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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:59 pm to Gladius Veritas
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there is more to it than the official cost being zero or near zero. If I was on a computer Id find some studies on this, but I can't right now
I've seen a published study that says you and Stonehog suck each others dicks while wearing clown noses.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:59 pm to polydorr
Did a liberal frick your wife or something?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:59 pm to polydorr
Here's a link you should read because you don't know what you're talking about.
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And I find it funny that you blame liberals for making this a partisan issue. Voter ID laws didn't become an issue until the Republicans gained some seats in Congress in 2010. Then it really ramped up right before we were about to elect a black president to a second term.
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And I find it funny that you blame liberals for making this a partisan issue. Voter ID laws didn't become an issue until the Republicans gained some seats in Congress in 2010. Then it really ramped up right before we were about to elect a black president to a second term.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:02 pm to Stonehog
They aren't wrong that it's a good idea if simply to add legitimacy to elections. As I've stated, they pretty much need to hand out the IDs for it to be accpetable, but there's nothing on its face that is discriminatory if they exhaust every effort to get IDs in the hands of every single registered voter.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:41 pm to Stonehog
Since we're handing out links:
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See? We can circle all day. 'My evidence is better than your evidence.'
While the GOP no doubt has an ulterior motive bringing it up, the Democrats no doubt have an ulterior motive suppressing it or making it into a political correctness issue. You don't really have much ground to stand on when much of the civilized world does this and sees no problem with it. End of story.
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See? We can circle all day. 'My evidence is better than your evidence.'
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And I find it funny that you blame liberals for making this a partisan issue. Voter ID laws didn't become an issue until the Republicans gained some seats in Congress in 2010.
While the GOP no doubt has an ulterior motive bringing it up, the Democrats no doubt have an ulterior motive suppressing it or making it into a political correctness issue. You don't really have much ground to stand on when much of the civilized world does this and sees no problem with it. End of story.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:54 pm to polydorr
In all three of your links, it's not talking about voter impersonation, which is the only type of voter fraud that an ID would prevent.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:26 pm to Stonehog
So what's the problem?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 5:43 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:00 pm to the808bass
That story is about non-US citizens voting.
You do realize that non-citizens can still get a driver's license...
You do realize that non-citizens can still get a driver's license...
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:19 pm to Stonehog
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That story is about non-US citizens voting. You do realize that non-citizens can still get a driver's license...
Yes. I'm merely pointing out some problems with election integrity. Do you want more?
Eta: stories like these lead people to believe that our election system is fraught with problems. They then seek solutions that don't make the most sense. Voter ID is such a response.
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:21 pm to Stonehog
You are really testing the limits of the healing powers of segregated cum vats.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:28 pm to the808bass
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Yes. I'm merely pointing out some problems with election integrity.
This entire thread has only been about voter IDs. There are all kinds of voter fraud that occur much more frequently than voter impersonation, mostly corruption cases. None of which would be solved by voter IDs.
I never argued that voter fraud occurred.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:29 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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You are really testing the limits of the healing powers of segregated cum vats.
Fine, I'm out. I'm tired of owning 808 anyway, I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:38 pm to Stonehog
Can we at least agree that accurate voter rolls would be effective at eliminating voter fraud without disinfranchising anyone but corpses?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:46 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I can agree with that.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:47 pm to Stonehog
frick, I wanted you to disagree 
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:49 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Yep.
You'll finally have full agreement in one of you "can we at least agree" posts.
You'll finally have full agreement in one of you "can we at least agree" posts.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:52 pm to Stonehog
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This entire thread has only been about voter IDs. There are all kinds of voter fraud that occur much more frequently than voter impersonation, mostly corruption cases. None of which would be solved by voter IDs.
And if you'd read the thread, I don't feel that Voter Id is a reasonable solution now. I just find the typical arguments against voter ID as you are "articulating" are ridiculous.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:52 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I haven't agreed with dead people voting ever since I saw Black Sheep.
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"The fact is, Winston Sabitch was killed in the Argonne Forest in 1918. A zeppelin landed on his head, smashing his head clean out of his arse. That's my granddad.
Rest in pieces, sir."
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