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re: A UGa Win and Alabama still making the Playoffs: Chaos for the P5 Conferences

Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:13 pm to
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I think Cuse, NCSU, BC (if QB and RB are healthy) and other ACC teams could beat LSU, Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, etc


Holy shite.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:14 pm to
if those teams were in ACC, you would say they are trash. their qb's suck. lol

if SEC and ACC sucks is so good why has Clemson owned the rivalry with SC.





This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:16 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:15 pm to
If they were in ACC you guys wouldn't win it every year and you damn sure wouldn't be playing a shite team like pitt for the conference title.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:17 pm to
pitt could def stay in the game with SEC teams outside of Alabama. lol

pitt played a tough schedule this year...at UCF, at Miami, Penn State, ND, etc. They did have the bad UNC loss. UCF whipped AUburn last year and that was Auburn's best team in a long time.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:19 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:18 pm to
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think it isn't a major factor


Link where I said that. It's the only reason it's a discussion right now.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:18 pm to
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they sure do


No, they don't.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:20 pm to
if SEC is so good and competitive, why does Alabama rarely lose. lol LSU is one of the best SEC programs and has lost 8 times in a row to Alabama. if your team is playing truly great teams on a regular basis, shouldn't it lose more?

I think the fact that Clemson has played 4 different ACC teams in the title game is evidence the league is more competitive.

This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:25 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39372 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:32 pm to
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think Cuse, NCSU, BC (if QB and RB are healthy) and other ACC teams could beat LSU, Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, etc. I don't know what you are watching but I get the feeling you don't want anything but SEC network. lol

all of the conferences were down this year. UGA g


Acc was down. Sec was the best again.
Posted by HurtDawg1856
Columbus, GA
Member since Oct 2017
33 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:00 pm to
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if SEC is so good and competitive, why does Alabama rarely lose


Did you just ask why the #1 team in the country for the last several years rarely loses?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:04 pm to
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#1 team in the country for the last several years


*#1 once since 2009.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5336 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:01 am to
To the Original Post.. I do think a 2 SEC scenario this year would cause some major playoff reconfiguring. This would be the first time that you are leaving 3 P5 confs out; but more importantly you would be leaving 2 confs out with arguably better records and accomplishments than a team you put in. You are strictly just saying you want one team in and not the others.

The last couple of years there was still controversial debate; however the team with less losses got in and that was defendable.

This would not be the case... you basically saying; we don’t care that tOSU went 12-1 and won the B10; we don’t care that OU went 12-1, won the B12, avenged their only loss; we don’t care that bama has the same record but loss their conf. That is a really hard sell to 90% of the country.

I love how Bama fans love pointing out that ND doesn’t have to play this week; yet last year it was no problem for Bama to stay home.

I love how everyone points to ND schedule, forget the part that they played 10 P5 games compared to SEC and ACC teams 9. And their non P5 games were against Navy and a MAC team. Not sunbelt teams and FCS teams. Don’t worry about the fact that ND plays 5 ACC teams, but their schedule sucks.... ok well if theirs does... Clemson’s does too.

I’ve always been for expanding the playoffs to 8 while giving ConfChamps automatics...

But the idea floated this week may be even better.

Do away with divisions and conf Champ games.... moves army Navy to this week and have an 8 team playoff starting next week....
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12734 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:31 am to
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I mean be better than 12-1 conference champs (if this scenario happens)? That's a damn good year. 12-1 conference champs should be seen in most cases as superior to 12-1 non champs. I understand if Bama makes it this year for sure if they lose this weekend, but doesn't that tell us they aren't the best team? Losing on a neutral site to me says they aren't the best team in the country, so them not being in wouldn't leave the "best team" out.


Coming from a fan of a team that already got in without winning or even playing for their championship. OSU fans the most entitled in the land
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12734 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:34 am to
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if SEC is so good and competitive, why does Alabama rarely lose. lol LSU is one of the best SEC programs and has lost 8 times in a row to Alabama. if your team is playing truly great teams on a regular basis, shouldn't it lose more?

I think the fact that Clemson has played 4 different ACC teams in the title game is evidence the league is more competitive.



I swear you have to be a 12 yo girl. If you actually think playing a 5 loss team in your championship game makes your league more competitive you are either the biggest troll on this board or are just clueless.

Go Pitt
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12734 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:38 am to
The truth is the ACC is a joke even more so this year. Last year a Hurts led team exposed CU post Watson and it will be worse this year.

Little tilgirl wants to talk about being competitive and thinks a Pitt team would be in our league but yet her little kittens gave up 900+ yards to 2 QBs that are both on middle of the SEC division teams. I am not sure the kittens deserve a seat at the table this year.

I truly doubt there is a P5 league that Clemson outside of the ACC would go undefeated in
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 6:40 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12734 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:55 am to
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o the Original Post.. I do think a 2 SEC scenario this year would cause some major playoff reconfiguring. This would be the first time that you are leaving 3 P5 confs out; but more importantly you would be leaving 2 confs out with arguably better records and accomplishments than a team you put in. You are strictly just saying you want one team in and not the others.



So you think OSU beating a 4 loss Northwestern to win their CG but yet losing to a 6 win Purdue is a better 12-1 record then UA at 12-1 only losing to UGA who the committee says is one of the 4 beat teams in the country. If so your narrative is naive and foolish.

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I love how everyone points to ND schedule, forget the part that they played 10 P5 games compared to SEC and ACC teams 9. And their non P5 games were against Navy and a MAC team. Not sunbelt teams and FCS teams. Don’t worry about the fact that ND plays 5 ACC teams, but their schedule sucks.... ok well if theirs does... Clemson’s does too.


Do you not watch football. Some of you get so caught up on P5 tags need to actually look at these teams. But what you are saying we should give ND credit for beating ACC teams that have 6 losses, 6 losses, 7 losses, and 10 losses or to a 7 loss USC team. I do not care what P5 G5 or division you play in if you are a bad team you are just that a bad team.

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I’ve always been for expanding the playoffs to 8 while giving ConfChamps automatics...


This demonstrates to me you do not watch CFB at all. Based on what you and many others have suggested fail to grasp the concept of the national champion should be the best team in the country. Instead you would be ok come Sunday that a 1 loss, 3 loss, 3 loss, 4 loss, and a 5 loss team could be playing for a NC. Higher education at its finest. Maybe next you will get the YMCA to sponsor the league and everyone will get a medal.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5336 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:06 am to
No thins demonstrates you want a pass every year. And you don’t understand any of the politics behind it. I do t care that Bama blew out an extremely down sec west all year. You have no clue!
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:23 am to
If Bama loses SEC title game; I think committee rejects Bama this time around even though Bama is clearly one of the best 4 teams this year. Many folks within college football have Bama fatigue, and if given any opening, they'll have reason to let that Bama fatigued flow...

Plus, good fortune doesn't normally follow Bama teams that are ranked #1 throughout regular season or #1 right before bowl/playoffs. Bama usually puts it all together when coming up from behind #1. This was so in Bama's past with "The Bear", and I think 2009 Bama is Saban's only Bama team to win title, while ranked #1 during last game. Hmmmm.....let me check and then I'll make a list to chew on....

------ Bama's last 8 National titles won ------

Bama ranked behind #1 late
1978 #2 Bama -vs- #1 Penn St
1979 #4 Bama -vs- #6 Ark
1992 #2 Bama -vs- #1 Miami
2011 #2 Bama -vs- #1 LSU
2012 #2 Bama -vs- #1 Notre Dame
2015 #2 Bama -vs- #1 Clemson
2017 #4 Bama -vs- #3 Georgia
Bama is 7-0 when ranked below #1

Bama ranked #1 late
2009 #1 Bama -vs- #2 Texas
(But #2 Bama was behind #1 Florida before game)
2013 #1 Bama -vs- #4 Auburn
2014 #1 Bama -vs- #4 Ohio St.
2016 #1 Bama -vs- #2 Clemson
Bama is 1-3 when ranked #1 late

In above games, Bama had a chance for 11 titles late, but 3 of the 4 times Bama was ranked #1 heading into the final stretch, Bama came up short in those scenarios. Historically, Bama's remaining opponents this season have to love this!!! Maybe Bama would be best served to have Georgia win SEC title game, but anything is possible, Bama could overcome historical-norms this season. Sure hope so, undefeated is very difficult these days and it would be one heck of an accomplishment for this Bama team.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12734 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:28 am to
Poor little puppy you fail to grasp what the cfb playoffs are about. Maybe you should go read their mission which is the 4 best teams. Do I understand politics may affect it yes but that does not make it right because again it is suppose to be the 4 best teams plain and simple.

Down west division yet the 3rd best team in the West skull dragged the best in the east. In he future when you try an articulate an arguement use common sense. It is really not that hard

And for the record if UA gets beat tomorrow and we stay home I am fine with that just I would have been last year. It is just a game man not life
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:53 am to
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if SEC and ACC sucks is so good why has Clemson owned the rivalry with SC




Because you are playing South Carolinia? What is your record vs Alabama lately?
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:57 am to
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I do t care that Bama blew out an extremely down sec west all year. You have no clue!




Why are Georgia fans so dumb?

SEC West teams ranked in top 25: 4

SEC East Teams ranked in top 25: 4

It is the same. How is the West 'down'?
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