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Who is weaker emotionally
Posted on 12/25/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 12/25/17 at 11:38 am
Men or women???
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Posted on 12/25/17 at 12:57 pm to thomasbrown_2007
Women are weaker emotionally but handle it better than men, for the most part. They're more likely to confide in others and/or get help.
Men will bottle their feelings instead of seeking out the help that they need.
Men are more likely to commit suicide than women.
Men will bottle their feelings instead of seeking out the help that they need.
Men are more likely to commit suicide than women.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 1:09 pm to thomasbrown_2007
Trumpkins on the Polo board. everything triggers them.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 3:02 pm to CNB
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Women are weaker emotionally but handle it better than men, for the most par
Women are more likely to get emotional... and then get it out of the way. Men, as you said, tend to bottle it up until it erupts with a full scale breakdown.
Of the two I'd rather be more prone to crying then suicide. I can get over a good cry but a good death seems pretty final.
Fortunately, as a Razorbacks fan, I know that I have already hit my emotional lows for the year. There is something to said for the numbness our football program brings out.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 3:51 pm to Arksulli
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Women are more likely to get emotional... and then get it out of the way. Men, as you said, tend to bottle it up until it erupts with a full scale breakdown.
Might one counter that when men do get emotional or breakdown it's generally for more significant reasons and that's why they may not appear to handle it as well...?
Posted on 12/25/17 at 4:43 pm to thomasbrown_2007
Women.
Men pressed on the the fear that it took to sail into the unknown to discover continents.
Men pressed on thru their fear to land on the moon.
Men pressed on thru their fear to land at D-Day and face almost certain death.
At no point did those men need to "just stop and have a good cry".
Men pressed on the the fear that it took to sail into the unknown to discover continents.
Men pressed on thru their fear to land on the moon.
Men pressed on thru their fear to land at D-Day and face almost certain death.
At no point did those men need to "just stop and have a good cry".
Posted on 12/25/17 at 5:32 pm to thomasbrown_2007
I think weaker is a weird word to use, but I'd say that women are: Faster to become upset by the mundane.
There are obviously men who exhibit this kind of trait, but men are told from a very young age to ''get over it'', and it's almost ubiquitous in every culture.
Before entering the military myself, I had a cat that nearly died in my arms and it devastated me. I loved the big blob, and he had apparently been stolen from my yard and tortured (left in a box to die), and when he finally got home he could barely move. So I skipped work (I was 17) to basically watch my cat die since I didn't have the money to take him in.
Well, my dad came home and saw me on the back porch and talked about how soft I was -- I mean, he held the hand of a friend of his while she died in front of him and if I was going to join the military, well I'd better toughen up. However, he took me to the vet and paid to save my cat and never asked me to pay him back.
I then thought about how he treated my step/adoptive sisters, and you can see it in many different families -- my sister missed her favorite television show once because she overslept, and was bawling her eyes out. He gave her a big ol' strong hug, and she just cried and cried and cried and that's part of it, isn't it?
They're taught it's perfectly fine to be upset, and really, there's no problem for them to express themselves when they are indeed upset. I'm not part of the ''this is a weak generation'' kind of group, but I do understand that the more you permit someone to do something, the more likely they're to think it's okay.
I also have extensive experience from not just the military, but my job as a teacher right now. Women have quit my classes for a variety of rather strange reasons, one being upset that I told her that she needed to ''study at home''. I work with professionals, too, and for the most part I have trouble with women. Sometimes it's how I dress (I'm my own boss), others it's how completely cold I am -- a girl threatened to call immigration on me (I am legal at this time) because I told her I didn't want to continue classes with her.
In summary, and the most important point: Emotions are shown to be a weakness for most men, and tolerated for most women, and in my opinion this acceptance encourages them to be 'broken' more easily.
There are obviously men who exhibit this kind of trait, but men are told from a very young age to ''get over it'', and it's almost ubiquitous in every culture.
Before entering the military myself, I had a cat that nearly died in my arms and it devastated me. I loved the big blob, and he had apparently been stolen from my yard and tortured (left in a box to die), and when he finally got home he could barely move. So I skipped work (I was 17) to basically watch my cat die since I didn't have the money to take him in.
Well, my dad came home and saw me on the back porch and talked about how soft I was -- I mean, he held the hand of a friend of his while she died in front of him and if I was going to join the military, well I'd better toughen up. However, he took me to the vet and paid to save my cat and never asked me to pay him back.
I then thought about how he treated my step/adoptive sisters, and you can see it in many different families -- my sister missed her favorite television show once because she overslept, and was bawling her eyes out. He gave her a big ol' strong hug, and she just cried and cried and cried and that's part of it, isn't it?
They're taught it's perfectly fine to be upset, and really, there's no problem for them to express themselves when they are indeed upset. I'm not part of the ''this is a weak generation'' kind of group, but I do understand that the more you permit someone to do something, the more likely they're to think it's okay.
I also have extensive experience from not just the military, but my job as a teacher right now. Women have quit my classes for a variety of rather strange reasons, one being upset that I told her that she needed to ''study at home''. I work with professionals, too, and for the most part I have trouble with women. Sometimes it's how I dress (I'm my own boss), others it's how completely cold I am -- a girl threatened to call immigration on me (I am legal at this time) because I told her I didn't want to continue classes with her.
In summary, and the most important point: Emotions are shown to be a weakness for most men, and tolerated for most women, and in my opinion this acceptance encourages them to be 'broken' more easily.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 5:48 pm to UnAnon
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Trumpkins on the Polo board. everything triggers them.
Don't forget Hillary supporters in real life, who literally had an organized day to scream at the sky.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 6:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Good post, SDAR.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 6:14 pm to Globetrotter747
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Might one counter that when men do get emotional or breakdown it's generally for more significant reasons and that's why they may not appear to handle it as well...?
No, and I will get downvoted for this, men, and God knows the last time I checked I was one, dial it back to be strong.
We take the kicks to the balls stoically. Until we can't.
I've walked through hell covered in gasoline and put up a happy face and I'm here to tell you that sooner or later you pay the piper.
For us its not a major event that sets us off, though that will do it. Rather its the accumulation of events. Maybe its something major, maybe its something minor but sooner or later you hit that tipping point and lose your shite.
Which is why blowing off steam, venting, is so important. You need to be able to let go. If you don't, it will build up and eat at you. Male, female, gender to be determined at a future date... you have to have a release for all that life piles on top of you.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 7:01 pm to CNB
Women are much more likely to commit suucide
Posted on 12/25/17 at 7:05 pm to Arksulli
''There is nothing wrong with being scared... as long as you don't let it affect you until the danger is over. Being hysterical is okay, too... afterwards and in private. Tears are not unmanly... in the bathroom with the door locked. The difference between a coward and a brave man is mostly a matter of timing.''
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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''There is nothing wrong with being scared... as long as you don't let it affect you until the danger is over. Being hysterical is okay, too... afterwards and in private. Tears are not unmanly... in the bathroom with the door locked. The difference between a coward and a brave man is mostly a matter of timing.''
Too true. Sometimes you just need to hold it together for another hour.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:40 pm to UnAnon
quote:melt, baby
Trumpkins on the Polo board. everything triggers them.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:54 pm to Bear88
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Women are much more likely to commit suucide
No. They aren't.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 11:02 pm to CNB
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Women are much more likely to commit suucide
No. They aren't.
Commit, no, but attempt, yes. Just for statistics.
The annual age-adjusted suicide rate is 13.26 per 100,000 individuals.
Men die by suicide 3.5x more often than women.
Women attempt suicide 2x more often than men.
On average, there are 121 suicides per day.
White males accounted for 7 of 10 suicides in 2015.
Firearms account for almost 50% of all suicides.
The rate of suicide is highest in middle age—white men in particular.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 12:10 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Yes I mean attempted and yes men are more successful bc they generally use a firearm whereas women don’t
Posted on 12/26/17 at 1:22 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
There is no such thing as ‘attempting’ to commit suicide. You don’t slit your wrists or jump off a 10 foot deck to commit suicide. If someone doesn’t successfully commit suicide, then they weren’t ever serious about it and were just looking for attention. It’s pretty damn easy to put a gun to your head and end it all.
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 1:23 am
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:59 am to thomasbrown_2007
Not much of a difference anymore. Men are slowly becoming wusses.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 1:32 pm to ZOU
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There is no such thing as ‘attempting’ to commit suicide. You don’t slit your wrists or jump off a 10 foot deck to commit suicide. If someone doesn’t successfully commit suicide, then they weren’t ever serious about it and were just looking for attention. It’s pretty damn easy to put a gun to your head and end it all.
I was posting statistics???
And of course attempted suicide exists, that's...a strangely stupid thing to say. People try all the time (especially with pills) and are saved, or fail (Firearms have a 90% lethality rate).
People jump from planes and live, you don't think some of them don't jump off of bridges and accidentally live? I also lived in a neighborhood where a man shot himself in the head, only to live -- people jump off cliffs and get their jaws ripped to pieces and live.
Those of us who have actually seen combat know that people can live through a lot, and to think that those who fail suicide attempts aren't serious about it is not just ignorant, it's painfully stupid.
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