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re: 2nd Half: 11:30 Bama 55@ #12 Auburn 70

Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:40 pm to
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Why is everyone shitting on Avery?


Because he just got shite on by a depleted, under sized team of less talented players who wanted to win more than his team and got after their asses.

Or would you rather just look at the consistent under performing on the road?

Or the losses to shitty teams like Vanderbilt and Ole Miss?

Plenty of reasons. He’s not a good coach just because he recruited Colin Sexton and we’re almost in the tourney. Anyone with an understanding of Bama’s basketball history will realize what Avery has done is not the pinnacle.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:41 pm to
Pearl built a team.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37072 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:41 pm to
Johnson has more quality recruits on the way so he’s not a lost cause but the inconsistency issues is his main problem.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22741 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:42 pm to
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less talented players


Yeah not sure about that one.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:42 pm to
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Pearl built a team.


To be fair, his team had some head scratching, inconsistent, frustrating moments last year. The team wasn't built in one season.

However, games like tonight are pathetic and unacceptable on our end.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:44 pm to
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team of less talented players


Do you understand basketball?

Auburn's players shoot the ball better.

Auburn's players pass the ball better.

Auburn's players space the floor better.

Auburn's players rebound better.

Auburn's players defend better.

How are they less talented?
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28908 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:45 pm to
I didn't see much team work from Alabama. It's like they gave the ball to sexton and waited for something to happen.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83827 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:45 pm to
Who said Avery has taken Alabama to the pinnacle?

It was a good hire. Alabama gets more talent and exposure now. Hell, I don't even give a shite if he gets fired after a couple years of barely getting the team in the tourney.

If a better coach is available and willing to come to Tuscaloosa, cool. Avery still would have been a good hire, IMO.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33415 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:45 pm to
Bama hung in there most of the game.

Serious question, as good as Sexton is, does the team play better when he’s on the court less?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:46 pm to
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I didn't see much team work from Alabama. It's like they gave the ball to sexton and waited for something to happen.


Most of that was Auburn's zone and Avery's terrible, shitty, miserable non-adjustments to it.
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Because he just got shite on by a depleted, under sized team of less talented players who wanted to win more than his team and got after their asses.

Or would you rather just look at the consistent under performing on the road?

Or the losses to shitty teams like Vanderbilt and Ole Miss?

Plenty of reasons. He’s not a good coach just because he recruited Colin Sexton and we’re almost in the tourney. Anyone with an understanding of Bama’s basketball history will realize what Avery has done is not the pinnacle.


frick me after EVERY game

the only team in this entire conference with consistency is the team we just played

everyone else is eating each other alive

if we get in the tournament after this long as drought it's a helluva job by Avery
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:46 pm to
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Serious question, as good as Sexton is, does the team play better when he’s on the court less?


No
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28908 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:46 pm to
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To be fair, his team had some head scratching, inconsistent, frustrating moments last year. The team wasn't built in one season.

The biggest difference is defense. We had zero defense last year and somehow we're stopping teams this year. We scored a lot last year but couldn't stop anyone.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:49 pm to
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The biggest difference is defense. We had zero defense last year and somehow we're stopping teams this year. We scored a lot last year but couldn't stop anyone.


Guys got better individually and as team defenders. A bunch of new guys don't generally play good team defense. We (until tonight) had made massive strides since the non-conference defensively. Tonight was just a collapse.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:51 pm to
Most amazing stat...

Auburn 41 rebounds

Alabama 35 rebounds
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:51 pm to
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Why is the score so off?


The OP quit like he always does. He's a little bitch
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

To be fair, his team had some head scratching, inconsistent, frustrating moments last year. The team wasn't built in one season.


That team also started 4 freshmen, including a 17 yr old that went from HS to playing an actual game for Auburn literally in a week.
That team also only had one true upperclassmen on the entire team, TJ Lang who was a very average player. Any other "upperclassmen" was a transfer (grad, JUCO, and regular) and were in only their first or second season in the program.

You're going to get a lot of head scratching moments with a roster like that as your young team grows.


We're still one of the younger teams in the country, but now our players have tons of experience and developed incredible chemistry with each other and you can see the difference is night and day.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:07 pm to
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That team also started 4 freshmen, including a 17 yr old that went from HS to playing an actual game for Auburn literally in a week. That team also only had one true upperclassmen on the entire team, TJ Lang who was a very average player. Any other "upperclassmen" was a transfer (grad, JUCO, and regular) and were in only their first or second season in the program. You're going to get a lot of head scratching moments with a roster like that as your young team grows. We're still one of the younger teams in the country, but now our players have tons of experience and developed incredible chemistry with each other and you can see the difference is night and day.


Yup - exactly my point Mr. Bowl.

There are still certain games that just aren't acceptable. Tonight is one of them on our end. It's nearly the end of the regular season, our guys shouldn't be having deer in the headlights looks for the last 10 minutes of a game. But, you are going to have ups and downs when a team is made up of kids who are doing everything for the first time.

Doesn't make it any less frustrating.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:32 pm to
But too bad for y'all Sefton is going to declare for the draft, which will set y'all back as far as building experience and chemistry as a team.

Him being yalls PG means it'll mess up the chemistry more than any other position too.
Pearl's decision to start Jared Harper over Ronnie Johnson right out of rhe gate last year is paying hige dividends this season IMO. Ronnie Johnson was a grad transfer from Purdue with tons of high level P5 starting experience, a very talented and good PG. Ronnie Johnson honestly was probably one of the best PGs Auburn has had in the last decade, but making Harper the guy built tons of chemistry for us as a whole team, and it allowed Harper to build the confidence, and become the floor general and team leader that a PG needs to be to have an elite team.


Who will even be yalls PG next season without Sexton? Avery Jr?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:35 pm to
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But too bad for y'all Sefton is going to declare for the draft, which will set y'all back as far as building experience and chemistry as a team.


Yea - but I honestly think it would be a bigger blow if Hall left. I mean, part of that is we all understood that Sexton is gone, so nobody has thought through next season with any expectation that he would be the PG.

quote:

Who will even be yalls PG next season without Sexton? Avery Jr?


I think we'll see Avery Jr some, Butler some and possibly Herb some. Herb is raw and young but he's shown really good court vision and ability to read things from the top on pick and roll action.

If only Sexton leaves then the overall team chemistry angle should be a positive for next year. If it's not, that's gonna be on Avery. I don't really an expectation either way to be honest.
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