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re: A&M fans (regarding Texas)
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:19 pm to LSUbase13
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:19 pm to LSUbase13
Texas and Oklahoma don't give a shite about TAMU. They are focused on the Red River Rivalry. You can spit out stats of regular season games, but the reality is they both don't give a rat's arse about the Aggies.
So...Aggies -- change the words in your main song about "Goodbye to Texas University" ...you guys will NEVER play them again.
Out.
So...Aggies -- change the words in your main song about "Goodbye to Texas University" ...you guys will NEVER play them again.
Out.
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Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:21 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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So...Aggies -- change the words in your main song
You realize they sing about us too, right?
And we don't give a shite about OU either. We never had any real history with them before the Big 12
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:28 pm to mattz1122
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Texas has been top dog in the state for most of a century
Not arguing that. Arguing that one state doesn't matter if "top dog in the state" can't ever beat other states in the SEC
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Do you really think A&M joining the SEC would just suddenly shift the discussion to a program that has been irrelevant for more than a decade
Yes, for two reasons. 1. A&M may not have won an NC lately, but I think "irrelevant" is a bit of a stretch. 2. No team in the SEC is irrelevant.
Bama, LSU, Arky, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee fans don't watch any TX team regularly. Folks in TX are watching those schools play every Saturday, though. Why is that?
Because TX football is only relevant in TX. No school in the state has been "relevant" in recent years. A&M now will be, even if they have a few rough years at first, because everybody in the country watches SEC football.
You must live in Texas if you think UT is relevant and A&M isn't.
Everybody in TX acts like TCU is relevant, for God's sake
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:32 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Texas and Oklahoma don't give a shite about TAMU
Gotta come to my A&M buddies' defense here. While it may be true, who cares?
When was the last time an SEC team cared about Texas or Oklahoma?
They're consistently ranked at the top of preseason polls, then lose to terrible teams, but somehow make it to a bowl, where they lose to a real team.
Who cares what TX and OU think???
But seriously, A&M... maybe you should change your song?
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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You realize they sing about us too, right?
Enlighten me.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:15 am to txhog12
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Gotta come to my A&M buddies' defense here. While it may be true, who cares?
Simply making a point that TAMU steers all attention in their tradition to a school who ignores them for 364.9 days a year. Comical, pathetic, hysterical, sad and intriguing all on one....
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:21 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:26 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Texas Fight, Texas Fight, And it's goodbye to A&M.
Sounds like 2 schools have some re-writing to do.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:30 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Doesn't Bama sing about Georgia Tech in theirs? Who cares, they were all written in the 1800s anyways.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 12:33 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Good point.
And to be fair, it does seem like Texas only has one line about A&M, while A&M has the whole song about Texas.
LINK
Will y'all still sing this in the SEC?
And to be fair, it does seem like Texas only has one line about A&M, while A&M has the whole song about Texas.
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Will y'all still sing this in the SEC?
Posted on 2/13/12 at 1:06 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Simply making a point that TAMU steers all attention in their tradition to a school who ignores them for 364.9 days a year. Comical, pathetic, hysterical, sad and intriguing all on one....
If they didnt give a shite about A&M they wouldnt have spent so much energgy criticizing the move. you dont spendf as much time laughing as they did if you dont care.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 2:55 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
You're being pretty ignorant dude. Texas and OU are football rivals. A&M and Texas are rivals in everything. Football, basketball, baseball, swimming, academics, in the work force. It's state and school pride 24/7/365.
And we will play again. And it won't be in that many years. The SEC has put A&M vs Mizzou on thanksgiving weekend so we can easily start playing Texas & KU again.
Also, Texas hasn't always ruled the state. It was an Aggie state in the 80's and early 90's. We beat them 10 of 11 years at one point with the only loss by 1 point in Austin. Do you think all the casual fans cheered for the lesser of 2 teams for 20 years?
And we will play again. And it won't be in that many years. The SEC has put A&M vs Mizzou on thanksgiving weekend so we can easily start playing Texas & KU again.
Also, Texas hasn't always ruled the state. It was an Aggie state in the 80's and early 90's. We beat them 10 of 11 years at one point with the only loss by 1 point in Austin. Do you think all the casual fans cheered for the lesser of 2 teams for 20 years?
Posted on 2/13/12 at 6:59 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Enlighten me.
Consider yourself enlightened.
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From a 1952 letter by Colonel Walter S. Hunnicutt on the history of Texas Fight:
"I wrote 'Texas Fight' ... in an attempt to counteract the songs and yells of the Texas Aggies, which were not too complimentary to our Student Body and some of which tended to ridicule 'The Eyes of Texas'.
"Long before I entered The University of Texas in 1909 and until about the year 1928 the Aggies had one of the most effective and awe inspiring songs used by any student body any where any time. 'Farmers Fight' at that time was their sacred College song. ... It was to them what 'The Eyes of Texas' had always been to us. The song was a repetition of the words 'Farmers Fight' sung to the well known bugle call 'Taps' in the same slow tempo as the bugle call is used by the army for lights out at night.
"Returning to Marlin, TX after World War One I resumed my practice of attending most of the Texas foot-ball games, especially those with A. & M. It occurred to me that an effective way to strike back at the Aggies was to write a 'Texas Fight' song in answer to their 'Farmers Fight' using the same bugle call 'Taps' changed to lively march time and having 'Texas' throughout the song instead of 'Farmers'. 'Texas Fight' (Texas Taps) is the result."
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Most scouts don't
Every scout, not most, didn't have a single reservation about Garrett Gilbert. Are you the same person that mocks star ratings and Ketch for inflated ratings? I don't know if you are, but you can't have it both ways. Granted in the SEC, a smaller, more pure coverage QB is more plausible, but I have serious reservations. You don't have to, but to say I shouldn't because scouts at recruiting services like Perroni rate someone high, doesn't mean two shits to me.
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He's also a highly rated baseball prospect and may not every spend a day on campus because of that.
He is an Aggie legacy who is 100% obsessed with A&M. I know his father. The family's dream, from the day that kid was born, and even his older brother Kyle(weird name), was to play for A&M. You don't have to believe that, but the coaches and staff that had developed relationships with the Stewart family for over a year probably wouldn't be doing the same thing. That is my opinion, but you don't have to agree.
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...because he'd gone 9-4 the year before. If he'd gone 9-4 this year he would still have his job. Instead, while returning almost all our starters, he went 6-6.
Yes. I agree. The A&M football team lacked leadership, and Sherman's in game management was terrible. That isn't what I am attacking for Sumlin. I have nothing bad to say about Sumlin in that aspect. I like how he has a Texas Tech retread QB calling plays. And hopefully Manziel or Davis holds some inherent leadership qualities Tannehill seemed to lack. Again. I wish Sherman would have hired an offensive coordinator, and his in game management is terrible. That seems like a problem that is fixable. A chronic problem like Fran had, was terrible recruiting and running the option with a 300 pound running back.
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He definitely needs to make bowl games. And he needs to not inexplicably regress like Sherman did. It's stupid to put a number on wins, but I'm guessing if he wins at least 20 games he should be fine job wise.
I get the reservations about the system, but I'm willing to wait and see what he puts out there before judging that.
There is nothing else that could ruin it? What if he starts missing on recruits? What if the next Adrian Peterson comes around, and we don't land him because we don't run a balanced offense? Is that a reasonable concern? I think it is, but that is just my opinion.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:38 am to TeLeFaWx
*coverage CB
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:42 am to txhog12
A few points that tie up some loose ends on this thread (although many of you know this stuff):
-A&M and UT weren't in OU's conference until 1996. Until then, UT played them every year, and we played them as little as we did every other random Big 8 team. The only thing we have in common with them is a rival (texas).
-Contrary to popular belief in Austin, UT has a history of participating in annual OOC rivalry games (which they did through 1995 with OU).
-The SWC breaking up resulted in 3 retained historic rivals (TT, BU, UT), and 2 lost historic rivals (Arkansas, which happened in 91 when they headed to the promiseland, and LSU, who we'd played a total of 49 times through 1995). As of 2012, we'll have lost the 3 Texas teams, but regained Arkansas and LSU. To me, that is a wash, especially WHEN we play UT again, which many of their high up donars want. Google "Red McCombs" if you want one example.
For the record, I'm personally fine with the rivalry being put on ice for a while....UT gains more from it than we do; a yearly opportunity to play an SEC team. And lets be honest, our schedule is significantly harder than theres is now, so I'd like to get our feet on the ground in a new league before screwing with it.
-A&M and UT weren't in OU's conference until 1996. Until then, UT played them every year, and we played them as little as we did every other random Big 8 team. The only thing we have in common with them is a rival (texas).
-Contrary to popular belief in Austin, UT has a history of participating in annual OOC rivalry games (which they did through 1995 with OU).
-The SWC breaking up resulted in 3 retained historic rivals (TT, BU, UT), and 2 lost historic rivals (Arkansas, which happened in 91 when they headed to the promiseland, and LSU, who we'd played a total of 49 times through 1995). As of 2012, we'll have lost the 3 Texas teams, but regained Arkansas and LSU. To me, that is a wash, especially WHEN we play UT again, which many of their high up donars want. Google "Red McCombs" if you want one example.
For the record, I'm personally fine with the rivalry being put on ice for a while....UT gains more from it than we do; a yearly opportunity to play an SEC team. And lets be honest, our schedule is significantly harder than theres is now, so I'd like to get our feet on the ground in a new league before screwing with it.
This post was edited on 2/13/12 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:47 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Simply making a point that TAMU steers all attention in their tradition to a school who ignores them for 364.9 days a year. Comical, pathetic, hysterical, sad and intriguing all on one....
That this is true for the t shirt fans in the state.
This may come as a shock to you, since OU is a better academic school than LSU, but both are extremely week in comparison to A&M and tu. Among Texas Exes, and Former Students, which is the overwhelming majority of the upper class in the state, the rivalry is quite strong, and exists at multiple levels.
Do t shirt fans and high school kids in Dallas care about Thanksgiving or the Red River Shootout more? Obviously the Rev River Shootout, and that has to do a lot with A&M losing, and OU being the overwhelmingly dominant program in the Big XII for the last 12 years. But when those same kids apply to get a higher education, they aren't as interested in falling in to the OU/tu rivalry, since they don't need another high school diploma.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:52 am to texasaggie08
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For the record, I'm personally fine with the rivalry being put on ice for a while....UT gains more from it than we do; a yearly opportunity to play an SEC team. And lets be honest, our schedule is significantly harder than theres is now, so I'd like to get our feet on the ground in a new league before screwing with it.
I have reservations about that. The Big XII is still the most important league for the overwhelming majority of the state. Will the random t shirt fan turn on the Iowa State/Tech game? Or the Arkansas/Alabama game? My guess would be the Big XII game, at least for now.
But I agree, losing a couple in a row right out of the gate in the SEC would really really really hurt us. If the SEC talent pool is that much greater, and our recruiting will improve, then we shouldn't have much problem with them. In the last 6 years, we went .500 against tu, and the SEC reached a dominance in college football that they have never had before. If A&M capitalizes properly, the game will continue, A&M should be the dominant team.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:54 am to RebFeBrees
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Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:12 am to LSUbase13
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Screw 'em. Let me give you a little tidbit of information, no one in the SEC gives two shits about Texas.
This. The national perception of Texas football is a big bully that rarely backs up his trash talk and never left elementary school. It's a program who relishes on playing in a dilapidated conference afraid of anything or anyone that is bigger than themselves.
Give it some time and eventually the State of Texas will be SEC country. Its a culture and it takes time, but 9 times out of ten, fans a recruits will tune in to a TAMU v. Florida game over a Texas v. Baylor contest.
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