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re: 2019 LSU vs 2021 Georgia
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
We are specifically talking about defense doofus
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:32 am to diddlydawg7
Need more coffee
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:32 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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On a side note, who's defense you think was better: Bama 2020 or UGA 2021?
Georgia 2021 - not really even a question
Alabama's 2020 defense was very good by year end, but they weren't all-time good or anything.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:46 am to Dawg4Life47
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defense generational or best in CFB history.
That was no generational defense. Just a weak schedule. Alabama decimated that supposedly great defense in the last 2 games of the season.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:47 am to NitsFan71
Considering UGA got absolutely torched by the only explosive passing offense they played last season, I'd venture to say that it might get pretty ugly for 2021 UGA against 2019 LSU.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:51 am to GentlemanTiger
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Georgia had one of the best defenses in the country that year (maybe not as good as 2021, but not that far off either). LSU took them behind the woodshed and beat them senseless.
Yep.
LSU created horrible defenses in a 15-0 season that is widely considered the best season of all time.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:19 am to Mulkey Man
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Look what Bama did lighting up Georgia in the SEC championship, now picture a better offense with Burrow/Chase/Jefferson against that defense. ‘19 LSU would hang 50 on them.
UGA was out several DB's in the SECCG who were back and healthy in the NCG. But even then the reality was UGA had one off quarter against Bama. UGA's defense allowed 0, 24, 7, 3, 3, 6, 0, and 9 points in their 8 quarters against Bama last year. The 2nd quarter of the SECCG was bad for UGA... but it was also an anomaly. If UGA had that quarter against LSU they'd obviously lose. If they didn't, it's not nearly as clear a decision.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:30 am to DawginSC
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UGA was out several DB's in the SECCG who were back and healthy in the NCG. But even then the reality was UGA had one off quarter against Bama. UGA's defense allowed 0, 24, 7, 3, 3, 6, 0, and 9 points in their 8 quarters against Bama last year. The 2nd quarter of the SECCG was bad for UGA... but it was also an anomaly. If UGA had that quarter against LSU they'd obviously lose. If they didn't, it's not nearly as clear a decision.
Let's not forget that Bama pretty much went into cruise control for the entire 4th quarter of the SECCG. You can't really count that quarter.
And no, I am not making excuses, but you absolutely do have to consider that our top 2 WRs were injured for most of those quarters. That is to say that 2019 LSU's top 2 WRs were even better than 2021 Bama's top 2 WRs. So assuming that those two LSU WRs play in the game, the points per quarter argument doesn't really hold any water.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:31 am to NitsFan71
Welcome Grabowski. Dawgs would've laid the smacketh downeth.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:32 am to Funky Tide 8
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And no, I am not making excuses, but you absolutely do have to consider that our top 2 WRs were injured for most of those quarters.
Pickens played fewer snaps than Jamo
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:32 am to NitsFan71
This is just a stupid question. You must not know the game AT ALL.
There’s never been a team that has ever walked the field that could stop the greatest team in college football history
There’s never been a team that has ever walked the field that could stop the greatest team in college football history
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:33 am to DawginSC
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UGA was out several DB's in the SECCG who were back and healthy in the NCG. But even then the reality was UGA had one off quarter against Bama. UGA's defense allowed 0, 24, 7, 3, 3, 6, 0, and 9 points in their 8 quarters against Bama last year. The 2nd quarter of the SECCG was bad for UGA... but it was also an anomaly. If UGA had that quarter against LSU they'd obviously lose. If they didn't, it's not nearly as clear a decision.
LSU's 2019 offense had 2 elite pass catchers (Chase, Jefferson) and 3 incredible complimentary pass catchers for their roles (Marshall, Moss, CEH). I don't see anyway the Georgia secondary covers that. They were good but not great and Burrow would have hit every open man (of which there would have been 1-2 on every play).
Georgia would kill some drives with sacks, but that LSU offense would have exploited things in the pass game.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:34 am to GentlemanTiger
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Georgia had one of the best defenses in the country that year (maybe not as good as 2021, but not that far off either). LSU took them behind the woodshed and beat them senseless.
UGA's defense in 2019 wasn't nearly as good as 2021, but was pretty solid. It also played pretty moderately okay in the SECCG against LSU that year... the big problem in that game was UGA's offense (particularly the -2 UGA was on turnovers). One of those turnovers gave LSU a 13 yard field for one of their TD's. If you excuse that... the defense gave up 30 points which would have been the second lowest point total LSU got held to that year. The problem was UGA's offense wasn't up to the task.
The turnovers were an issue in the SECCG between UGA and Bama. UGA was -2 there too... and it let to 7 points on a pick 6 for Bama and took away a scoring opportunity on the other end (where UGA got intercepted in the red zone).
It's not a surprise that UGA was -2 in turnovers when they lost and +1 when they won against Bama. Everyone is focused on Bama's injured WR's... when the real difference is what UGA's offense vs Bama's defense did regarding turnovers.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:35 am to diddlydawg7
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And no, I am not making excuses, but you absolutely do have to consider that our top 2 WRs were injured for most of those quarters.
Pickens played fewer snaps than Jamo
what does that have to do with my post?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:35 am to Funky Tide 8
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Let's not forget that Bama pretty much went into cruise control for the entire 4th quarter of the SECCG. You can't really count that quarter. And no, I am not making excuses, but you absolutely do have to consider that our top 2 WRs were injured for most of those quarters. That is to say that 2019 LSU's top 2 WRs were even better than 2021 Bama's top 2 WRs. So assuming that those two LSU WRs play in the game, the points per quarter argument doesn't really hold any water.
So typical that a Bammer cries his teams are never mentioned as the best ever. And then there’s the excuses. Sorry buddy that 20 and 21 team would have gotten beaten by LSU 19 by double digs
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Georgia would kill some drives with sacks, but that LSU offense would have exploited things in the pass game.
Probably. The safeties were the weak spot of that defense.
I also think 2021 UGA would score pretty easily on 2019 LSU. I’d have LSU winning something like 38-30.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:35 am to DawginSC
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It's not a surprise that UGA was -2 in turnovers when they lost and +1 when they won against Bama. Everyone is focused on Bama's injured WR's... when the real difference is what UGA's offense vs Bama's defense did regarding turnovers.
Nobody is arguing the Bama/UGA result. They are pointing out that when Alabama had 2 healthy recievers (2+ qtrs in game 1) they moved the ball very effectively. This is being pointed out because LSU had 2 recievers better than that plus a bevy of other offensive options.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:36 am to diddlydawg7
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Probably. The safeties were the weak spot of that defense.
I also think 2021 UGA would score pretty easily on 2019 LSU. I’d have LSU winning something like 38-30.
That sounds about right. Agree, Georgia would have scored quite a bit, too. Especially if they played earlier in the year.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:36 am to LSUstephen17
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So typical that a Bammer cries his teams are never mentioned as the best ever. And then there’s the excuses. Sorry buddy that 20 and 21 team would have gotten beaten by LSU 19 by double digs
lol what?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:37 am to NitsFan71
LSU. There wasn’t much weakness on Georgia’s defense last year but their corners would have had a hard time with Jefferson and Chase
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