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re: 270 yards passing is why A&M lost!
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:32 am to Projectpat
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:32 am to Projectpat
Lol at a&m fans, I been telling them you have to play defense in this league. Especially with their air rade offense
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:38 am to TeLeFaWx
We got inside the RZ 3 times. Two times combined the run and pass (finishing with the run) to score TD's. The third time we tried to run on 1st down with a QB draw that should have worked but Manziel hesitated, missed his hole, and then ran right into the defender. 2nd Down was a pass play call that LSU defended perfectly and nearly got a sack or an int. It's hard to know if that was Manziel making a bad read or if it was just a bad call. 3rd Down and long you had a great play call for a pass to the end zone to an open receiver but Manziel just couldn't make the throw.
If the standard expected is 100% TD's every time A&M gets to the end zone then absolutely they failed. That's not realistic though.
I agree with the general premise that you must be able to run the ball when you need to. I also agree you must be able to run the ball in the Red Zone. The thing is though that A&M is doing exactly that or at least trying to. On the flip side A&M stopped LSU running 3 times in a row inside the 10 that caused them to have to kick a FG as well. Running the ball in the Red Zone is hardly a guarantee of success. The only thing better than running the ball is being able to run or pass with equal effectiveness and I think that is what A&M is trying to do.
If I see A&M come out and throw the ball 3 times unsuccessfully inside the 20 then I will give your point some credence, that just isn't what is happening.
If the standard expected is 100% TD's every time A&M gets to the end zone then absolutely they failed. That's not realistic though.
I agree with the general premise that you must be able to run the ball when you need to. I also agree you must be able to run the ball in the Red Zone. The thing is though that A&M is doing exactly that or at least trying to. On the flip side A&M stopped LSU running 3 times in a row inside the 10 that caused them to have to kick a FG as well. Running the ball in the Red Zone is hardly a guarantee of success. The only thing better than running the ball is being able to run or pass with equal effectiveness and I think that is what A&M is trying to do.
If I see A&M come out and throw the ball 3 times unsuccessfully inside the 20 then I will give your point some credence, that just isn't what is happening.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:43 am to aggressor
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On the flip side A&M stopped LSU running 3 times in a row inside the 10 that caused them to have to kick a FG as well.
This is what LSU fans have a problem with. Every team has stopped us running 3 times inside the 10. The problem is the team knows it's coming, and we pack everyone in tight then run into the back of our O-line. Les Miles coaches scared and plays for field goals. That will hurt us when we play good teams.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:51 am to aggressor
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The thing is though that A&M is doing exactly that or at least trying to.
The thing is, they aren't ever trying to do anything other than what the defense lets them. At that point in the game(the 1st and 10 at the 16), the LSU defense knew it didn't have to protect the pass as much, and A&M was dared to throw.
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The only thing better than running the ball is being able to run or pass with equal effectiveness and I think that is what A&M is trying to do.
No. Again, they are trying to do whatever the defense lets them. Kliff's own words. They aren't dictating anything. That is why the run is getting abandoned in the second half against defenses once they figure out how to adjust to the run game and pin their ears back.
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If I see A&M come out and throw the ball 3 times unsuccessfully inside the 20 then I will give your point some credence, that just isn't what is happening.
1st and 10 at LSU 16 Johnny Manziel rush for 2 yards to the LSU 14.
2nd and 8 at LSU 14 Johnny Manziel pass incomplete.
3rd and 8 at LSU 14 Johnny Manziel pass incomplete to Uzoma Nwachukwu.
Passing 2 out of 3 times and a QB draw(I can't remember if that was a scramble or a draw) isn't what you're describing.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:00 pm to cyde
Johnny Football ran it 17 times @ 1.6 yds per carry.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:07 pm to Gcockboi
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Lol at a&m fans, I been telling them you have to play defense in this league. Especially with their air rade offense
Did you watch the game cock boy?
Defense played well enough for us to win the LSU and Florida game. In every game but one this year, our defense has put us in positions to win games.
Our issue against teams like LSU and Flordia is offensive playcalling and execution.
We need a little more balance and we need to stop making freshman mistakes. Both will be resolved in time.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
Here is that series:
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Look at the first play which was a QB draw. Manziel has a walk in TD but inexplicably goes right instead of left right into the defender. It was a perfect RUN call. On 2nd Down LSU sends a blitz up the middle and is literally on top on Manziel almost as soon as he gets the ball and he makes a poor throw to get rid of it that almost gets picked. Manziel should have picked up the blitz and called an audible. Still, that was 2nd and 8 which isn't an ideal running down (if he had run it would have been a loss). Then you have 3rd and 8 where they run a quick out pattern to EZ right at the pylon. Manziel just makes a bad throw here or else it is 6 points.
That series was all on the Freshman QB. Maybe he got too excited or whatever but his execution was poor on all 3 plays while at least 2 of the 3 plays should have scored a TD.
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Look at the first play which was a QB draw. Manziel has a walk in TD but inexplicably goes right instead of left right into the defender. It was a perfect RUN call. On 2nd Down LSU sends a blitz up the middle and is literally on top on Manziel almost as soon as he gets the ball and he makes a poor throw to get rid of it that almost gets picked. Manziel should have picked up the blitz and called an audible. Still, that was 2nd and 8 which isn't an ideal running down (if he had run it would have been a loss). Then you have 3rd and 8 where they run a quick out pattern to EZ right at the pylon. Manziel just makes a bad throw here or else it is 6 points.
That series was all on the Freshman QB. Maybe he got too excited or whatever but his execution was poor on all 3 plays while at least 2 of the 3 plays should have scored a TD.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:35 pm to Projectpat
Don't be that idiot that lumps the whole fan base together as one. I'm a miles fan and I'll take an ugly win any day over a loss
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:37 pm to PortCityTiger82
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I'm a miles fan and I'll take an ugly win any day over a loss
yup
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:39 pm to Bob Ag
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Our issue against teams like LSU and Flordia is offensive playcalling and execution. We need a little more balance and we need to stop making freshman mistakes. Both will be resolved in time
Texas A&M is not going to beat the big boys of the SEC with that offense unless you have a once in a lifetime player like Tim Tebow or Cam Newton under center. Johnny Football is good, but he's not good enough to scheme the entire offense around. A&M has 2 very good RBs, I was surprised that A&M didn't run more with them when LSU went to a 3 man front.
Sumlin will not win this conference without a running game.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:48 pm to Chimlim
Heres my take part two: UF finished last year 8th in the SEC in rushing (out of 12 teams) and we barely scraped together a winning record at 7-6...I repeated over and over on the Gator board that we had to finish at least 4th in the SEC to see a big improvement...well this year we are 3rd (out of 14 teams).
Defense wins hardware though. AU in 2010 was a little different because Camster was a special athlete and AU had just enough defense to win.If u look at every year though its the defense that puts you in the SECCG winners circle.
Defense wins hardware though. AU in 2010 was a little different because Camster was a special athlete and AU had just enough defense to win.If u look at every year though its the defense that puts you in the SECCG winners circle.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:50 pm to Chimlim
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A&M has 2 very good RBs, I was surprised that A&M didn't run more with them when LSU went to a 3 man front.
Just rub it in why don't you.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:52 pm to BigAggie06
You know. This shite was frustrating and annoying at first, but now it's getting funny. There are some stupid motherfrickers up in here. Here's a recap from my perspective on this thread, and generally from the Rant in the last few weeks:
Rantards: A&M lost to LSU because they pass too much. That shitty, stupid, junior high crap will NEVER work in the SEC. You need to go ahead and fire Sumlin. He fricked. Y'all fricked. Give up now.
Aggies: A&M lost because of turnovers, penalties, and shitty kicking
Rantards: Nice Moral Victory. Johnny Jizz Jar sucked. LSU D is the shite. Stop passing so fricking much and get a fricking defense. Fire Sumlin now, get some fricking cheerleaders, and quit starting all these threads about Texas. AND RUN THE frickING FOOTBALL.
Aggies: We already said it. We may have been more effective by adding more run plays, but our game plan was good enough to win the game. We just didn't get points and turned the ball over too many times. The D played pretty well.
Rantards: You didn't win because SEC defenses, bitch. That offense sucks and will never work against our SUPER DUPER frickING AWESOME DEFENSES. You can't pass the ball in football. The only passing a real football team does is gas and the plate. Big Boy. frick you. Jizz Jar. Nazi cult weirdo gays. I hate conference expansion.
Aggies: We should have mixed in more running. Pro teams do a mix of spread. See a bunch of NFL teams. But, that's not why we lost. The 5 turnovers are mostly to blame.
Rantards: You have got to play DEFENSE in this league.
Aggies: Our defense didn't do too bad considering the offense gift-wrapped several bad situations with all the turnovers.
Rantards: Johnny fricktard is gonna get MURDERED in the SEC. They will have to cart his mangled body off in buckets. You Faggys have no defense and will never amount to anything. You are the number 2 in the state of Texas and you will ALWAYS be mediocre, just like you have always been. LSU beat the frick out of you jizz drinkers. That was the worst beat down in the history of the frickING UNIVERSE. PREPARE YOUR ANUSES. Bama will beat A&M by no less than 85. Bet the fricking farm. You have never even SEEN a team this good. Not even in the frickING NFL. Johnny Jizz better say his prayers and get his casket ordered. I don't expect him to last two plays against these SUPER HUMAN SEC BADASS MOTHERfrickERS. Bitch gonn get KNOCKED THE frick OUT.
Aggies: But LSU only won by 5 and we had a bunch of turnovers and shitty kicking.
Rantards: frickING MORAL VICTORIES. You got your asses fricked hard with a 6 and ½ foot concrete dildo. Johnny fricktard SUCK DICKs and will never complete another pass in football ever again. WE KILLED THAT MOTHERfrickER. Your players a not even on the same PLANET as our SEC badasses. YOU WILL GET frickED UP. Anuses. Prepare them.
Rantards: A&M lost to LSU because they pass too much. That shitty, stupid, junior high crap will NEVER work in the SEC. You need to go ahead and fire Sumlin. He fricked. Y'all fricked. Give up now.
Aggies: A&M lost because of turnovers, penalties, and shitty kicking
Rantards: Nice Moral Victory. Johnny Jizz Jar sucked. LSU D is the shite. Stop passing so fricking much and get a fricking defense. Fire Sumlin now, get some fricking cheerleaders, and quit starting all these threads about Texas. AND RUN THE frickING FOOTBALL.
Aggies: We already said it. We may have been more effective by adding more run plays, but our game plan was good enough to win the game. We just didn't get points and turned the ball over too many times. The D played pretty well.
Rantards: You didn't win because SEC defenses, bitch. That offense sucks and will never work against our SUPER DUPER frickING AWESOME DEFENSES. You can't pass the ball in football. The only passing a real football team does is gas and the plate. Big Boy. frick you. Jizz Jar. Nazi cult weirdo gays. I hate conference expansion.
Aggies: We should have mixed in more running. Pro teams do a mix of spread. See a bunch of NFL teams. But, that's not why we lost. The 5 turnovers are mostly to blame.
Rantards: You have got to play DEFENSE in this league.
Aggies: Our defense didn't do too bad considering the offense gift-wrapped several bad situations with all the turnovers.
Rantards: Johnny fricktard is gonna get MURDERED in the SEC. They will have to cart his mangled body off in buckets. You Faggys have no defense and will never amount to anything. You are the number 2 in the state of Texas and you will ALWAYS be mediocre, just like you have always been. LSU beat the frick out of you jizz drinkers. That was the worst beat down in the history of the frickING UNIVERSE. PREPARE YOUR ANUSES. Bama will beat A&M by no less than 85. Bet the fricking farm. You have never even SEEN a team this good. Not even in the frickING NFL. Johnny Jizz better say his prayers and get his casket ordered. I don't expect him to last two plays against these SUPER HUMAN SEC BADASS MOTHERfrickERS. Bitch gonn get KNOCKED THE frick OUT.
Aggies: But LSU only won by 5 and we had a bunch of turnovers and shitty kicking.
Rantards: frickING MORAL VICTORIES. You got your asses fricked hard with a 6 and ½ foot concrete dildo. Johnny fricktard SUCK DICKs and will never complete another pass in football ever again. WE KILLED THAT MOTHERfrickER. Your players a not even on the same PLANET as our SEC badasses. YOU WILL GET frickED UP. Anuses. Prepare them.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:01 pm to KaiserSoze99
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but our game plan was good enough to win the game. We just didn't get points and turned the ball over too many times
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:07 pm to KaiserSoze99
Kaiser
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:09 pm to Chimlim
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:12 pm to KaiserSoze99
Holy crap
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:14 pm to Chimlim
The 4th quarter rushing yards were 111 to 1.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:38 pm to RobNation
LSU lost almost every stat except turnovers. This game is really easy to figure out.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:53 pm to t - cam
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LSU lost almost every stat except turnovers. This game is really easy to figure out.
And points. Don't forget that one.
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