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Academics starting to call for the end of college football

Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:53 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:53 am
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From the paper:

I don’t believe we should ban football. If the risks are known and informed consent is given, people should be allowed to pursue their passion.

But if what we suspect about football and head trauma turns out to be indisputably true[2] higher education institutions should have nothing to do with the sport. Let it be a concern of private parties.

We don’t have a lot of evidence of institutions managing to adhere to their values when it comes to the temptations of big time athletics,[3] so I’m not actually hopeful they’ll address this dilemma directly, but we should at least acknowledge the hypocrisy.


Those interested should take the time to read the comments - there is overwhelming support among academics to get rid of college football.

This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 10:55 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:57 am to
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From the paper: 
Sounds reliable
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:02 am to
Actually we will continue to see changes. Lawsuits will significantly change how football is played. They are coming and universities will pay out big money. It is probable time to elevate the conversation about what can be done beyond a ban (those don't work). It will start at the smaller schools (non-scholarship) because they can not afford it.

Also, look for more flag football and less hitting in elementary and middle school areas. (7-7 will take effect)

Actually hard to argue with their premise.

There is little doubt that football is bad for the brain. As the years pass, we will come to understand exactly how bad, but there is already good reason to believe that playing football comes coupled with a significantly increased likelihood of diminished cognitive function and even decreased lifespan.
Given these facts, I think it’s probably time for universities to start considering how they’re going to disentangle themselves from football. It’s not going to be easy, but if it isn’t already apparent, someday it will be clear that institutions which are supposed to help students realize their intellectual and emotional capacities instead sponsor an activity directly linked to the opposite.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:03 am to
I vote we shift all our top athletes to Rugby and soccer... then we can dominate the commies at their own sport on the reg.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:04 am to
I work a lot at UA with low income people in West Alabama. Most of these kids already know the risks. They may not fully understand the long term consequences, but they would take the risk even if they did.

Academics are mostly sheltered from these communities, so they wouldn't understand. You're taking away a free education from thousands. Even if a player isn't good enough to make college, you're taking away what he considers the only thing he's ever been good at if you ban high school ball.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 11:12 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:04 am to
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Rugby and soccer..


Both of those sports are in trouble long term b/c of concussions too.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:07 am to
reasons college football won't end: $$$$$$$$$
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:09 am to
This is sure to be unpopular but I'll support banning football before I support paying players.

We have completely lost all vision and values if we pay kids to play college football with the budget shortfalls that most SEC states face yearly. Priorities, man. I can't imagine being a teacher or a cop and seeing people get enthusiastic about paying kids to play a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32236 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:11 am to
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Sounds reliable


Pretty sure that is the leading group on the study of CTE. Can you cite something that is incorrect in the article? You might disagree with her opinions but the numbers are pretty striking.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:12 am to
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Rugby and soccer..



Both of those sports are in trouble long term b/c of concussions too.




Indeed.

Rugby is a violent sport, you are going to get concussions playing it... and soccer... well the human head is not built to slam into a soccer ball a thousand or so times a year (games but mostly in practice). More and more soccer players around the world are starting to show signs of CTE.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3563 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:18 am to
More and more... like 12

Simply not true
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3027 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:21 am to
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Priorities, man. I can't imagine being a teacher or a cop and seeing people get enthusiastic about paying kids to play a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding



okay, then what about paying coaches millions to coach a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17741 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:22 am to
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okay, then what about paying coaches millions to coach a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding?


Shameful
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:34 am to
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okay, then what about paying coaches millions to coach a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding?


private money pays for that. LSU gave back 11 million to the academic side in 2015. Football helps academics. Except Auburn. They are the only school (In the SEC) accepting state money still
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:38 am to
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private money pays for that


I don't begrudge the coaches, and I understand the economics which show that successful coaches make the schools money. I'm offended by the priority that we place on college football.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:39 am to
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Also, look for more flag football and less hitting in elementary and middle school areas. (7-7 will take effect)

I don't have any problem with that for kids that age.
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

We have completely lost all vision and values if we pay kids to play college football with the budget shortfalls that most SEC states face yearly. Priorities, man. I can't imagine being a teacher or a cop and seeing people get enthusiastic about paying kids to play a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding


If this happens, it will be paid by boosters. Not state money. What is so hard to understand? Academics is only effected in a positive way by sports.
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:42 am to
People will donate to what they want. If they want to donate to sports, that is their money. We don't live in a communist country. People care more about athletics and entertainment. Too many people go to college anyway. We need more blue collar workers.
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:44 am to
We have 30 people designing a brick wall. With only two guys doing the work. I think i will start a job fair for kids not interested in college.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17741 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

People care more about athletics and entertainment. Too many people go to college anyway. We need more blue collar workers.


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