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Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:29 pm
This would be the perfect year to have it. Even if we have an entire CF season, I think many of the minor Bowls will cancel their game for safety and lack of interest. With a 16 team playoff, 15 Bowls could have great TV ratings and high interest.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:30 pm to Irons Puppet
If baseball can start guys at 2nd base in extra innings and add the DH to the NL, college football can use 2020 as an experimentation season as well.
I'm in
I'm in
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’m down
8/9 game schedule
Top 16 playoff money would be staggering
8/9 game schedule
Top 16 playoff money would be staggering
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Who is going to want to play in some of those minor Bowls this year? They will not even be considered a reward for the Vandy and Dukes of the world.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:04 pm to Irons Puppet
The more I think about this, the more I like it.
- 9 game regular season (8 conference, 1 OOC)
- no conference championship games
- polls/computer/committee choose seeds
- 1st round games on home fields of top seeds
- Quarters/semis played in bowls
- Championship at Hard Rock as scheduled
Why the hell not?
- 9 game regular season (8 conference, 1 OOC)
- no conference championship games
- polls/computer/committee choose seeds
- 1st round games on home fields of top seeds
- Quarters/semis played in bowls
- Championship at Hard Rock as scheduled
Why the hell not?
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:18 am to FearlessFreep
This formula in the bcs era would’ve probably changed who the national champion is almost every year lol.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:30 am to FearlessFreep
"1st round games on home fields of top seeds"
Man. Could you imagine how awesome that would be?! The kickass matchups you'd get, gahh. I wish
Man. Could you imagine how awesome that would be?! The kickass matchups you'd get, gahh. I wish
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:17 am to ShreveportTiger1987
quote:It would make up for the handful of “marquee matchups” in early season OOC games, because these would have some meaning.
Man. Could you imagine how awesome that would be?! The kickass matchups you'd get, gahh. I wish
I think some further refining could be in order - like making sure the first round matchups are seeded regionally like in the bball tourneys, to make sure there are more interesting games in the early rounds. So instead of seeding teams 1-16, seed them 1-8 In two regions, but have the lower-seeded teams have to travel to play in the opposite region.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:23 am to Irons Puppet
Why stop there?
6 game season for rivalry maintenance, creation of adequate revenue, and a baseline for fair seeding (Sept 5 - Oct 10). 4 conference games/2 non-conference games
One week bye to create a reset and CV-19 isolation periods to ID any +s.
128 seed playoff starts 24 Oct.
-RD 1 (rd of 128): 24 October; high seed hosts
-RD 2 (rd of 64): 31 Oct; high seed hosts
- one week bye
-RD 3 (rd of 32): 14 Nov; high seed hosts
- one week bye to reset/test CV-19 and align for a big Thanksgiving FB weekend
- Rd 4 (Rd of 16): 26-28 Nov; high seed hosts
- 1 week bye; "secure" travel to and isolated lodging at all neutral site games in remainder of playoffs to mitigate travel exposure
- Rd 5 (Rd of 8): 11-12 Dec; neutral site
- 2 week bye to best ensure isolation and testing, and alignment for a New Years final 4
-RD 6 (rd of 4): 31 Dec-1 Jan; neutral site
- one week bye
-RD 7 (Finals): 15 Jan; neutral site Fri night game gets rid of awful Monday night championships
Creates a 13 game season for the teams in the finals. More than manageable and essentially is inclusive of all FBS football, except the couple in the very bottom of the barrel and they still get a half season.
Safety: biweekly player testing throughout; bye weeks and isolation restrictions included to create bubbles; other mitigation measures increase as games become more important/competitive.
First 6 games would matter, but mostly for bragging rights. Would create incentive for big OOC matchups with little downside.
Establish bowl game opportunities selected from the losers of Rd 1 through the Sweet 16 based on adjusted rankings after the Sweet 16. NY6 bowls pick first; remainder of the Bowl game selection order is based on lottery. Bowl game teams auto-selected as highest pairings of re-ranked teams in the lottery selection order.
1/3 fill all stadiums.
6 game season for rivalry maintenance, creation of adequate revenue, and a baseline for fair seeding (Sept 5 - Oct 10). 4 conference games/2 non-conference games
One week bye to create a reset and CV-19 isolation periods to ID any +s.
128 seed playoff starts 24 Oct.
-RD 1 (rd of 128): 24 October; high seed hosts
-RD 2 (rd of 64): 31 Oct; high seed hosts
- one week bye
-RD 3 (rd of 32): 14 Nov; high seed hosts
- one week bye to reset/test CV-19 and align for a big Thanksgiving FB weekend
- Rd 4 (Rd of 16): 26-28 Nov; high seed hosts
- 1 week bye; "secure" travel to and isolated lodging at all neutral site games in remainder of playoffs to mitigate travel exposure
- Rd 5 (Rd of 8): 11-12 Dec; neutral site
- 2 week bye to best ensure isolation and testing, and alignment for a New Years final 4
-RD 6 (rd of 4): 31 Dec-1 Jan; neutral site
- one week bye
-RD 7 (Finals): 15 Jan; neutral site Fri night game gets rid of awful Monday night championships
Creates a 13 game season for the teams in the finals. More than manageable and essentially is inclusive of all FBS football, except the couple in the very bottom of the barrel and they still get a half season.
Safety: biweekly player testing throughout; bye weeks and isolation restrictions included to create bubbles; other mitigation measures increase as games become more important/competitive.
First 6 games would matter, but mostly for bragging rights. Would create incentive for big OOC matchups with little downside.
Establish bowl game opportunities selected from the losers of Rd 1 through the Sweet 16 based on adjusted rankings after the Sweet 16. NY6 bowls pick first; remainder of the Bowl game selection order is based on lottery. Bowl game teams auto-selected as highest pairings of re-ranked teams in the lottery selection order.
1/3 fill all stadiums.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 8:32 am
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:43 am to Che Boludo
quote:You've clearly put more thought into this than I have
armytide373
While your proposal for a one-off season in 2020 might be feasible, I was thinking more long-term, based on my belief that CFB (and organized sports in general) are now past their peak in revenue generation as well as audience interest. Corporate sponsorship will shrink dramatically in the inevitable economic crunch, making the whole fiscally unsustainable house of cards collapse.
Permanently reducing the regular season with a modest expansion of playoff participation seems to me the most logical way forward if the sport is to survive.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:59 am to Irons Puppet
4 teams are already too many sometimes, 8 Teams are way too many. Diluting the playoffs was correctly recognized as a bad idea before COVID.
Since COVID, the top level of college football has NOT doubled or quadrupled, which would be a prerequisite to considering playoff inflation.
Since COVID, the top level of college football has NOT doubled or quadrupled, which would be a prerequisite to considering playoff inflation.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:00 am to coastrebel
quote:
This formula in the bcs era would’ve probably changed who the national champion is almost every year lol.
Ummm outside of switching the order of the top 4 once ou\r twice the committee has matched the top 4 of the BCS every time...
Here is last years for reference
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:57 am to Irons Puppet
I’d have the low seeds host in the 1st round or two to give them some revenue.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 12:06 pm to Woodreaux
quote:Youre misidentifying the problem. The idea is to keep CFB from collapsing under its own weight, which I believe is in imminent danger of happening. Limiting fan interest to the four teams at the top of the heap isn’t the way to do that.
4 teams are already too many sometimes, 8 Teams are way too many. Diluting the playoffs was correctly recognized as a bad idea before COVID.
The two regions would be defined thusly:
East - SEC, ACC, Notre Dame, and all G5 teams East of the Mississippi River
West- Big10, Big12, PAC12, BYU and all G5 teams West of the Mississippi River
Based on the chart DeathValley posted, lets use the top 16 from an amalgam of these two rankings and seed the 2019 16-team playoff field:
East Region
1) LSU
2) Clemson
3) UGa
4) Florida
5) Auburn
6) Bama
7) Notre Dame
8) Memphis
West Region
1) tOSU
2) Oklahoma
3) Oregon
4) Penn St
5) Baylor
6) Wisky
7) Utah
8) Michigan
Under my proposal the top four seeds in each region would host the bottom four from the other region, so the 2019 1st round matchups would have been:
Michgan @ LSU
Memphis @ tOSU
Utah @ Clemson
ND @ Oklahoma
Wisky @ UGa
Bama @ Oregon
Baylor @ Florida
AU @ Penn St
Couple of obvious stinkers in there, but a bunch of solid matchups as well. 2nd round more of the same, with the winners of the 1st round playing each other in the Rose, Cotton, Sugar and Orange bowls, with the higher seeds hosting the lower, once again with cross-regional matchups if possible.
There’s more, but I have real work to do
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:52 pm to FearlessFreep
It would allow all players to show there talent and then have a meaningful post season. I doubt you will have any Bowl Games otherwise this year.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:05 pm to Irons Puppet
It should be left at four teams.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:24 pm to WRhodesTider
Those three games will be the only post season games. It will be a financial disaster for CF.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:09 pm to TheDeathValley
Screw making it regional, go with the top 16, top 8 host, 2 brackets (1 and 2 are the top seeds):
Last year (via BCS)
1 side:
Michigan @ LSU
Baylor @ Penn St
-
Utah @ Oklahoma
Auburn @ Georgia
2 side:
Memphis @ Ohio St
Wisconsin @ Oregon
-
Notre Dame @ Clemson
Alabama @ Florida
That's 5 SEC, 4 Big 10, 2 Big 12, 2 Pac 12, 1 ACC, 1 independent, and 1 non-P5. "Everybody" gets a shot, we get some decent 1st rd matchups and some potential later rd matchups worth watching...
That's 3 nasty defenses on Oklahoma's plate, do they make the Final 4? Does LSU win the Big 10 title too, if they beat Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State? Does Alabama make a run on the road, and take Clemson down before the Final 4?
Last year (via BCS)
1 side:
Michigan @ LSU
Baylor @ Penn St
-
Utah @ Oklahoma
Auburn @ Georgia
2 side:
Memphis @ Ohio St
Wisconsin @ Oregon
-
Notre Dame @ Clemson
Alabama @ Florida
That's 5 SEC, 4 Big 10, 2 Big 12, 2 Pac 12, 1 ACC, 1 independent, and 1 non-P5. "Everybody" gets a shot, we get some decent 1st rd matchups and some potential later rd matchups worth watching...
That's 3 nasty defenses on Oklahoma's plate, do they make the Final 4? Does LSU win the Big 10 title too, if they beat Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State? Does Alabama make a run on the road, and take Clemson down before the Final 4?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 6:40 pm to Scoob
quote:Why? That would be the best way to make it interesting, by matching up teams that wouldn't normally play each other.
Screw making it regional
Why would seeing a rematch of AU and UGa (in your scenario) be preferable to seeing AU vs Penn State and Wisky vs UGa (in my proposal)?
Adding a regional element to the selection process just makes sense if the sport is to survive.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:53 pm to Irons Puppet
16 team playoff and aTm STILL WOULD NOT MAKE IT.
And
Georgia would lose in the first round.
And
Georgia would lose in the first round.
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