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re: ACC Proving You Can Play

Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Virginia Tech played in national title game, lost to FSU.

Crap dude. You going to pull out results from 15 years ago to prove that the ACC is good NOW?

Wait a minute. Are you talking about 1999?

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That Michael Team vick team would have beat the average SEC winner most years, especially a Fromm QB UGA team.


Maybe you are right. That one team that played 20 years ago might have beaten an SEC team.

TOUCHE!
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:08 pm to
my point is just b/c Clemson has been the best the last 5 years doesn't mean it is a one team conference.

Va Tech wasn't in the ACC during the Vick years so I wasn't including that to make a case for ACC.

FSU was ranked in final top 10 the year Watson won it with Clemson. Clemson beat FSU on the road in an epic game.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
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my point is just b/c Clemson has been the best the last 5 years doesn't mean it is a one team conference.




Yes, it does, because no other team in the last 10 has even come close to winning a National Title....except FSU one year.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
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my point is just b/c Clemson has been the best the last 5 years doesn't mean it is a one team conference.


Has any other ACC team won a NY6 bowl in that time?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:11 pm to
again this isn't true, given Miami goes to playoffs 3 years ago if they beat Clemson.

UNC would have had only one loss if they had beat Clemson 4 years ago. That was a better team on offense than the average SEC team.

This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Has any other ACC team PLAYED in a NY6 bowl in that time?


FIFY

They might have, but I can't think of one right off hand. The depth of the ACC is amazing, I tell you! Simply amazing! I don't know how Clemson makes it through their conference with that team that won something 20 years ago still in it.



Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:14 pm to
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again this isn't true, given Miami goes to playoffs 3 years ago if they beat Clemson


Couldn't even beat #6 Wisconsin

Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:15 pm to
Given Miami has a better history than UGA in football and has yet to win the ACC suggests ACC is better than advertised.

UGA's only won one national title which could be why it likes to talk up its conference. lol

This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52497 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Given Miami has a better history than UGA in football and has yet to win the ACC suggests ACC is better than advertised.


Well thats a retarded take.

Miami hasn't been that great since they've been in the ACC.

Its more of a case of them playing to your level than your conference being better than them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:19 pm to
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again this isn't true, given Miami goes to playoffs 3 years ago if they beat Clemson.


Come on dude! they would NOT have gone to the playoffs! they were ranked #13 at the end of the season. Pittsburgh beat them 24-14 and Wisconsin beat them 34-24. Do you honestly believe they were playoff worthy? That is also the year the SEC had THREE teams that was close. Auburn, Alabama and Georgia.

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UNC would have had only one loss if they had beat Clemson 4 years ago. That was a better team on offense than the average SEC team.

And if every ACC team had gone undefeated the whole conference would have gone.

If you want to play "Let's eliminate one loss" then the SEC would have a whole lot more teams make the playoffs.

Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Alabama and possibly LSU would have more appearances in the playoffs if we could have magically wished away one loss.

I can't believe you even want to play that game!
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:19 pm to
in my view, LSU isn't anything special most years.

last year's team was really the only LSU team that was fun to watch on offense

the joke is SEC teams move up in the polls after they lose to Alabama
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Given Miami has a better history than UGA in football and has yet to win the ACC suggests ACC is better than advertised.

UGA's only won one national title which could be why it likes to talk up its conference. lol





So now you want to ride on the backs of teams that won championships BEFORE they were in the ACC?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:21 pm to
not sure why you think i care about the fortune of other ACC schools. lol

what i don't understand is why the committee takes an ACC school every year if the schedule is so easy. They left UCF out

This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:23 pm to
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in my view, LSU isn't anything special most years.


In your view, the ACC is a tough conference, so excuse us if we don't take your view seriously.
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last year's team was really the only LSU team that was fun to watch on offense


Crap, half of Alabama's championship teams were not fun to watch on offense. Do we take those championships away from them and say they don't count?

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the joke is SEC teams move up in the polls after they lose to Alabama


Well, since Alabama has 15 National Championships and 5 in the last 10 years....sometimes you can move up when you play really good teams closely.

If Clemson had played LSU closely last year, who knows? they may have given you a participation trophy, or something.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52497 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:25 pm to
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in my view, LSU isn't anything special most years.



LSU has more championships than your entire conference in this century.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:26 pm to
makes me laugh when SEC homers try to make that Alabama QB who won two titles as a scrub. lol Isn't he in the NFL lol
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:27 pm to
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not sure why you think i care about the fortune of other ACC schools. lol



You are the one arguing that the ACC is a tough conference.

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what i don't understand is why the committee takes an ACC school every year if the schedule is so easy. They left UCF out.


An ACC team every year? You mean, Clemson?

Because Clemson has been good the last 5 years, maybe?
You just don't seem to understand that it does not mean the whole conference is good. And really? You now want to compare yourself to UCF? Go ahead. have at it.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:28 pm to
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LSU has more championships than your entire conference in this century.




LSU's title years don't mean they aren't mediocre most years. Should be noted LSU other two titles didn't come in the playoff era.

what's funny is UGA gets as much hype as LSU with only one title they won in 1980
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52497 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:29 pm to
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LSU's title years don't mean they aren't mediocre most years


What does that statement say about your conference?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:31 pm to
One ACC college has twice as many playoff titles than LSU that came over a team that has owned Bama the last 10 years.

Clemson's run over the last 10 years has been made possible by Clemson's ability to beat SEC programs consistently.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 1:33 pm
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