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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:40 am to We_Need_Cam
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:40 am to We_Need_Cam
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It is all about where that word comes from.
So you're telling me marriage didn't exist until the Old Testament was written?
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:42 am to We_Need_Cam
Also health care. Like the ability to visit the spouse in a hospital.
I think a couple of weeks ago a gay man in Missouri was arrested for not wanting to leave his partners bed side. The guy even had power of attorney.
I think a couple of weeks ago a gay man in Missouri was arrested for not wanting to leave his partners bed side. The guy even had power of attorney.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:42 am to We_Need_Cam
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So because the divorce rate is high we should let anything be called marriage? Sorry, that doesn't compute. Besides the financial aspect, I don't see why gays want to get married. It comes from a book that also hates them and condemns them to hell. Just call it something else and I will give 0 fricks.
Why do you care what they call it? I don't get this. I don't care who is married and who isn't. It is just a label, and a government granted label no less. So the Bible should factor in to it zero. Or do you think Muslims shouldn't be allowed to marry? You know Christians don't have a monopoly on marriage. They didn't invent it.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:42 am to robby1220
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then they need to level the playing field a little and have the women and men stop using different locker rooms, showers, etc. Starship Troopers style.
Now this is a idea I can get behind.. :rimshot:
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:46 am to We_Need_Cam
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So because the divorce rate is high we should let anything be called marriage?
Just don't pull the sacred bullshite.
Hindus consider cows sacred, and you know what? They don't eat fricking hamburgers. They actually uphold the sanctity of what they hold sacred.
Marriage wasn't invented by Christianity either.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:59 am to Randy1375
I wouldn't care either way. Doesn't bother me.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:05 am to CNB
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:06 am to Randy1375
I support it. I'm not a bigot.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:33 am to cas4t
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I support it. I'm not a bigot.
Automatically labeling someone a bigot and less intellectually progressive than you based on a disagreement, by definition, makes you a bigot.
Again, its the great irony of this line of thinking.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:34 am to TeLeFaWx
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It is just a label, and a government granted label no less. So the Bible should factor in to it zero.
This all day long.
We cannot have a "separation of church and state" and make/uphold laws based on the church's beliefs. It just doesn't work that way. So whether or not it is okay by religious standards and whether it should be legal by state standards are two totally different topics for me. And I am answering the latter here.
The courts have gone out of their way to make this state we call marriage a legally binding contract between 2 individuals. Gay people who are of age can enter into any other legally binding contract in this country. Why not this one?
And I speak here to more than gay marriage on this whole separation issue. There is no good reason not to sell alcohol on Sunday, yet it was illegal in GA up until last year. There are I'm sure a number of other "laws" that are only in place because the church says it's wrong, and that's fricked up to me.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:38 am to TeLeFaWx
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It is a tax bracket. And Constitutionally, all people are afforded the same rights afforded to others. Marriage is a legal status that benefits a different tax status, and therefore shouldn't be exclusive to any one group.
Heres something people need to understand: Gay marriage isnt about EQUAL rights, its about NEW rights. A gay man has the exact same marriage rights as a straight man and a straight man has no more right to marry another man than a gay man does. All people have the same ability to marry.
This isnt like the civil rights movement where one group was not afforded some of the rights that others were. This is about changing a definitionmand developing new rights, not leveling the playing field.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:42 am to robby1220
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:45 am to Randy1375
don't care enough to oppose so I guess I support.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:46 am to Roger Klarvin
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Heres something people need to understand: Gay marriage isnt about EQUAL rights, its about NEW rights. A gay man has the exact same marriage rights as a straight man and a straight man has no more right to marry another man than a gay man does. All people have the same ability to marry.
This isnt like the civil rights movement where one group was not afforded some of the rights that others were. This is about changing a definitionmand developing new rights, not leveling the playing field.
Come on, what percentage of men who want to marry another man are gay and what percentage only thought "I Now Pronounce You Chuck And Larry" was just such a good movie that it really opened their eyes to the vast financial benefits and possibilities of same-sex heterosexual marriage?
I'd say about 99.9% of men who want to marry another man and feel offended that they can't are in fact homosexual and probably as in love as any straight people who decide to get married.
You can't say it is about anything other than the fact that they are gay. It is about equal rights.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:48 am to robby1220
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the church says it's wrong, and that's fricked up to me.
The church says it's wrong because in a marriage, according to them, the man is the master and the woman is a submissive servant. That's not possible if two men get married.
Basically, the Christian definition of a marriage is the opportunity for a man to tie down a sandwich making, house cleaning sex-slave for life.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:49 am to Arkla Missy
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It is my belief that marriage is a basic human right for a male and a female.
That's fricking retarded. Marriage is an institution created by humans, so it can't be a "basic human right."
If it's a basic human right, it would apply to all humans, not just the ones you deem worthy.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:55 am to Stonehog
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:58 am to Randy1375
Yes. People should be free to marry who they want regardless of sexual identity and orientation.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:59 am to Randy1375
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What about this A transexual male marries a man? Do you support that?
Why wouldn't you?
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