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re: 3 Perm Opponents Question

Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:07 pm to
It'll only take about 1/2 the time before some'll be able to put the 3 perm list together.
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1173 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:18 pm to
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Should Texas give up Arkansas so A&M can play them?

It’s not Texas’ game to “give up.” That’s the kind of Longhorn arrogance people dislike. A&M has a longer history with Arkansas than Texas does.

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Someone has to play Missouri.

Exactly, and Texas has faced Missouri more often than A&M has. So Texas should take Missouri, and A&M can keep the Southwest Classic with Arkansas.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19638 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:28 am to
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’s not Texas’ game to “give up.” That’s the kind of Longhorn arrogance people dislike. A&M has a longer history with Arkansas than Texas does.

Everyone and their mother has said for 3 years that Texas was going to have Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Arkansas as our 3 perm rivals.. Literally everyone. On top of that, I specifically stated that it wasn't my place to decide.. apparently got your panties in a wad over it, but I do have a solution.

Let the Hogs decide.

Hogs, who would you rather play each year? Texas or Texas A&M?
Posted by MayorMkcheezou
Missouri
Member since Nov 2023
278 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:34 am to
All I hope is we get South Carolina because that’s probably been our most consistent good game year in year out, no matter the record either way they always seem to be entertaining games
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:40 am to
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One factor is Bama telling the SEC they wont accept LSU since they are getting Tenn and Auburn,


You mean, like the last 60 years?
Posted by Mosnowman
Josey Wales Country
Member since Sep 2012
1230 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:49 am to
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I think they are trying to maximize the number of rivalry games.. but one school in particular creates a big problem in solving that puzzle.


Only school that has consistently been a problem in every Conference they were a member of is texass....destroyed the Southwest Conference...Big 12..and now the poison apple is rotting in the SEC...



Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1173 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:43 am to
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Everyone and their mother has said for 3 years that Texas was going to have Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Arkansas as our 3 perm rivals.. Literally everyone.


You just proved my point. The assumption that it is already settled that Texas will automatically get OU, A&M, and Arkansas is exactly the arrogance I am talking about.

Everybody in this new SEC is sacrificing historic rivalries. Texas is not entitled to keep all of theirs intact while others give theirs up. That is the double standard people are pushing back against.

Pointing that out is not me getting my panties in a wad. It is simply recognizing that Texas does not get to dictate how the entire league sets its rivalries.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
4857 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:08 am to
Well Bama found an escape clause finally I guess with the new setup.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10625 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:37 am to
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One factor is Bama telling the SEC they wont accept LSU since they are getting Tenn and Auburn,



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You mean, like the last 60 years?



yeah I don't get where that argument is coming from either.

Alabama has played all 3 of those teams every year since 1963, so having those 3 as permanents wouldn't change anything.


Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:09 pm to
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UGA, USCe, UF, UK


500 miles to our nearest “rival.” Oh, hell no.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10625 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Everybody in this new SEC is sacrificing historic rivalries


this is the best I've come up with
obviously not perfect, but I tried to keep in tact as many long standing rivalries as I could.



with this rotation, you're left with a total of 6 matchups that have been played fewer than 50 times.

Only 2 of them involving teams that have spent more than 50 years in the same conference:

Auburn / Ole Miss (48 games) - not a ton of pre-'92 expansion meetings

Vandy / Miss State (24 games)

the rest are simply because teams haven't been in same conference as each other very long, so would have happened no matter how you shook out the permanents.

So. Carolina / Kentucky (36 games) - not a lot of history prior to Caorlina joining in '92

Oklahoma / A&M (30 games) - Oklahoma's next most played matchup is only 11 games vs Arkansas

So. Carolina / Missouri - (15 games) - other than OU, Missouri hasn't played any other current SEC member more than 16 times, so they were always going to be an issue.

Arkansas / Missouri (16 games) - from outside looking in, both fanbases seem to have embraced this game as a new rivalry





Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19638 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:24 pm to
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You just proved my point. The assumption that it is already settled that Texas will automatically get OU, A&M, and Arkansas is exactly the arrogance I am talking about.

Making an assumption based on what everyone else thinks is arrogance?

What is arrogant about listening to others opinions?
Arrogance would be me saying, "everyone else is full of shite and you should listen to me and my picks, not all of those others.."

I was trying to solve a puzzle. In order to solve a puzzle, you sometimes have to make assumptions and then see how it works out.. Arrogance would be me not even considering Missouri as an opponent for Texas, which I didn't do..

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Everybody in this new SEC is sacrificing historic rivalries. Texas is not entitled to keep all of theirs intact while others give theirs up. That is the double standard people are pushing back against.

Almost half the league might be getting all 3 of their most played SEC opponents.. you just spew bullshite all the time?

OKLAHOMA
• 120 vs Texas *
• 97 vs Missouri *
• 31 vs Texas A&M *
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• 15 vs Arkansas

ALABAMA
• 107 vs Mississippi State *
• 106 vs Tennessee *
• 89 vs Auburn *
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• 89 vs LSU

AUBURN
• 129 vs Georgia *
• 97 vs Mississippi State *
• 89 vs Alabama *
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• 84 vs Florida
• 58 vs LSU

OLE MISS
• 119 vs Mississippi State *
• 112 vs LSU *
• 96 vs Vanderbilt *
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• 70 vs Alabama
• 69 vs Arkansas

TENNESSEE
• 120 vs Kentucky *
• 118 vs Vanderbilt *
• 107 vs Alabama *
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• 66 vs Ole Miss

TEXAS
• 120 TX vs Oklahoma *
• 119 TX vs Texas A&M *
• 80 TX vs Arkansas *
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• 24 TX vs Mizzou

VANDERBILT
• 118 vs Tennessee *
• 98 vs Ole Miss *
• 97 vs Kentucky *
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• 86 vs Alabama

That doesn't mean it will happen, but it might.. I am solving a puzzle and trying to maximize the number or rivalries kept.. games played.. it's a math equation. Despite what you might think, I am not some arrogant pompous prick trying to screw A&M while solving this puzzle.

Who should Oklahoma play if they don't play A&M? A&M is their 3rd most played SEC opponent.

Why should Arkansas play Texas A&M when they want to play Texas? That's their decision to make. If they want Texas A&M, that's who they will play as that piece of the puzzle is pretty simple and doesn't effect other pieces as much.

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It is simply recognizing that Texas does not get to dictate how the entire league sets its rivalries.

I'm trying to solve a fricking puzzle you dumbass.
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