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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:38 am
Let's start off with the easiest category, IMO:

ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES

1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?

3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?

4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?

5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?

6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:42 am to
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:42 am to
1. The government shouldn't be increasing regulations in most situations, so I'm going to go with no. Global Warming is a cyclical event. We're not hurdling towards some out of hand climate situation.

2. Yes. Period. Maybe we can scale back the funding, I'm not sure where the number is at, but I have visited many National Parks growing up and couldn't imagine the country without iconic places such as Yellowstone and the like.

3. Sure

4. I think the consumer has a right to know what is in their food, but again, I think this is a little too much government involvement.

5. Yes. Not the government, but it should be allowed.

6. No. Period.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:46 am to
1. No it's hard enough to build production facilities (not just o&g but all industries) as it is and a lot of what they propose is cost prohibited and just sends more jobs and money overseas.

2. Yes nothing more to say.

3.Yes but I want it regulated and monitored by someone who knows wtf they are doing.

4.Yes but only for the final consumer to make an informed choice.

5.Yes we need fossil fuels and until we don't we need to exhaust all efforts to extract it safely.

6.I'm divided on this on the one hand yes we need to explore alternate energy sources but when government money is involved it turns into a money grab by most and not a viable way to implement a solution.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:48 am to
1. Yes, though I'd be more supportive of incentives for companies that work to limit their contribution to global warming.

2. Absolutely. It should be expanded, IMO.

3. I'm somewhat neutral on fracking, as I admittedly am rather ignorant on the subject. I lean yes, as long as there are tight regulations.

4. Yes. When the biggest opponent to the labeling is Monsanto, that makes me uncomfortable. I know GMO foods are safe to eat, but I'd like to know when I am eating them.

5. No.

6. Absolutely. The entire alternative energy sector should be subsidized until those forms are readily and affordably accessible to a majority of citizens.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:53 am to
1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?

I think GW is a naturally occurring phenomena. But that doesn't mean we can't/don't do damage to the environment. Reasonable regulations should be implemented and oversight should be in place.

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?

Absolutely. I wouldn't be against expanding some a bit either in this area.

3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?

I'm not versed in this very well, so I can't give an educated answer.

4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?

Yes.

5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?

Not at this time.

6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?

No.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:54 am to
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5. No


Why?

quote:

The entire alternative energy sector should be subsidized


Man. I agree we need alternate forms of energy but why is the government supposed to be paying for it? Give incentives for companies to come up with forms, but don't subsidize it. We HAVE to get government spending under control. That is one thing that most of us should at least be able to agree upon...
Posted by MasCervezas
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:55 am to
i'm really apathetic when it comes to politics, but I know you put some work into this post so I felt compelled to reply;

1. No, i'm all for decreased government involvement

2. Yes, a little nature never hurt anybody

3. not sure what fracking is, so I can't answer

4. hmmmmm. I don't see why they would unless the food was harmful.

5. yes, anything to become less dependent on the Middle Eastern buttholes

6. nahh
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:56 am to
quote:

But that doesn't mean we can't/don't do damage to the environment. Reasonable regulations should be implemented and oversight should be in place.


Agreed, but there is already regulations in place. I just don't think we need any more. The only thing more regulations will achieve is some politician receiving some bullshite award.

Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4415 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:57 am to
quote:

1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?

I think GW is a naturally occurring phenomena. But that doesn't mean we can't/don't do damage to the environment. Reasonable regulations should be implemented and oversight should be in place.

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?

Absolutely. I wouldn't be against expanding some a bit either in this area.

3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?

I'm not versed in this very well, so I can't give an educated answer.

4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?

Yes.

5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?

Not at this time.

6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?

No.


What that guy said.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:57 am to


Thanks, looks like we agree in most of these areas.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:58 am to
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Why?



Because I hate looking at the platforms in the Gulf when I visit Fort Morgan.

Honestly, I just don't trust the O&G industry enough to kep the practice safe, nor the government to hold them accountable when they frick up. See: BP oil spill. The fact that nobody is going to prison for that is a travesty.

quote:

We HAVE to get government spending under control. That is one thing that most of us should at least be able to agree upon...


I don't agree with that. I have no problem with government spending when it's intended for the betterment of the country. I think we're in desperate need of government investment in infrastructure and alternative energy.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:59 am to
1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?

Yes, by putting pressure on China and India. Increased CO2 in the atmosphere is a huge problem, but our economy is already transitioning quite well, and any major regulation on our end is going to be counterproductive. China and India however need some serious reform.

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?

Of course, outside of ANWR. We could totally drill that shite without environmental damage.

3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?

Yes.

4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?

If any sort of study comes from the FDA saying it's any different than normal food.

5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?

frick yes.

6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?

Yes. Wind out in West Texas is booming. Government capital to help in the early stages of an industry that requires tons of infrastructure and upfront costs is a good thing. Increase subsidies to nuclear while we are at it. And high speed rail.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:04 am
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?


Yes, but the regulation structure matters. Industry is over regulated in many ways and this increases the costs of doing business and increases the economies of scale for new entrants.

It makes more sense to regulate electricity to use natural gas over coal. Incentives should be in place to promote nuclear power generation. Tax breaks to companies who find ways to lower carbon emissions.

Climate change is happening, but we have to be realistic on what measures we put in place to deal with it. You can't just blanket regulations and expect no political and economic backlash.

quote:

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?


Yes.

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3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?


Yes. Natural gas is relatively clean burning and energy independence is important for our geopolitical goals. Also the greater the supply of energy, the cheaper it will be. Economic boost and more freedom for workers to move jobs or start a business without the drag of energy prices on every good and service.

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4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?


No. While I want GMO producers to be better actors in the market, there's no need to put a stigma on GMOs. That's the only way we're going to be able to feed a growing global population. Just wish it all didn't go to corn and soybeans.

quote:

5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?


Yes, based on reasoning for fracing.

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6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?


I'd give grants to universities and R&D to research more cost effective methods and let companies use those advances when the technology is cost effective.

Perhaps some tax credits in the future for solar paneling your house, but when it's actually worth the investment.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Man. I agree we need alternate forms of energy but why is the government supposed to be paying for it? Give incentives for companies to come up with forms, but don't subsidize it. We HAVE to get government spending under control. That is one thing that most of us should at least be able to agree upon...


Because it's one of those things that will literally help everyone. Cheaper electric bills across the board.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:03 am to
quote:

ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
1. Should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming?
No

2. Should National Parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government?
Yes

3. Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources?
Yes
4. Should the United States require labeling of genetically engineered foods?
No
5. Should the U.S. expand offshore oil drilling?
Eh. Do we need to expand it?
6. Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?
Tax credits, maybe. Subsidies, no.

Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I think we're in desperate need of government investment in infrastructure



I agree with this but do you know that when the government puts it's skin in the game it makes the cost of an infrastructure project rise significantly, no numbers to back this up just real world experience. There are so many things you have to do to be compliant in regards to policies involving minority owed businesses, who can and who can't truck your supplies etc, that you can get more bang for the buck if they stayed out of it. The problem is that without the government money most states wouldn't fix shite. So it's a catch 22





Eta for spelling
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Honestly, I just don't trust the O&G industry enough to kep the practice safe


Well, I agree and disagree. Yes, you have a huge frick up by BP, but you have also had a LOT of oil extracted with no problems at all.

quote:

nor the government to hold them accountable when they frick up. See: BP oil spill. The fact that nobody is going to prison for that is a travesty.


Absolutely agree. The government definitely needs to hold them accountable. I am from the coast and saw first hand the damage it caused but you can't completely do away with it because of one crisis.

quote:

I don't agree with that


Somehow we have to. We can't keep spending into oblivion. Yes, government spending is good, but not always and somewhere there needs to be cuts.

quote:

I have no problem with government spending when it's intended for the betterment of the country.


Agreed. Infrastructure definitely would be a place I would be all in for.

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alternative energy.


Let the private sector do some work. Give incentives, do things to make it more appealing, but the wind energy has taken a huge hit when it comes to ROI.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Yes, by putting pressure on China and India.


How?

Forcing them to cleaner tech while trying to develope their economies is a fool's errand. Our progress will make the cleaner tech cheaper and the added efficiency will drive them to better tech naturally.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Forcing them to cleaner tech while trying to develope their economies is a fool's errand. Our progress will make the cleaner tech cheaper and the added efficiency will drive them to better tech naturally.





True but you must always remember the almighty dollar runs the show and if think the heads of industry over there aren't just a greedy, if not more so than the ones here, you are mistaken. I know we can't force them to do a damn thing but we can show them what happened when we didn't know any better and try to help them from making the same mistakes.
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