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re: A 7-5 program fired a 7-5 coach and hired a 7-5 coach

Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:18 am to
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
1612 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:18 am to
Its a bad time right now to try to hire a coach. The ones at most peoples top of lists are going to be in the playoffs and aren't leaving right now.
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
2507 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:19 am to
Nick Saban won 6-7 games each year at Mich St from 1996-1998. Went 10-2 in 1999.

Maybe aTm is just getting Elko a year early.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
3497 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:30 am to
If the fiasco with Stoops is any indication A&M has bigger problems than who the HC is. It looks to me like your AD is a cuck and the big money boosters are running the program.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8320 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:32 am to
So what you’re saying is…

Hiring guys that are known as really good coordinators can be a great decision.

And learning lessons from the past, hiring someone who is the opposite as Fisher is what A&M should have done.

Ok, makes sense to me.
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2006 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:40 am to
quote:

If the fiasco with Stoops is any indication A&M has bigger problems than who the HC is. It looks to me like your AD is a cuck and the big money boosters are running the program.
or, worse ...

The BOD is taking their guidance from the opinions of Texags and their minions over the opinion of the ... "Athletic Director."
Posted by Boomer Sooner 1890
Member since Jul 2021
487 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:58 am to
MurphyGator posted and I questioned him about his post. You decided to chime in with a pretty useless post and I made the mistake of addressing it. My mistake as you're continually one of the dimmer bulbs in this barely lit room.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8320 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:01 am to
Yeah, you’d probably not want to try to defend your logic there…
Posted by Flying DeLorean
Member since Aug 2021
322 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:04 am to
None of these mouth breathers care to consider rational and reasonable points. Solid analysis on your part though. I agree.
Posted by CasualFan12
Member since Nov 2022
384 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:05 am to
Is the Aggie really going to try and compare Venables and Sark to Elko? Lol. I guess they’re trying to rekindle that Jimbo magic by hiring his DC. Lol
Posted by Monsusta
#1 Rant User 2023-24
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:10 am to
This is it...poor aggy

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Posted by CasualFan12
Member since Nov 2022
384 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:14 am to
The rich Aggie can buy whatever they want. Apparently a Jimbo retread DC is the man they targeted all along! Stoops was a smoke screen because they didn’t want anyone to come in and scoop up Elmo. Not only are they rich, they’re also really smart. I understand though. They’re trying to rekindle that Jimbo magic.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8320 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:15 am to
No, I’m not even comparing the coaches.

I’m just saying that most schools hire good coordinators or coaches who have had success in weaker conferences.
Posted by Boomer Sooner 1890
Member since Jul 2021
487 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Yeah, you’d probably not want to try to defend your logic there…


Okay, dipshit. I'll "defend" your statement that you decided to chime in when I'm asking MurphyGator who OU should have hired.

quote:

So what you’re saying is…

Hiring guys that are known as really good coordinators can be a great decision.

And learning lessons from the past, hiring someone who is the opposite as Fisher is what A&M should have done.

Ok, makes sense to me.


Whether or not a coordinator works out as a head coach is largely a crapshoot. OU has a history of hiring coordinators, so MurphyGator acting like OU isn't a great job because they couldn't hire a bigger name than one of the most successful DCs in recent college history made no sense.

Your simpleton statements like "most teams hire great coordinators or HC from lower divisions" is as common sense. You've added nothing by sticking your nose into my question to MurphyGator. It'd be like me wandering by while you and another dumbfrick are arguing whether you should have a Coke or Bud Light and I said "you know, they are both liquids." True, but not at all the point and adds nothing.

An up and coming coordinator is a better hire than a retread washed up Jimbo Fisher. All aggy cared about was "muh sitting natty coach from FSU" and failed actually look at his FSU tenure.

Now, if you want to attempt to the actual discussion I was trying to have, you can substitute in for MurphyGator and adopt his position: OU isn't a great job because they hired Venables, who is not a splash hire.

Then you can respond to my question: If one the most successful DCs in recent college history isn't a "splash hire", who should OU have hired?

Or, you can back to popping into discussions with irrelevant comments.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
52868 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:35 am to
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A 7-5 program fired a 7-5 coach and hired a 7-5 coach

This is just funny.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8320 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Then you can respond to my question: If one the most successful DCs in recent college history isn't a "splash hire", who should OU have hired?


OU should have hired Venables. Not a splash hire, but a solid choice.

A&M hiring Jimbo was the splash hire, and it didn’t work out. So A&M course corrected with a solid choice also.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
4682 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:42 am to
well
the ad did say that it wasnt a 8 and 4 job...
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1399 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I guess they’re trying to rekindle that Jimbo magic by hiring his DC. Lol



Keeping Bjork as AD screwed the coaching search from the get go.

Elko is sloppy thirds and any coach worth his salt will use that fact during recruiting.
Posted by GamerAg
Member since Dec 2010
2039 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:45 am to
You guys are idiots, no surprise.

Duke lost their QB for half the season, and he was playing hobbled before that.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1399 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:53 am to
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If the fiasco with Stoops is any indication A&M has bigger problems than who the HC is. It looks to me like your AD is a cuck and the big money boosters are running the program.


Watching the announcement that Jimbo was fired made it obvious to me that Bjork took absolutely no responsibility for the contract extension and terms of that contract.

With Bjork remaining as AD, Aggie land will suffer yet another stretch of bad road.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 10:54 am
Posted by Boomer Sooner 1890
Member since Jul 2021
487 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:53 am to
quote:

OU should have hired Venables. Not a splash hire, but a solid choice.

A&M hiring Jimbo was the splash hire, and it didn’t work out. So A&M course corrected with a solid choice also.


This is all you ever should have posted in this thread.
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