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re: 247: Former UGA player Jalen Carter subject of arrest warrant regarding tragic car crash

Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:18 am to
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:18 am to
2021 Georgia Code
Title 40 - Motor Vehicles and Traffic
Chapter 6 - Uniform Rules of the Road
Article 9 - Speed Restrictions
§ 40-6-186. Racing on Highways or Streets
Universal Citation: GA Code § 40-6-186 (2021)
As used in this Code section, the term:
"Drag race" means the operation of two or more vehicles from a point side by side at accelerated speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other or the operation of one or more vehicles over a common selected course from the same point to the same point for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of such vehicle or vehicles within a certain distance or time limit.
"Racing" means the use of one or more vehicles in an attempt to outgain, outdistance, or prevent another vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another vehicle or vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers overlong-distance driving routes.
No person shall drive any vehicle on a highway in this state in any race, speed competition or contest, drag race or acceleration contest, test of physical endurance, exhibition of speed or acceleration, or for the purpose of making a speed record, and no person shall in any manner participate in any such race, competition of speed, contest of speed, or test or exhibition of speed.
Any person convicted of violating subsection (b) of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
(Ga. L. 1959, p. 303, § 1; Ga. L. 1961, p. 438, §§ 1-4; Code 1933, § 68A-808, enacted by Ga. L. 1975, p. 1582, § 1; Ga. L. 1990, p. 2048, § 5; Ga. L. 2006, p. 449, § 21/HB 1253.)

Cross references.
- Suspension of driver's license for conviction for racing on highways or streets, § 40-5-54.

Penalty for laying drags, § 40-6-251.

JUDICIAL DECISIONS

Section not lacking in clarity.

- Former Code 1933, § 68A-808 set out with reasonable definiteness what acts were prohibited. In re D.B.A., 242 Ga. 40, 247 S.E.2d 843 (1978) (see now O.C.G.A. § 40-6-186).

Races and contests of speed are offenses under drag racing. Perkins v. State, 151 Ga. App. 199, 259 S.E.2d 193 (1979), overruled on other grounds, Chance v. State, 154 Ga. App. 543, 268 S.E.2d 737 (1980).

Only one acting with intention can be convicted of crime.
- Former Code 1933, § 68A-808 (see now O.C.G.A. § 40-6-186) must be construed in pari materia with other criminal sections and one can never be convicted of a crime unless one acts with intention, or criminal negligence. Snell v. McCoy, 135 Ga. App. 832, 219 S.E.2d 482 (1975).

Joint liability of racers.
- Basis for imposing liability upon a racer for the damages resulting from a collision involving only a co-racer's vehicle is that two or more persons engaged in a common enterprise are jointly liable for wrongful acts done in connection with the enterprise, at least when the enterprise is an unlawful one, in which case all are answerable for any injury done by any one of them, and even assuming that the evidence would not authorize a finding that the defendant and another were technically "racing" as defined in O.C.G.A. § 40-6-186(a)(2), a "common enterprise" to drive two cars in tandem at excessive speeds and in a reckless manner is as much a tacit "unlawful joint enterprise" to violate the traffic laws of this state as an agreement to engage in "racing." Bellamy v. Edwards, 181 Ga. App. 887, 354 S.E.2d 434 (1987); Kilpatrick v. Foster, 185 Ga. App. 453, 364 S.E.2d 588 (1987), cert. denied, 185 Ga. App. 910, 364 S.E.2d 588 (1988).

Transfer of case involving juveniles to superior court.
- Evidence that a juvenile had a history of using marijuana and other drugs, had used marijuana before the juvenile lost control of a car the juvenile was driving while racing another car on a public street, causing a multi-car collision in which two people died, had challenged other people to automobile races on several occasions, violated the conditions of the juvenile's driver's license by driving with a non-family member, and used drugs after the accident was sufficient to support the juvenile court's judgment that the juvenile was not amenable to treatment in the juvenile court system and that the interests of the juvenile and the community would be better served if the case was transferred to the superior court. In the Interest of W.N.J., 268 Ga. App. 637, 602 S.E.2d 173 (2004).

State's proof against mere occupant of vehicle.
- When an occupant of a vehicle who was neither the driver nor the owner of the vehicle is charged with engaging in a contest of speed, or a race, the state must prove positive wrongful acts against the occupant. It may not rest the state's case simply on proof that the person was an occupant. Snell v. McCoy, 135 Ga. App. 832, 219 S.E.2d 482 (1975).

Evidence sufficient to support conviction.
- Defendants were guilty of racing even though their automobiles were capable of going faster than the speeds observed by the police and the distance between the vehicles stayed basically the same; the officers testified that one was trying to "outrun" the other. Dodd v. State, 205 Ga. App. 472, 422 S.E.2d 313 (1992).

Cited in Cabral v. White, 181 Ga. App. 816, 354 S.E.2d 162 (1987); Eason v. Dozier, 298 Ga. App. 65, 679 S.E.2d 89 (2009).

OPINIONS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

Suspension and retention of licenses of convicted racers.

- Department should continue to suspend and retain drivers' licenses of persons convicted of racing, in accordance with the provisions of former Code 1933, § 68A-808 (see now O.C.G.A. § 40-6-186), and disregard the inconsistent provisions of Ga. L. 1975, p. 1008, § 1 (see now O.C.G.A. Ch. 5, T. 40) which were approved prior to the approval of that section. 1975 Op. Att'y Gen. 75-117.

Official reservation of street for drag-racing purposes.
- Prohibition of drag racing "on a highway in the state" in O.C.G.A. § 40-6-186 does not apply when the drag racing activities take place on a street which has been closed for that purpose. 1983 Op. Att'y Gen. No. U83-53.

City street which has been closed to the public for purposes of an officially sanctioned activity (such as a drag race) ceases to be a "highway" as defined by § 40-1-1(16) (see now O.C.G.A. § 40-1-1(19)). 1983 Op. Att'y Gen. No. U83-53.

RESEARCH REFERENCES

C.J.S.

- 60A C.J.S., Motor Vehicles, § 679.

ALR.
- Excuse for exceeding speed limit for automobiles, 29 A.L.R. 883.

Liability of participant in unauthorized highway race for injury to third person directly caused by other racer, 13 A.L.R.3d 431.

Liability of public authority for injury arising out of automobile race conducted on street or highway, 80 A.L.R.3d 1192.

Criminal liability for street racing (drag racing), 89 A.L.R.6th 565
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:19 am to
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Like it or not, that’s not the case in Tuscaloosa for the Brandon Miller case.



Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Did you read the article at all?

Just the 247 one.
quote:

Then changed his story to he was behind the car, then beside the car.

With 700 horsepower, he finished ahead of the car. I don't doubt that he was behind, then beside.

Did he see the SUV go off the road? With his car, he was where ever he wanted to be when he wanted to be there. Behind. Beside. Ahead.
quote:

Players that weren't there showed up at the scene

The first players at the scene were from the waffle house. Willock died in one players arms.
Several players came to comfort their teammates from other parts of Athens. That's what happens after an accident. The phone tree.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

kengel2

If you believe that they have the necessary evidence to charge Brandon Miller with a crime, and they are just withholding it, then I would encourage you to report the Tuscaloosa DA to every higher authority possible.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:24 am to
Awful look for UGA. Sad.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10673 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:46 am to
quote:

With 700 horsepower, he finished ahead of the car. I don't doubt that he was behind, then beside.


The Expedition was going 104 and Jalen dusted them with his 700 HP? How fast was he going 200?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:49 am to
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The Expedition was going 104

Prior to the accident, the Expedition hit a peak speed of 104.

Jalen was going however fast he wanted to.
If his max speed was 105, it was because that's how fast he wanted to go.
If he hit 125, that's how fast he wanted to go.
If he hit 135, that's how fast he wanted to go.

That is the point with a 700 hp engine. Is there any other point to 700 hp?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:52 am to
How could Jalen Carter possibly afford a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:52 am to
quote:

With 700 horsepower, he finished ahead of the car. I don't doubt that he was behind, then beside.



Didn’t the police find damage to the roof of his car from the power lines scraping it?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:53 am to
quote:

How could Jalen Carter possibly afford a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk


NIL deal with Jeep or a Jeep dealership.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10217 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:55 am to
"Why was he arrested? He didn't wreck." - Tuscaloosa
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10217 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:58 am to
Jalen Carter is going to have his football intro pretending to put on his seatbelt for takeoff.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:23 am to
quote:

quote:
With 700 horsepower, he finished ahead of the car. I don't doubt that he was behind, then beside.


Didn’t the police find damage to the roof of his car from the power lines scraping it?

If he was following the other vehicle, it was because he wanted to follow the other vehicle. In that situation, it would be possible (I doubt the power lines cross the road there, but I don't know).
If they were side by side at the time of the accident, he would have been hundreds of feet ahead before anything like that would have occurred.

It wouldn't shock me if he left them in the dust and didn't see anything (because he could if he wanted to at any time).
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:26 am to
quote:

It wouldn't shock me if he left them in the dust and didn't see anything (because he could if he wanted to at any time).


Except he did see something and knew they had wrecked the second that it happened.

quote:

At first, Jalen Carter told the police he was nearly a mile away when a University of Georgia teammate and a football staff member died in a car crash. Later, Carter said he had been following the car when it wrecked, close enough to see its taillights.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 11:28 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:29 am to
I haven't read that.
And I haven't seen it quoted, yet.

The first people at the scene were UGA football players who arrived first at waffle house.

If I'm racing to waffle house and 5 minutes later the other car hasn't shown up, I'm doubling back.

Maybe he did.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:32 am to
quote:

And, at one point, he acknowledged he was alongside the other car, whose speedometer stuck on impact at 83 mph — double the speed limit.

quote:

Carter, a defensive star for Georgia who is projected as a top pick in this year’s NFL draft, left the crash scene, apparently before the police or emergency medical workers arrived. When he returned an hour and a half later, he gave shifting accounts of the wreck as an Athens police officer questioned him about whether he had been racing the car that crashed


The details of the racing incident aren’t in question anymore. It was caught on camera.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:42 am to
It's good to see the trolls and shite talkers never miss a beat regardless of the situation.
Posted by VOLcanic
Member since May 2009
207 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:58 am to
Good luck convincing meansonny, he’s to the point of arguing against the laws of physics and invoking time travel to defend his team.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123618 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

We will continue to cooperate fully with the authorities


Then why are we just finding out about this with Jalen Carter?
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4384 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:14 pm to
Sounds like they just found corroborating video evidence that his vehicle was racing with the other one.
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