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2019 Alabama vs. 2020 Alabama
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:24 pm
Recent discussions about who was the greatest team of all time had me thinking, who was better: 2019 Alabama, or 2020 Alabama. In this post I will be breaking down each position in order to determine which team was superior.
Quarterback: This one was obvious. 2019 Alabama has the edge by a decent margin. Look no further than 2019 Auburn to determine that Tua was better than Jones. Once Tua had gotten hurt after the LSU game, the quality of play by Alabama decreased dramatically, and they didn’t even make the playoffs. Despite the fact that Tua is looking like a massive bust, he still is a significant improvement over Mac Jones
Running Back: Push. Pretty much the same personnel.
Wide Receiver: Massive edge for 2019 Bama. Smith, who IMO is one of the greatest college receivers ever, was on both teams. However, 2019 had Jeudy, Ruggs, and Waddle the entire season.
Tight End: Slight advantage 2020 Bama. I like Billingsley as a weapon and last years’ crew got a little extra experience.
O-Line: Slight advantage 2019. Despite the dominance of 2020 Bama’s line, 2019 had essentially the same personnel, except with a top 15 pick anchoring one of the tackles
D-Line: This one was tricky, but I have to give the edge to 2019 Alabama. The experience was there, and losing guys like Terrell Lewis and Raekwon Davis had to hurt the 2020 squad
Linebacker: Advantage 2020 Alabama. Although Dylan Moses is overrated as frick, he sure as hell is better than Shane Lee
Cornerback: Push if not slight advantage 2019. Jobe was good this year, however, losing a second round pick in Trevon Diggs had to hurt
Safety: Advantage 2019. I love Malachi Moore as a player, however, in no way is he already better than Xavier Mckinney - a second round pick.
Kicker: Advantage 2020. Obvious
Punter: Push
In conclusion, 2019 Alabama was far and away the better team out of the two Alabama squads, and any discrepancy in success can be chalked up to the season ending injury to Tua, and the decreased level of competition from 2019 to 2020, especially when you consider the fact that the 2019 Alabama squad had to play against the greatest team of all time.
Quarterback: This one was obvious. 2019 Alabama has the edge by a decent margin. Look no further than 2019 Auburn to determine that Tua was better than Jones. Once Tua had gotten hurt after the LSU game, the quality of play by Alabama decreased dramatically, and they didn’t even make the playoffs. Despite the fact that Tua is looking like a massive bust, he still is a significant improvement over Mac Jones
Running Back: Push. Pretty much the same personnel.
Wide Receiver: Massive edge for 2019 Bama. Smith, who IMO is one of the greatest college receivers ever, was on both teams. However, 2019 had Jeudy, Ruggs, and Waddle the entire season.
Tight End: Slight advantage 2020 Bama. I like Billingsley as a weapon and last years’ crew got a little extra experience.
O-Line: Slight advantage 2019. Despite the dominance of 2020 Bama’s line, 2019 had essentially the same personnel, except with a top 15 pick anchoring one of the tackles
D-Line: This one was tricky, but I have to give the edge to 2019 Alabama. The experience was there, and losing guys like Terrell Lewis and Raekwon Davis had to hurt the 2020 squad
Linebacker: Advantage 2020 Alabama. Although Dylan Moses is overrated as frick, he sure as hell is better than Shane Lee
Cornerback: Push if not slight advantage 2019. Jobe was good this year, however, losing a second round pick in Trevon Diggs had to hurt
Safety: Advantage 2019. I love Malachi Moore as a player, however, in no way is he already better than Xavier Mckinney - a second round pick.
Kicker: Advantage 2020. Obvious
Punter: Push
In conclusion, 2019 Alabama was far and away the better team out of the two Alabama squads, and any discrepancy in success can be chalked up to the season ending injury to Tua, and the decreased level of competition from 2019 to 2020, especially when you consider the fact that the 2019 Alabama squad had to play against the greatest team of all time.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:27 pm to atomic31
"same personnel = push" is a dumb argument. You don't think the players improved with experience?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:29 pm to biclops
If they actually did improve, yes. Najee Harris was a beast in both years.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:29 pm to atomic31
Yep, injuries cost Bama the national title in 19.
Throw in 16 too in seasons ruined due to injuries.
Throw in 16 too in seasons ruined due to injuries.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:30 pm to atomic31
Covid
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:30 pm to atomic31
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If they actually did improve, yes. Najee Harris was a beast in both years.
OK. What about O-Line and defensive units? This year's D while flawed was SO much better than last year's on the whole.
So while the O may have been less explosive (I would argue the gain in consistency and balance and slight loss in explosiveness was a net gain on offense), the D this year was so much better.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:31 pm to remaster916
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Yep, injuries cost Bama a rematch in 19.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:31 pm to atomic31
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Running Back: Push. Pretty much the same personnel
Stopped right here. Someone doesn’t understand that players, especially in the Saban/Alabama program improve, sometimes they improve a hell of a lot.
So all the LSU players from this 2020 team that are returning for another year instead of retiring from football (because most of those bums aren’t playing in the NFL) will be the same dog shite tier non winning season bunch of mediocre scrubs
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:32 pm to biclops
I addressed your points in the o-line part and the conclusion
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:32 pm to cajunbama
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Stopped right here. Someone doesn’t understand that players, especially in the Saban/Alabama program improve, sometimes they improve a hell of a lot.
So all the LSU players from this 2020 team that are returning for another year instead of retiring from football (because most of those bums aren’t playing in the NFL) will be the same dog shite tier non winning season bunch of mediocre scrubs
Covid Protocol.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:34 pm to atomic31
If your conclusion is that this year's D is worse than last year's, your logic is severely flawed.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:35 pm to biclops
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If your conclusion is that this year's D is worse than last year's, your logic is severely flawed.
It's truly hilarious to see stuff like this. The 2019 defense started 5 true freshmen in the front 7 (Dale, Young, Harris, Lee, Eboigbe) - none of which were phenom freshmen like Will Anderson in 2020.
The only part of the 2019 defense that was better than 2020 was safety. That's it. CB is close, but nothing else is even in the same area code. And the 2020 defense was good, but not great.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:36 pm to biclops
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If your conclusion is that this year's D is worse than last year's, your logic is severely flawed.
People are missing the main issue. Take a look at the opposition, most teams were there in name only. Based on Bama having minimal loses due to Covid Protocol, it is foolish trying to compare the teams. Even UF was suffering in the SECCG.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:37 pm to atomic31
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Quarterback: This one was obvious. 2019 Alabama has the edge by a decent margin. Look no further than 2019 Auburn to determine that Tua was better than Jones. Once Tua had gotten hurt after the LSU game, the quality of play by Alabama decreased dramatically, and they didn’t even make the playoffs. Despite the fact that Tua is looking like a massive bust, he still is a significant improvement over Mac Jones
Mac putting up 45 points in his first start against a ranked team (on the road) is your argument?
He’s not injury prone like Tua either.
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Running Back: Push. Pretty much the same personne
2020 Najee >> 2019 Najee
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Wide Receiver: Massive edge for 2019 Bama. Smith, who IMO is one of the greatest college receivers ever, was on both teams. However, 2019 had Jeudy, Ruggs, and Waddle the entire season.
Slight advantage to 2019. None of them were even close to 2020 Smith.
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Tight End: Slight advantage 2020 Bama. I like Billingsley as a weapon and last years’ crew got a little extra experience.
Huge advantage to 2020 Bama. Forristall missed nearly the whole 2019 season.
>O-Line: Slight advantage 2019. Despite the dominance of 2020 Bama’s line, 2019 had essentially the same personnel, except with a top 15 pick anchoring one of the tackles
Neal is also a top 10 pick at tackle. Ekiyor >>> 2019 Neal. 2020 also had a mostly full season of Dickerson. Won the Joe Moore award. Massive advantage to 2020
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D-Line: This one was tricky, but I have to give the edge to 2019 Alabama. The experience was there, and losing guys like Terrell Lewis and Raekwon Davis had to hurt the 2020 squad
Lmao don’t make me laugh. The 2019 D-line was flat out horrible. We were starting two true freshmen next to Davis. Lewis is a lineback.
Huge advantage to 2020 Bama.
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Linebacker: Advantage 2020 Alabama. Although Dylan Moses is overrated as frick, he sure as hell is better than Shane Lee
Allen and Anderson are just as good as Lewis and Jennings. Moses and Sophomore Harris are far better than Lee and freshman Harris.
Huge advantage to 2020 Bama.
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Cornerback: Push if not slight advantage 2019. Jobe was good this year, however, losing a second round pick in Trevon Diggs had to hurt
Junior Surtain, Jobe, Moore, and Branch are far better than Diggs, sophomore Surtain, and Shyheim Carter. Massive advantage to 2020 Bama.
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Safety: Advantage 2019. I love Malachi Moore as a player, however, in no way is he already better than Xavier Mckinney - a second round pick.
McKinney is a bit better than Battle. Hellams and Wright are better than Mayden. Push
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In conclusion, 2019 Alabama was far and away the better team out of the two Alabama squads, and any discrepancy in success can be chalked up to the season ending injury to Tua, and the decreased level of competition from 2019 to 2020, especially when you consider the fact that the 2019 Alabama squad had to play against the greatest team of all time.
The 2019 team started 4 true freshmen in the front 7. 2020 Bama is better and it’s not close
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:38 pm to atomic31
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In conclusion, 2019 Alabama was far and away the better team out of the two Alabama squads, and any discrepancy in success can be chalked up to the season ending injury to Tua, and the decreased level of competition from 2019 to 2020, especially when you consider the fact that the 2019 Alabama squad had to play against the greatest team of all time.
A lot of people on the SEC Rant owe some apologies to Muh Citrus Bowl champs, I guess. It sounds like they were the #2 best team of the last decade or so.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:41 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
Here is the attention you have repeatedly begged for in this thread fake insider with a fictitious list Attalla shithole Irons Puppet.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Yep, right behind 2019 LSU
A lot of people on the SEC Rant owe some apologies to Muh Citrus Bowl champs, I guess. It sounds like they were the #2 best team of the last decade or so.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:43 pm to cajunbama
I think Najee had already reached his potential in 2019 - which, don't get me wrong, is elite. I gave other position groups credit when I though they ACTUALLY improved
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:45 pm to atomic31
Tua is not a better QB than Mac Jones. He has more talent, is more accurate etc, but there is way more to playing QB than those things. Mac Jones played with poise, knew when to get rid of the ball, hit his checkdowns and played smart.
Mac's stats are better and it's a reflection of that.
Then you follow it up with saying a RB with another year is somehow a push, rather than recognizing the experience and such that was being return.
I quit reading after that.
Mac's stats are better and it's a reflection of that.
Then you follow it up with saying a RB with another year is somehow a push, rather than recognizing the experience and such that was being return.
I quit reading after that.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:46 pm to atomic31
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I think Najee had already reached his potential in 2019
Then you are an idiot.
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