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re: Official 2022 Ole Miss Football Thread. 8-5 SEC: 4-4

Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 12:56 pm to
I mean his shtick was being a family oriented preacher who was also fricking hookers behind his wife’s back. Hard to recover and recruit well in the SEC after that.

No one would care if Kiffin was fricking hookers.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:04 pm to
You can take the man out of Bucksnort but you can't take the Bucksnort out of a man.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:17 pm to
He also went 5-7 his last year and we looked to be trending down.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:17 pm to
Put me down for Freezus rehire too. The man can flat out coach football.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:38 pm to
We lost 5 of our last 6 SEC games. None of the five teams we lost to finished with more than 8 wins.

Everyone keeps glossing over that whole probation thing that happened after he left, too.

It's incredible.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted by RebelVol
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:23 pm to
It blows my mind how some of y’all completely ignore the 2016 shitshow. Do y’all not remember blowing 3 score leads to both FSU and Bama? Getting blown out against Vanderbilt? A 55-20 home egg bowl loss? Or the fact that we finished with 4 total fbs wins?

That’s not even taking into account the head scratching play calls against Memphis in 2015, or red zone plays in general throughout his tenure. Or, like TA said, the probation we were put on since he damn near begged for the ncaa to come and investigate.

The Bama wins, the 2013 signing day, and the sugar bowl are great memories. But frick hugh freeze. We need to stop this talk of getting him back. Dude is a slime ball and always has been. If/when Kiffin leaves we will find someone to come in and replace him but that person won’t be freeze.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:26 pm to
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But frick hugh freeze. We need to stop this talk of getting him back. Dude is a slime ball and always has been. If/when Kiffin leaves we will find someone to come in and replace him but that person won’t be freeze.


This is why High Freeze at Auburn doesn't scare me. Will he have short term success? Yes. But I don't see him winning a title. And I certainly don't see any sustained success.

If Kiffin leaves, Freeze should be last on our list. Below disbanding football and just becoming a baseball only school.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:36 pm to
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It blows my mind how some of y’all completely ignore the 2016 shitshow. Do y’all not remember blowing 3 score leads to both FSU and Bama? Getting blown out against Vanderbilt? A 55-20 home egg bowl loss? Or the fact that we finished with 4 total fbs wins?
Youre going to ignore the other 3 years? He also took a true freshman QB making his first ever start into College Station and knocked off number 9 A&M

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But frick hugh freeze. We need to stop this talk of getting him back. Dude is a slime ball and always has been. If/when Kiffin leaves we will find someone to come in and replace him but that person won’t be freeze.
Who gives a flying frick if he’s a slime ball? He’s paid to win games and is very good at doing that. I don’t give two shits how fake he is and neither should anyone else.

If y’all want someone that’s a good guy that will never lie or break the rules, then we will never be more than a 6-8 win team.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:41 pm to
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It blows my mind how some of y’all completely ignore the 2016 shitshow. Do y’all not remember blowing 3 score leads to both FSU and Bama? Getting blown out against Vanderbilt? A 55-20 home egg bowl loss? Or the fact that we finished with 4 total fbs wins?


In 2016, we gave up 457 rushing yards to a 5-7 State team in the Vaught. We lost by three touchdowns to a 6-6 Vanderbilt team. I don't give a hoot how many injuries we had that season. We had recruited very well for the past 4 years and should've had the depth to replace some players. Hell, we had a five-star QB under center throwing to three future pro bowlers!

What about the other games Freeze laid an egg in? We got absolutely dominated by a 6-6 Arkansas team in 2014. We lost 30-0. We didn't score a point on a .500 football team. We lost a major bowl game by 39 points. There are some substantiated rumors Bo Wallace and other players were partying their asses off the night before the game. They sure played like it.

I think people forget the 2014 Landsharks led the country in scoring defense. What do we have to show for it? A tough win over a good Bama team. That's it. We had the best scoring defense in the country and didn't do jackshit with it.

Don't even get me started on the losses in 2015.

What about the 2016 draft day fiasco? What a bad look for our program on a night where our program had never been as prominent. Remember Tunsil's admission he was paid to play at Ole Miss? Remember the immediate spin from our camp that Tunsil's answer shouldn't matter because he didn't understand the question?

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:45 pm to
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He also took a true freshman QB making his first ever start into College Station and knocked off number 9 A&M


Bro, that #9 A&M team was 8-5 at the end of the season.

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He’s paid to win games and is very good at doing that. I don’t give two shits how fake he is and neither should anyone else.


Is he? Aren't we just reliving some of the absolutely mind blowing losses that happened in his tenure? You can't ignore 2016.

I'm serious, HJJ. Are you paid by Freeze or something? Your devotion to rehiring him is incredible.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11109 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:46 pm to
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If y’all want someone that’s a good guy that will never lie or break the rules, then we will never be more than a 6-8 win team.


By all means we need a coach willing to operate in the Gray as needed. But there's a massive difference between that and the mud Freeze drug us through. And he failed to do in 5 years what Kiffin is on track to do twice in 3 years - win 10 regular season games.

We are willing to pay our HC $7mil plus, that buys us better than Freeze.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:48 pm to
Why are we even speculating about rehiring Freeze? Kiffin is our head coach.
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
8016 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:54 pm to
I agree with all you say and while we're at, you can remove that damn Trump pic. He needs to disappear. Our party needs new blood. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll take this to Political Talk.

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It blows my mind how some of y’all completely ignore the 2016 shitshow. Do y’all not remember blowing 3 score leads to both FSU and Bama? Getting blown out against Vanderbilt? A 55-20 home egg bowl loss? Or the fact that we finished with 4 total fbs wins?

That’s not even taking into account the head scratching play calls against Memphis in 2015, or red zone plays in general throughout his tenure. Or, like TA said, the probation we were put on since he damn near begged for the ncaa to come and investigate.

The Bama wins, the 2013 signing day, and the sugar bowl are great memories. But frick hugh freeze. We need to stop this talk of getting him back. Dude is a slime ball and always has been. If/when Kiffin leaves we will find someone to come in and replace him but that person won’t be freeze.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Or, like TA said, the probation we were put on since he damn near begged for the ncaa to come and investigate.


Of all the Freeze antics, how is the crippling probation and roster depletion the part that's the most ignored?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
76734 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:02 pm to
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And he failed to do in 5 years what Kiffin is on track to do twice in 3 years - win 10 regular season games.
Kiffin has been great. Don’t get me wrong. I love having him. But the 2014 and 2015 teams would absolutely walk through the SEC West as it is right now and beat Kiffin’s teams by 2 TDs minimum
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25503 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:05 pm to
Tunsils gas mask bong
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11109 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:11 pm to
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But the 2014 and 2015 teams would absolutely walk through the SEC West as it is right now


2015 team got abused by Memphis and lost to an average Arkansas team.

2014 team put up 7 points against LSU, and got blown out by an average Arkansas team.

Both are more talented than this years team, but I'm not sure they win. Let alone the fact this years team would be a 7-8 win team under Freeze.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by RebelVol
The Sip
Member since Aug 2016
4835 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:45 pm to
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I agree with all you say and while we're at, you can remove that damn Trump pic. He needs to disappear. Our party needs new blood. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll take this to Political Talk.
fwiw if you zoom in the picture I edited it to say make Arsenal (soccer team) great again but I do tend to agree with you. I think desantis is probably our best shot.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
76734 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:05 pm to
You won’t see me argue that freeze is a better coach than Kiffin. If Kiffin was our coach either of those years, we make it to Atlanta easily once, most likely twice
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Why would you not want someone that you know can recruit like a fricking wild man and beat Alabama?

Freeze's recruiting was mostly mediocre. He landed a few big fish but torpedoed the depth of the program in the last year or so.
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