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re: 2011 lsu team the best team to not win a national title??

Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:57 pm to
Any team that gets boat raced can't be the best to never win? Too many examples of great teams barely losing.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:01 pm to
I mean our offense wasn’t that bad that year. We scored no less than 35 points in 11 of our games. The other three games was 19 against State, 9 against Bama, and then 0 against Bama. State had a good defense that year and of course Bama had a great defense that year but other than those 3 games, the offense was rolling. That’s including 42 vs Georgia, 40 vs Oregon, 47 vs West Virginia, 41 vs Florida, 45 vs Auburn, and 41 vs Arkansas.

I know everyone loves to pick on our offense because of that game on 1/9/12 but our offense was actually pretty good that year.
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:39 pm to
Yes
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:42 pm to
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Tuscaloosa


Good to see you back being yourself again. By being a grade A idiot.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:47 pm to
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2001 Florida and Tennessee


The only two teams that had a shot at giving Miami a real game that year imo
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:54 pm to
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I mean outside of Mississippi State and Alabama, that offense was pretty dominant as well.


The 2011 LSU offense averaged around 355 yards per game and finished right in the middle of the conference in total offense. Their scoring offense was excellent, but the majority of those points can be attributable to excellent field position provided by the defense and special teams.
Posted by tigerland81
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:56 pm to
Mathews as a third round proved a fluke. Off the field issues kept him off the 1st round. Was a top 3 pick in my eyes.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:00 pm to
They scored 0 points when it mattered. Hardly a “best team”
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Good to see you back being yourself again. By being a grade A idiot.


What did I post that you didn't like?

That 2016 team had more total draft picks, more first round draft picks, more Rounds 1-3 draft picks, beat 8 ranked teams prior to the post season, had more games won by 3+ scores, more shut outs, held more teams without a touchdown, averaged 39.4 points per game to 2011 LSU's 37.6, and averaged 464 YPG to 2011 LSU's 372 (70th in the country).

What else were you looking for?
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 8:04 pm
Posted by tigerland81
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:11 pm to
11 LSU had the better resume, look it up. Offense is not a Team . LSU’s Denfense and Special teams were superior to everyone . D was equal to Bama but Special teams the difference. But I agree LSU could have field any of their previous offenses and would have own the history books .that offense was one of the weakest.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:26 pm to
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Offense is not a Team


That's why I've included defensive numbers in all of my posts.

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that offense was one of the weakest.


That would seem to disqualify 2011 LSU from the discussion, wouldn't it?
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:32 pm to
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I do not have the time or desire. I'm sure the info is out there somewhere.


However:
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This investigation centers around the FBI trial of a couple of Adidas executives and would-be handler Christian Dawkins. There is a criminal trial scheduled for April. Why is that a potential big problem for LSU? The NCAA can now use that information alone instead of being forced to launch their own investigation. Feb. 25, 2018 - Yahoo: LSU's Will Wade draws scrutiny from NCAA for recruiting tactics Feb 28, 2018 - Will Wade denies any contact or inquiry from the NCAA In the fall of 2018, initial court documents were released that showed Will Wade was on wiretaps, although the extent of those conversations were not fully released. Oct. 16, 2018 - NOLA.com: Initial report of alleged Will Wade wiretaps Will Wade vehemently denies having ever done business with Christian Dawkins. "I or we have never, ever done business of any kind with Christian Dawkins.” Oct. 17, 2018 - Courier Journal: Will Wade responds to transcript A few days later, Scott Rabalais and The Advocate come to Wade's defense in a lengthy article. Oct. 22, 2018 - Rabalais: LSU coach Will Wade has earned scrutiny, but hardly conviction, in Christian Dawkins case On February 26, 2019, Yahoo! Sports and USA Today revealed that LSU's Will Wade and Arizona's Sean Miller were facing subpoenas in the ongoing FBI criminal case. Feb. 26, 2019 - Yahoo! Sports: Arizona's Sean Miller, LSU's Will Wade notified they will be subpoenaed in federal hoops corruption trial On March 5, we were told by SECrant newcomer NorthBruin40 to expect additional allegations against Wade. More coming Fast forward a few months into the court proceedings & just two days following NorthBruin40's ominous warning, and Yahoo! Sports releases an article detailing the FBI Wiretaps. Match 7, 2019 - Exclusive: Wiretap reveals LSU coach Will Wade discussed recruiting 'offer' with hoops scandal middleman quote: “Dude,” Wade continued to Dawkins, referring to the third party involved in the recruitment, “I went to him with a [expletive] strong-arse offer about a month ago. [Expletive] strong. “The problem was, I know why he didn’t take it now, it was [expletive] tilted toward the family a little bit,” Wade continued. “It was tilted toward taking care of the mom, taking care of the kid. Like it was tilted towards that. Now I know for a fact he didn’t explain everything to the mom. I know now, he didn’t get enough of the piece of the pie in the deal.” Dawkins responded by saying, “Hmmmm.” “It was a [expletive] hell of a [expletive] offer,” Wade continued. “Hell of an offer.” Following the Yahoo! report, several high profile individuals have issued scolding remarks towards LSU and its basketball program. March 7, 2018 - USA Today: LSU should skip the NCAA tournament and fire Will Wade after FBI wiretap report The Athletic: It’s time for LSU to sit Will Wade Clay Travis: I'll be stunned if Will Wade coaches another game at LSU 3/8/19 UPDATE: LSU's Will Wade has been suspended. New Advocate article released 3/8/19 - LSU basketball coach Will Wade suspended after Yahoo report; school releases statement 3/9/19 - Will Wade has released a statement: SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey's statement on the Will Wade suspension: 03/11/19 - Organized protests begin on campus in support of Will Wade TigerDroppings thread LINK quote: TIME: Protest starts at 2:30 and continues to march at 6 PLACE: In front of Nicholson Gateway and Matherne's. This is a combo of mine and Olric's protests. 3/13/19 - One day after the disappointing protests, “FREE WILL WADE” billboards have arrived. 3/13/19 - AD Joe Alleva chimes in on fan unrest and protests quote: “You know what, my job is to be there and support the players,” he said. “That’s why I was there, and it didn’t change because Will wasn’t coaching.” ... When asked what he would say to the fans, Alleva paused and said, “You know, I really wouldn’t say much to them. I believe we did the right thing." “It’s not all about winning. A lot of people just care about winning. … Winning is not the end of what we do. Our job is to prepare young people for the rest of their lives... if there’s any cheating involved that is not winning, OK? That is not winning.” 3/14/19 - Will Wade asks administration to reinstate him 3/14/19 - LSU lawyers respond to Wade's request for reinstatement 3/14/19 - $880K comes up missing in Health Audit in Funes case. LSU legal team notified. quote: @elizabethcrisp .@TheLakeHealth audit findings on Funes allegations: $810K lost "due to fraudulent activity." "The forensic investigation also revealed two questionable issues that warranted we notify legal counsel for LSU." #lalege #lsu #lagov LSU Statement on audit: 3/15/19 - LSU player Smart cleared to play, but Wade still suspended 3/18/19 - Will Wade refuses to meet with LSU again This post was edited on 4/4 at 4:02 pm

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:36 pm to
You have followed me into three different threads to complain about my posting copied and pasted information to the OP of a thread that revolves around what you call "nothing more, nothing less than entertainment."

Very bizarre.
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:41 pm to
That’s weird, not a single mention of Texas A&M...
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:43 pm to
Lol, because you’re a hypocrite
You don’t have the time or desire..... my arse
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:43 pm to
We beat 3 of the top 5 teams in the final poll.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:46 pm to
Tuscaloosa is a hypocrite, don’t try to have a legitimate conversation with him. It’s useless.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:51 pm to
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Lol, because you’re a hypocrite
You don’t have the time or desire..... my arse


That is correct. As it turns out, I'll decide when I have the time and desire and how to use said time and desire. And as it turns out, you don't have to like it. And as it also turns out, there's nothing you can do about it. Following me around and crying like a little girl isn't going to change that.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:51 pm to
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We beat 3 of the top 5 teams in the final poll.


That is quite an accomplishment. Congrats.
Posted by madddoggydawg
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:55 pm to
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I'll decide when I have the time and desire and how to use said time and desire.
You have all day and night
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