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re: 2016 LSU Football Season Prediction Thread

Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:44 pm to


Why do you keep saying this?

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In regards to a bunch of jerkoffs using the outcome of LSU vs Arkansas in two random years to predict the outcome of LSU vs Arkansas next year


Nobody is saying this. Nobody is saying that because Arkansas beat LSU two times Arkansas will beat LSU again. Nobody.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:44 pm to
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If we're going to use anything to predict next year's outcome, why don't we look at LSU's superior talent and coaching? Is that not a better indicator that LSU is going to win next year than the fact that Arkansas played us well two years ago?




That I would agree with. However, I would argue LSU had superior talent for the past two years but Arkansas had superior coaching.

But I am tapping out. And never going to Vegas
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:44 pm to
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past performances
This will not affect this year's game
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returning players
LSU has a BIG, BIG advantage here. Why are you dismissing this?
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location of game
Arkansas' home field advantage isn't significant
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styles
Our style is changing in multiple ways this year, as I've already pointed out. How does our style in 2014 indicate who's going to win next year?
Posted by Opelousas Sostan
Opelousas
Member since Dec 2015
717 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:45 pm to
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don't we look at LSU's superior talent and coaching?



Superior coaching?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Arkansas had superior coaching


Yep, Les was out coached the last two years. That doesn't mean it happens next year but it was true for the past two.
Posted by cwahl1
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
316 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:47 pm to
I predict a sure loss to Arkansas (the week following Bama, which is a game where we put all our eggs into one basket, and we will not be ready to play @Arkansas the following week).

I think we pull an upset against Bama (a man can dream) though and finish 11-1 and finally get back to the SECCG and contending for titles.

After a 6th straight loss Daddy Faggy (Old Sarge) poisons LSU's oak trees because he just can't take lying to himself anymore about being my dad.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Nobody is saying this. Nobody is saying that because Arkansas beat LSU two times Arkansas will beat LSU again. Nobody.
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Have you watched the game the last 2 seasons? Those weren't fluky games. It doesn't mean LSU will lose for sure, but expecting Arkansas to beat them at home is not some crazy notion.


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LSU hasn't kept within 3 scores of Arkansas since 2013


Those are the two responses to my question "why do you think it's reasonable to expect Arkansas to beat LSU this year"?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:48 pm to
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That isn't how the world, statistics, or sports work.
You said a couple pages ago
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:48 pm to
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This will not affect this year's game


The data from them and the fact that LSU's current players have struggled with power rushing teams and teams that are balanced on offense is 100% a piece of information to use in determining who will win a game. How much it will change from year to year is the variable.

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LSU has a BIG, BIG advantage here. Why are you dismissing this?


They have an advantage, but I don't think it is as BIG BIG an advantage as you seem to think because the matchups negate a lot of it. Also, Arkansas plays a style that negates a lot of LSU's talent advantage, and LSU plays a style that welcomes things like slowing the game down and making it an inside the phone booth type game. Arkansas loves that.

Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:49 pm to
Yes, Les Miles who has multiple SEC championships, a national championship, and has never won fewer than 8 games in his 10+ years at LSU is a better coach then Bret Bielema who has never even gone .500 in the SEC. And we have a top 3 defensive staff in all of college football. Our coaching is superior to Arkansas
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:51 pm to
Yea, I was talking about the fact that you can't use past sporting events to predict what's going to happen in future sporting events. Do you disagree?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Those are the two responses to my question "why do you think it's reasonable to expect Arkansas to beat LSU this year"?


Because you are saying that people are dumb for thinking Arkansas is going to win solely because the paper says Arkansas won the last 2 games vs LSU.

If people were saying "Welp, Arkansas won the last 2, that must mean they will win a 3rd" then yes, you would be correct.

None of us are saying that. We are saying that we think the style+talent+location of game+schedule before+coaching = Arkansas having a good chance to win again. We took factors from previous seasons and teams because that is all we have to go on at this moment.

I don't get why this is so hard for you to understand except for that you are a small, angry little man who thought he had some sort of rudimentary knowledge of finance and financial research and realized quickly that he did not.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:52 pm to
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Yes, Les Miles who has multiple SEC championships, a national championship, and has never won fewer than 8 games in his 10+ years at LSU is a better coach then Bret Bielema who has never even gone .500 in the SEC. And we have a top 3 defensive staff in all of college football. Our coaching is superior to Arkansas



LOL, so you think that those past accomplishments have ANYTHING to do with this year's game?

After all the stuff you have been saying the last 4 pages?

Are you nuts man?
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13598 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Our coaching is superior to Arkansas


Someone forgot to tell the guys in Fayetteville, looks like they'll be giving those wins back to LSU.

Or, it could be related to how the teams' styles matchup, preparation, and gameday coaching a.k.a. trends that have been present in each coaching regime's tenure.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23836 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Yea, I was talking about the fact that you can't use past sporting events to predict what's going to happen in future sporting events. Do you disagree?
You can't get a completely accurate prediction of the future events, but you can get a some what clear picture of what should happen.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:57 pm to
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Bret Bielema who has never even gone .500 in the SEC


Well you just showed your ignorance

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Our style is changing in multiple ways this year
LMAO
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23836 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Our style is changing in multiple ways this year, as I've already pointed out. How does our style in 2014 indicate who's going to win next year?
How do you know that for sure?
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13598 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Well you just showed your ignorance


On about page 1 of the Catholic Church thread, page 2 of this thread. This past performance would lead me to believe that he'll make it obvious in the first couple pages of any further threads he posts in; unless you're following his logic in which past performance has no bearing.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:02 pm to
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None of us are saying that. We are saying that we think the style+talent+location of game+schedule before+coaching = Arkansas having a good chance to win again. We took factors from previous seasons and teams because that is all we have to go on at this moment.
The fact that LSU has made changes to this:
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coaching
negates anyone's ability to predict the outcomes based off of this as of right now:
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style


And that's one of your main arguments. You're saying that Arkansas' style has given us trouble but we have a completely different DC and defensive scheme now and apparently Cam Cameron is making big changes to the offense. How do you know that we won't incorporate things that give Arkansas trouble? As of right now, talent is pretty much the only thing that we can use to reasonably predict who the winner is. As the season gets closer, sure, use all of the other things, but you don't even know what packages LSU or Arkansas are going to use next year and Arkansas' style is a major indicator of why they're going to give us trouble? Get real
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