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re: Who is weaker emotionally
Posted on 12/26/17 at 2:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 12/26/17 at 2:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Outstanding post. Wish I could upvote more than once.
Well said.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 2:11 pm to thomasbrown_2007
Women. I have worked in or led teams of all men and mixed gender groups and it is far harder (as a man) being part of a mixed team because of the differences in how men and women handle emotions.
There are outliers in both genders but men can generally take criticism and direction better, you don't have to worry as much about how they will take it, or saying things nicely. You can just say what needs to be done or what needs to be fixed and it is what it is. It's also far easier to point out errors or deficiencies to men than women.
9/10 of the women that I have worked with or have worked for me had to have direction spoon fed and compliment sandwiched to them to prevent serious emotional conniptions. I've met some damn strong women though and weak men as well - there are exceptions to every rule. Age plays a huge factor as well, almost more than gender.
I'm just speaking anecdotally, I acknowledge the suicide point and that others' experiences will differ. I'm also not saying that women don't work well or that I don't want to work with them, just that they're different than men and mixed teams are more complicated...which are both common sense points really.
There are outliers in both genders but men can generally take criticism and direction better, you don't have to worry as much about how they will take it, or saying things nicely. You can just say what needs to be done or what needs to be fixed and it is what it is. It's also far easier to point out errors or deficiencies to men than women.
9/10 of the women that I have worked with or have worked for me had to have direction spoon fed and compliment sandwiched to them to prevent serious emotional conniptions. I've met some damn strong women though and weak men as well - there are exceptions to every rule. Age plays a huge factor as well, almost more than gender.
I'm just speaking anecdotally, I acknowledge the suicide point and that others' experiences will differ. I'm also not saying that women don't work well or that I don't want to work with them, just that they're different than men and mixed teams are more complicated...which are both common sense points really.
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 3:04 pm to CNB
Women have far more unsuccessful suicide attempts. Men have fewer attempts with a much higher success rate.
Conclusion: women, to the end, are theatrically dramatic while men, once a decision is made, say frick it and complete the task.
Conclusion: women, to the end, are theatrically dramatic while men, once a decision is made, say frick it and complete the task.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 3:31 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Men die by suicide 3.5x more often than women.
Women attempt suicide 2x more often than men.
Women just can't do anything right
Posted on 12/26/17 at 4:17 pm to deltaland
I think this is unfair to say that they're 'bad' at suicide, because it's more on their method of doing so. Men are more likely to shoot themselves which is the most successful method. 93% of Suicides are ''Failed'', so it's not like one gender is really fricking it over, most people don't do it well.
The method determines more often than the gender, and women self-poison more often than say shooting themselves or even hanging. Most people don't know what a lethal dosage is, and a lot of times they are definitely taking it seriously but just aren't educated enough on to what may actually kill them.
The method determines more often than the gender, and women self-poison more often than say shooting themselves or even hanging. Most people don't know what a lethal dosage is, and a lot of times they are definitely taking it seriously but just aren't educated enough on to what may actually kill them.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I think this is unfair to say that they're 'bad' at suicide, because it's more on their method of doing so. Men are more likely to shoot themselves which is the most successful method. 93% of Suicides are ''Failed'', so it's not like one gender is really fricking it over, most people don't do it well.
The method determines more often than the gender, and women self-poison more often than say shooting themselves or even hanging. Most people don't know what a lethal dosage is, and a lot of times they are definitely taking it seriously but just aren't educated enough on to what may actually kill them.
Do you believe this explains the entire disparity? Or do you believe it's possible that women are more likely than men to attempt suicide as a "cry for help" rather than a genuine desire to die?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:35 pm to Papplesbeast
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Do you believe this explains the entire disparity? Or do you believe it's possible that women are more likely than men to attempt suicide as a "cry for help" rather than a genuine desire to die?
I think there's some truth to that. I would also add that even women who genuinely do want to die are probably still less inclined than men to want to do so in the kind of messy, violent ways that would lead to near certain death - like swallowing a bullet or jumping head first out of a tall building or bridge. Therefore, their chosen methods (like trying to OD) may not be as effective.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:57 pm to Globetrotter747
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Do you believe this explains the entire disparity? Or do you believe it's possible that women are more likely than men to attempt suicide as a "cry for help" rather than a genuine desire to die?
I think there's some truth to that. I would also add that even women who genuinely do want to die are probably still less inclined than men to want to do so in the kind of messy, violent ways that would lead to near certain death - like swallowing a bullet or jumping head first out of a tall building or bridge. Therefore, their chosen methods (like trying to OD) may not be as effective.
I will say that there are definitive ''cries for help'' or things of that nature, but also to the second poster: Their style is far less successful. I think a lot of people think they want to die, and while they're in the middle of ''dying'' they either change their mind or they survive and realize that they actually don't want to die.
The ''weakness'' portion of suicide to me seems stupid, as Veterans and Active Duty Servicemembers are those most afflicted by suicide. In my experience, everyone has a story to tell -- and there are some terrifyingly tragic stories that people have. That's why when I see words like ''weak'' I generally try to avoid using it.
For behavior, however, I'm happy to enter into the fray and make stronger assertions.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Outstanding post. Wish I could upvote more than once.
Well said.
Praise from Caesar is praise indeed.
I hope you and yours are well on this fine post-Christmas stretch.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:50 pm to thomasbrown_2007
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Men or women???
Georgia fans
Posted on 12/29/17 at 12:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Likewise!
We're great. Visit with the in-laws was terrific. Looking forward to 2018.
We're great. Visit with the in-laws was terrific. Looking forward to 2018.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 5:09 am to Pavoloco83
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Georgia fans
Still melting, over the seccg, I see.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 5:40 am to Pavoloco83
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:49 am to UGADawg912
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Still melting, over the seccg, I see
Nah, yall won fair and square in the SECCG. Plus we skull fricked you in Auburn.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:50 pm to Pavoloco83
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Plus we skull fricked you in Auburn
Well, at least we returned the favor and broke in the new Mercedes-Benz stadium the right way. It only seemed right that UGA would win the 1st ever SECCG played in the stadium, but good job on that skull fricking in Auburn when it didn't matter.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:59 pm to thomasbrown_2007
The answer is...both
I have seen women handle things I couldn't even imagine. Toughest people in my life are women, and I have many friends in biker gangs in the area(sold at Harley, they accumulate).
Men handle emotions better though. But we break down harder. We are more likely to commit suicide, murder, etc.
Women control them better, we show them less.
I have seen women handle things I couldn't even imagine. Toughest people in my life are women, and I have many friends in biker gangs in the area(sold at Harley, they accumulate).
Men handle emotions better though. But we break down harder. We are more likely to commit suicide, murder, etc.
Women control them better, we show them less.
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