are: they all have a legit QB at the helm.
Rookie quarterbacks typically don't do well when basically every member of their offensive line misses at least one game, their top two running backs both miss at least half the season, and they only have one legit proven receiving option who is on the wrong side of 30 and undersized.
Jimmy Clausen/Matt Moore were one of the Panthers' numerous problems last year, but they were far from the
quote:biggest.
Then Denver with Orton/Tebow
Denver has several needs and quarterback is not among them. They'll more than likely take one of the following players: AJ Green, Marcel Dareus, or Patrick Peterson. They need help on that line and in the secondary. They also need a legit number one receiver.
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they might jump up to the #1 spot to get that ticket seller & "hope-inspirer" for their depressed fans.
I think you are seriously overestimating the selling power of one rookie quarterback. 95% of fans know that simply drafting a rookie quarterback who wasn't proven shite in the NFL is not going to instantly make your team better, especially if you have other needs, most of which are more pressing.
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Point is, a QB is still taken #1.
I don't see any scenario in which that happens. Feel free to bookmark this as I stand by that statement.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 12:19 pm to LSUFreek
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I absolutely love PP7. I obviously would be happy to see him #1. He is the closest thing to Deion Sanders (combo lockdown corner/dynamic return abilty) I have ever seen.
Unfortunately, while CB's can imapct the game, they can be avoided by just running the ball or throwing to other areas. Same thing with kick returning: simply just don't kick it to him. On defense, pass rushing DE's & DT's can't be avoided. CB's can be effectively gameplanned against for the most part. Teams mainly build around QB's and pass-rushers, not cornerbacks. That's why none has ever been drafted #1 overall.
Even Deion Sanders was drafted behind Troy Aikman, Tony Mandarich, Barry Sanders, & Derrick Thomas. But it'd be nice if someone finally takes a flier on a potential Darrell Revis/Devin Hester combo CB/plamaker.
Great corners shutdown a team's number one receiver and can force coverage sacks. That's a pretty big impact on the game.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 12:20 pm to adammwilson
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Mallett's not making it out of the first round
yes he is
Bookmarked.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 12:27 pm to HogKing111
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I have to agree with you there. A defensive back who can lockdown the opposing team's best WR, make big plays on D, and be a big factor in the kickoff/punt return game is deserving of the #1 pick.
If PP#7 transitions to the NFL well as a lockdown CB, there is no chance in hell a team will put him out for returns.
Darrelle Revis was a gifted returner at Pitt, but it will always be "secondary" to CB. If he gets hurt, it should be out there covering someone, not returning a kick...
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:06 pm to LSUFreek
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I still think Mallett should be #1 if you are taking a QB
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-Mallett has better size (6-6) than Gabbert (6-4)or Newton (6-5).
not important.
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-Mallett has a better arm than Gabbert or Newton and one arguably stronger than anyone currently in the NFL.
not important.
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-Mallett has produced better numbers in a tougher league (in just two years) than Gabbert did in 3 years in a weaker league. (Newton doesn't even qualify in the college passing numbers comparisons.)
Mallett played with better players and played in a more wide open offense.
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Only a failed drug test or unpublicized illegal incident could keep him from not being drafted early, if not #1 overall.
wrong answer.
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