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re: 2019 LSU vs 2021 Georgia

Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:20 am to
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:20 am to
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If you can’t see how those don’t correlate into game planning and changing script in a game then idk


And once again, why does one injury render Alabama’s offense useless? Why didn’t Saban rotate more? Wouldn’t you say that’s poor coaching?
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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For example, I think it’s pretty clear that LSU would score at least 30ish on 2021 UGA, but I don’t think it’s at all clear that that LSU defense holds 2021 UGA offense in check either.


Closest comps to Georgia’s 2021 offense

Texas- 38 points
Florida- 28 points
Bammer- 41 points
Oklahoma- 28 points
Clemson- 25 points

I think it’s safe to assume that UGA wouldn’t have been shut down. We just don’t think they’d have scored the 40 points they’d likely have needed to win
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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LSU's record setting offense in 2019 or Georgia's record setting defense in 2021?




There is no way of telling, but they were both very good. Magical, you might say.

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I am new to the board and if this was already up I apologize.

Somehow I doubt this.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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You are still comparing players being out at the beginning of the year (which means it was game planned around all year). To the number 1 and 2 wide receiver going out in the last 3 games of the year. If you can’t see how those don’t correlate into game planning and changing script in a game then idk


Again, gameplans change constantly during every game.

What matters is if the players who have to come in are prepared or not. The reality is UGA's backups were prepared when they entered the game. Bama's were not. It's not about gameplans changing... coaches do that constantly. The fact you don't seem to realize that is confounding.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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Like last year's Heisman Trophy winnner?




790 yards, 5 TDs in two games.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:22 am to
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And once again, why does one injury render Alabama’s offense useless?


Our offense was still pretty good with Jameson.

It was the 2nd injury that really made us non-explosive and middling.

Losing 2 Top 50 NFL draft picks for a pass centric offense is going to effect your outcomes no matter who you are. The idea that we'd just toss in a couple freshman and keep on rolling at the same speed is silly.

Not to mention we're talking about losing those guys, difference making early round NFL pick guys, specifically in the context of playing against an elite defense like Georgia's. The margin for error was very small to begin with.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:22 am to
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Just not SEC championships...
No but we won the one you are quite salty about.. congratulations on your participation trophy
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61841 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:23 am to
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Defense wins championships.


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Just not SEC championships...


And you would rather win those than National Championships?
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29636 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:24 am to
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Funky Tide 8


I see you ignored my post calling out your asinine comment. Pretty clear at this point you’re just looking for reactions and not interested in real debate
Posted by BamaBy50
Member since Aug 2022
162 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:24 am to
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Disagree. You are confusing the SECCG and the NCG. Bowers was our third leading receiver in the NCG. We scored TDs with Darnell Washington in the SECCG (so we had a replacement tight end who could do damage). We screened Ladd McConkey a TD in the SECCG (so we were capable of replacing the same route tree). Obviously, Bama had issues covering AD Mitchell, Burton, and Pickens.

I love talking sensible football as much as the next guy but in this same thread you have a Georgia fan in the post above yours saying if you only look at stats you are wrong. However you are saying y’all would have been fine without Bowers, because stats. If you honestly don’t think having Bowers injured wouldn’t have changed Bama’s defensive game plan from having to double him often to not even having to account for him then I would be better off talking to a wall. Same thing happened when Jameson went down. Georgia no longer had to worry about being burned deep (like they had been repeatedly) and was able to shift focus to suffocating our offense. Great game plan that was assisted by injuries.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:24 am to
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The idea that we'd just toss in a couple freshman and keep on rolling at the same speed is silly.



Its delusional.

Its not like that fact changes any outcomes, or takes any shine away from UGA's NC trophy. Its just the reality of things.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:26 am to
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We didn't even really find the Metchie/Williams/Bryce groove until late in the season, led alone also having all the other guys in sync.

Sounds like a coaching and/or recruiting issue
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:26 am to
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Its delusional.

Its not like that fact changes any outcomes, or takes any shine away from UGA's NC trophy. Its just the reality of things.


Correct. Injuries and depth are part of the season. We had razor slim margins for a number of reasons (massive loss of production from the prior year, recruiting misses, etc), and when we lost those 2 guys we didn't have another explosive option on offense. Elite teams are able to overcome that stuff, we weren't because we were flawed. That's part of being a championship team.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56035 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:26 am to
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I suppose 2020 UGA is the same as 2021 UGA. I can’t think of any important players on ‘21 that didn’t contribute in ‘20.

Other than the best TE in the country

And our most productive WR

And the WR who caught the go ahead TD in the natty

And our all american DB who clinched the championship with a pick six


According to you guys, all of this shouldn't matter, and those positions should be able to be adequately filled by the next player
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:27 am to
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790 yards, 5 TDs in two games


So Georgia's defense didn't stop Bryce Young in the national championship game?? Kelee Ringo wants a word.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:28 am to
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Sounds like a coaching and/or recruiting issue


It's a "lose your entire offense to the NFL" issue. It takes time to become a unit that can be better than the best defense in the country.

I don't think you'd be super excited with the results if we rolled Georgia's defense out tomorrow against Ohio State's offense. Every little inexperienced mistake would be magnified by 10. In 15 weeks though? Probably be a much different story.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56035 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:29 am to
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So Georgia's defense didn't stop Bryce Young in the national championship game?? Kelee Ringo wants a word.



Sure, I'll give you that Kirby did a better job against him in the NC than in the SECCG where Bryce literally won the Heisman against Kirby's defense.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21023 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:30 am to
Nobody was beating Burrow....next.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39843 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:30 am to
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790 yards, 5 TDs in two games.


Bennett might have had better combined stats in both games.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26824 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:31 am to
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t's a "lose your entire offense to the NFL" issue. It takes time to become a unit that can be better than the best defense in the country. I don't think you'd be super excited with the results if we rolled Georgia's defense out tomorrow against Ohio State's offense. In 15 weeks though? Probably be a much different story

I’m being facetious to prove a larger point that being so impacted by an injury or two is a material flaw in a team, and arguing that “we would have won if all our players were healthy” in contact football is an exercise in unrealistic hypotheticals.
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