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re: Trinidad denied waiver by NCAA
Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:24 pm to bttrflyjss87
Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:24 pm to bttrflyjss87
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What’s going to happen if he loses the case at trial?
He'll be in the NFL by then
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:54 pm to No Colors
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He’ll be in the NFL by then
He’s one player. What good does it actually do for Ole Miss football to risk having to vacate wins in pursuit of natty? More importantly, what does it communicate about the future of OM football beyond next season that OM is acting like the offense can’t continue to be successful without Chambliss. Surely I can’t be the only person who thinks it’s alarming that OM doesn’t seem to think we can win a natty without Chambliss.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:00 pm to bttrflyjss87
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What good does it actually do for Ole Miss football to risk having to vacate wins in pursuit of natty?
Has Vandy had to vacate wins because of their lawsuit (which was dropped this off season)? How about any of the other 20+ schools that had a player get an extra year of eligibility under the Pavia lawsuit?
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More importantly, what does it communicate about the future of OM football beyond next season that OM is acting like the offense can’t continue to be successful without Chambliss. Surely I can’t be the only person who thinks it’s alarming that OM doesn’t seem to think we can win a natty without Chambliss.
If you don't want the Heisman favorite playing QB for this team I have no idea what to tell you.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:15 pm to bttrflyjss87
quote:Are you fricking high? Who fricking cares if we “vacate” wins if it leads to a natty. If it came to that I guarantee the SEC would tell the NCAA to go frick itself.
What good does it actually do for Ole Miss football to risk having to vacate wins in pursuit of natty?
Even if we “vacated” the wins, it still happened and we would still have the trophy because it’s not an NCAA sanctioned playoff/championship.
quote:Take Joe Burrow off the 2019 LSU team and they lose 2-3 games. Take Fernando Mendoza off the Indiana team last year, they don’t make the playoff.
Surely I can’t be the only person who thinks it’s alarming that OM doesn’t seem to think we can win a natty without Chambliss.
If Simmons never gets hurt against Kentucky, we are an 8-4 team with him as our QB. Chambliss literally transformed us into a team that was one drive away from a national championship game.
You need to sit this one out man if you truly believe all of this crap you’re spewing. You sound like someone who thinks Matt Luke needed more time.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:14 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Are you fricking high?
I’m not high, but you must be clueless.
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Who cares if we have to “vacate” wins if it leads to a natty
Does nobody else remember USC’s 2004 national championship win being vacated and the BCS stripping their title? Does nobody remember that Notre Dame’s 2012 natty loss was vacated for playing ineligible players? The NCAA can vacate natty wins, they’ve done it before.
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even if we “vacated” the wins, we’d still keep the trophy
Not true. Once again, the 2004 USC national championship being vacated is the example. USC had to return the trophy to the BCS after the BCS stripped the title.
quote:Does the “BTTRFLY” part of my username not clue you in to the fact that I’m NOT a man?!?!?
You need to sit this one out man
I don’t want Ole Miss winning a natty to be a “once in my lifetime” occurrence. What this situation shows is that the rest of the fricking fanbase so desperate for a natty that they think being a program that can’t consistently win is OK.
Ferris State didn’t file to get Chambliss a medical redshirt because they knew their program could and would win without him because their program isn’t built around one player.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:17 am to OleVaught14
quote:You mean the 20+ players the NCAA gave waivers for 2025? Why would those wins be vacated? The NCAA Division I Board of Directors granted those players involved in the lawsuit, and players across all DI sports in similar situations, a blanket waiver for the 2025-2026 season.
20+ schools with players who got eligibility through the Pavia lawsuit
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If you don’t want the Heisman favorite playing QB
And if you’re OK with the success of the program CONSTANTLY hinging on one player, I don’t know what to tell you. Alabama under Saban sure didn’t function that way. Ferris State sure doesn’t function that way. Successful programs don’t function that way.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 5:52 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:04 am to bttrflyjss87
Known recruiting powerhouse…….. Ferris State.
I hate to bash a fellow fan but the logic in your arguments is brutally lacking.
Pay attention when I say this…..no one….and I mean NO ONE gives a shite about vacated wins.
I hate to bash a fellow fan but the logic in your arguments is brutally lacking.
Pay attention when I say this…..no one….and I mean NO ONE gives a shite about vacated wins.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 6:05 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:22 am to pankReb
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NO ONE gives a shite about vacated wins
You say that now, but I guarantee you’ll be singing a different tune when the vacated win is the natty and the CFP revokes the title. The 2004 USC title sets the precedent to do that.
You do realize Ferris State won their 4th DII national championship in 5 years in 2025….without Chambliss.
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The logic in your arguments is lacking
Just because you don’t want to hear it, doesn’t make it untrue. What cracks me up is all the people on this forum who bash the NCAA without realizing Chancellor Boyce is on the Division I Board of Directors as the SEC conference representative. Eric Wood, Senior Deputy AD/External Relations and Business Development, is the on the DI Academics and Eligibility Committee.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:43 am to bttrflyjss87
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You say that now, but I guarantee you’ll be singing a different tune when the vacated win is the natty and the CFP revokes the title. The 2004 USC title sets the precedent to do that.
Oh. I see your point. Well then think maybe about this.
NO ONE GIVES A shite ABOUT VACATED WINS
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You do realize Ferris State won their 4th DII national championship in 5 years in 2025….without Chambliss.
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Dll
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Just because you don’t want to hear it, doesn’t make it untrue.
Most because it’s your logic, doesn’t make it sound.
No one goes a shite about vacated wins.
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What cracks me up is all the people on this forum who bash the NCAA without realizing Chancellor Boyce is on the Division I Board of Directors as the SEC conference representative. Eric Wood, Senior Deputy AD/External Relations and Business Development, is the on the DI Academics and Eligibility Committee.
So we’re supposed to completely turn a blind eye to how trash that organization has been just because they have ole Miss people on board? I don’t care who runs it. It’s trash.
Also, I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I figured that it’s worth noting… NO ONE CARES ABOUT VACATED WINS.
A vacated national championship is infinitely better for our program than not having one at all
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:06 am to pankReb
Eric Wood’s position on the DI Academics and Athletics Eligibility Committee means he has direct contact with the members of the Athletics Eligibility Subcommittee, which ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE DI waiver decisions.
Take a minute to digest what that means. Trinidad’s waiver was denied despite an employee of the OM Athletic Department having direct contact with the people who make those decisions.
Repeating it like a SELF-HELP MANTRA doesn’t make it true. You may not care about it now, but after we’re all long dead and buried, the next generation will not view vacated wins the same way, especially if that’s the pinnacle of the program’s success.
I’m sure programs like USC that have struggled after vacating a national championship title would disagree. Some people are even saying they should no longer be considered a “blue blood”. They’ve been really inconsistent as a program since and have yet to make another run at the natty.
Or for an example closer to home, Mississippi College had to vacate the 1989 DII National Championship, which was the program’s only natty. They ended dropping down to DIII from 1997-2013. Even after returning to DII, they never experienced the same level of success.
BTW, USC and MC are the only programs I can find that have had to vacate natty titles.
Take a minute to digest what that means. Trinidad’s waiver was denied despite an employee of the OM Athletic Department having direct contact with the people who make those decisions.
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NO ONE GIVES a shite about VACATED WINS
Repeating it like a SELF-HELP MANTRA doesn’t make it true. You may not care about it now, but after we’re all long dead and buried, the next generation will not view vacated wins the same way, especially if that’s the pinnacle of the program’s success.
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A vacated national championship is infinitely better for our program than not having one at all
I’m sure programs like USC that have struggled after vacating a national championship title would disagree. Some people are even saying they should no longer be considered a “blue blood”. They’ve been really inconsistent as a program since and have yet to make another run at the natty.
Or for an example closer to home, Mississippi College had to vacate the 1989 DII National Championship, which was the program’s only natty. They ended dropping down to DIII from 1997-2013. Even after returning to DII, they never experienced the same level of success.
BTW, USC and MC are the only programs I can find that have had to vacate natty titles.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:21 am to bttrflyjss87
Yes. The downfall of USC is absolutely the vacated national championship and in no way shape or form due to crippling sanctions and bad coaching hires.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:24 am to bttrflyjss87
Maybe if we had proven exemplary cooperation they would've approved the waiver
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:26 am to pankReb
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The downfall of USC is absolutely the vacated national championship and in no way shape or form due to crippling sanctions
Do you seriously not know that the vacated wins, including the vacated 2004 national championship, were part of those CRIPPLING SANCTIONS put on the program by the NCAA?
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:31 am to bttrflyjss87
That didn't cause them to fall off the map at all. The reduction in scholarships and recruiting restrictions did that along with the fact Cali kids are overrated generally. Vacated wins mean nothing everyone knows what happened on the field.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:43 am to DMagic
Those things are related. The vacated wins, the scholarship reductions, and recruiting restrictions were all handed down at the same time.
Because Penn State had all of their vacated wins restored, the two DI football teams with the most vacated wins are currently #1 LSU with 37 and #2 Ole Miss with 33. If this entire season gets vacated down the line, Ole Miss will take the #1 spot on that list. But sure, let’s keep sticking our heads in the sand pretending vacated wins don’t matter.
Because Penn State had all of their vacated wins restored, the two DI football teams with the most vacated wins are currently #1 LSU with 37 and #2 Ole Miss with 33. If this entire season gets vacated down the line, Ole Miss will take the #1 spot on that list. But sure, let’s keep sticking our heads in the sand pretending vacated wins don’t matter.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:46 am to bttrflyjss87
Only you think vacated wins matter. They're a nothing punishment in the grand scheme of things and it's humorous you think otherwise. If they were forfeits that would be an actual punishment but the corrupt and feckless NCAA won't do that.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:01 am to DMagic
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Only you think vacated wins matter
I’m not the only one who thinks that. The impact of vacated wins on legacy effect recruiting and donations. Coaches can lose their Hall of Fame eligibility due to vacated wins (cough Les Miles cough cough).
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