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re: This thing is getting scary

Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:21 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:21 am to
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It appears the NYC area is going to be the hardest hit area in the country. So far, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut account for over 59% of all cases in the US. So far, the fatality rate in these three states is running better than the rest of the country at 0.80% compared to 1.74% in the rest of the United States. Let's hope that low fatality rate holds, however as hospitals become overcrowded it may be difficult to keep that number below 1%.


I would guess it will rise a little in the densely populated areas as time goes on. Thankfully as a whole we are not as crowded as a country compared to many of the European ones. That is a factor that will no doubt play into our advantage.

Italy is basically the same land size as Arizona to put that more into perspective.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Italy is basically the same land size as Arizona to put that more into perspective.


Land size means nothing in this context. Take Italy’s 79M population and Arizona’s 7M. Do the 6 feet of separation our govt suggests. A lot more 6’ available in Arizona than almost all of Italy.

Stats are wonderful but really we are in slo-motion action/reaction to what already happened elsewhere. NYC had it’s 1st diagnosed case around 3/1. They now have 12,000+ in NYC as of 3/23.

Keep the f away from other peeps. I’m mandated to go to work today even though I live in a shelter in place state. Sucks for me & may suck more for my wife & relatives already furloughed unless I sleep in my car. I really hate life & making decisions right now.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:29 pm to
Here are the individual US States ranked by number of fatalities per 1 Million Citizens:

12.48- Washington
8.07- New York
8.01- Vermont
7.31- Louisiana
3.04- New Jersey
2.83- District of Columbia
2.35- Georgia
2.24- Connecticut
1.50- Michigan
1.22- Colorado
1.13- South Dakota
1.04- Indiana
0.95- Oregon
0.89- California
0.74- New Hampshire

Those are the Top 15. It's very early, but currently there are 16 states still without a single fatality.... and those states include 37.1 milliion people (over 10% of the US population).

We'll see how things progress, for in the short-term, the bulk of the serious cases as well as deaths are in Seattle and New York City. Things in New Orleans are also not looking so good.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28542 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 2:20 pm to
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Land size means nothing in this context.


That was the point though. I think everyone knows that Italy is much bigger in population than Arizona. If you just know that the point really hits home and then some when you dig deeper.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:06 pm to
Here are how the major metros in the SEC footprint have been affected so far. Best I can figure, here are the total number of cases in each metro (% of US cases):

928- New Orleans (2.23%)
515- Miami (1.24%)
426- Atlanta (1.02%)
278- Nashville (0.67%)
205- Dallas (0.49%)
145- Memphis (0.35%)
122- Houston (0.29%)
112- Tampa (0.27%)
100- Birmingham (0.24%)
100- Austin (0.24%)
80- St. Louis (0.19%)
78- Orlando (0.19%)
72- Kansas City (0.17%)
65- Jacksonville (0.12%)
51- San Antonio (0.12%)
37- Louisville (0.09%)

Granted, this is just diagnosed cases at this point. I'm a bit surprised at the low numbers out of Texas, Florida, and Missouri. Good for them unless its just a result of not enough testing being done.

New Orleans is extremely high. I'm afraid its going to be badly affected from this.
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:15 pm to
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That was the point though. I think everyone knows that Italy is much bigger in population than Arizona. If you just know that the point really hits home and then some when you dig deeper.


Sorry. It was not clear to me. I think everything our little Secrant group is saying is: things are going to get much worse for the World and America in terms of cases & deaths. Basically nothing is surprising me anymore.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26166 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:20 pm to
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MS now has more Covid cases than my current state of VA despite being much more rural and having ~5.6M fewer people. People aren’t taking it seriously there.

MS has tested 1,392 people and VA has tested 3,337.




That is scary news. A lot of the smaller states just do not have the resources to deal with major testing. It is not a lack of will to do so, they just don't have the means to do so.

The Governor of Arkansas is saying he thinks Arkansas won't hit peak Coronavirus infection until several weeks from now. This is going to be a siege I fear.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:56 pm to
Here are the number of Global Deaths the past 16 days:

3/8: 105
3/9: 228
3/10: 198
3/11: 271
3/12: 302
3/13: 353
3/14: 448
3/15: 404
3/16: 686
3/17: 642
3/18: 817
3/19: 973
3/20: 1,080
3/21: 1,356
3/22: 1,626
3/23: 1,634 (so far)

If you take a 2-day average for each date (AVG of current day and day before) to help clean up the data a bit, you'll see that most every day is seeing global fatalities equal between 2.00 and 2.10 times one week earlier.

So if this trend continues, we're looking at global daily deaths equaling around 3,400 one week from now, and possibly 6,800 two weeks from now. Who knows if the same escalation will take place, but I think arguments can be made that it might actually increase as it spreads to other parts of the world currently not affected quite as badly.

Italy is now 28 days past the point of seeing its 10th fatality.... and things are not even close to slowing down there.

Iran is 32 days in, and active cases are still on the rise.

The USA is just 20 days in.
France is just 17 days in.
The UK is just 12 days in.
The Netherlands is just 11 days in.
Switzerland is just 11 days iin.
Germany is just 9 days in.

Other countries like Indonesia, Turkey, Malaysia, etc. are showing signs of an escalating crisis but are even further behind in their cycle.

I'm afraid we are 4 weeks out at best for seeing global cases reach their peak. Other countries should reach their peak prior to that, but I believe we are 4-6 weeks out from the entire world reaching peak. Hopefully I'm wrong. But if it continues on trend, we're looking at hundreds of thousands of fatalities worldwide... possibly worse.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28542 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:25 pm to
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things are going to get much worse for the World and America in terms of cases & deaths. Basically nothing is surprising me anymore.




Yeah, I think there have been some positive aspects we have seen a little bit regarding America but still a long way to go and everyone has to continue to take it seriously.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:24 pm to
Apparently New York’s mortality rate has dropped to 0.92%
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:28 pm to
Excellent!
Gotta give it to the people of NY. I’ve only lived here for 5 years and have had nothing but an amazing experience being here, everyone has always been extremely neighborly and friendly even before this
But now it’s just something different. Entire community i coming together, working together to kick this viruses arse, and it’s been a really uplifting sight. I fricking love my new home.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:11 pm to
which puts it on par with the flu.

it's the end of the world as we know it
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:30 pm to
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which puts it on par with the flu.

I’ve been thinking this a lot now.
But i feel like this is also a big insurance issue too.
There’s no Corona Virus shot yet. But there’s a flu shot.
Will admit though this whole situation could help me big time career wise. Especially if I keep it up and don’t take any days off. Being young with no kids is paying off!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130171 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:59 pm to
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I really hate life & making decisions right now.



Feel sorry for you.

quote:

NoMansLand


Username does check out though
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38168 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:12 pm to
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which puts it on par with the flu.


Thats 9x worse than the flu.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:26 pm to
Worldwide: 41,340 new cases 1,868 deaths (32,453 & 1,628 yesterday)

Italy: 4,789 new cases 601 deaths (5,560 & 651 yesterday)


US: 10,155 new cases 139 deaths (9,359 & 111 yesterday) *seemed to have changed their numbers from yesterday

Good news is that’s Italy’s second day in a row of a decrease
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38168 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:20 pm to
So whats 2 days in a row of 100+ in America? Not a good trend.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:54 pm to
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So whats 2 days in a row of 100+ in America? Not a good trend.


Not good but expected.

I’m sure I’ll get jumped on for saying it’s expected even though this thread never would’ve been made if the peak was 80 a day.
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1430 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:42 pm to
Kyle, how about various countries' fatalities per million at the same relative times (days past first case or first death or whatever is easiest). I think that statistic would show a lot about relative effects of health care and/or genetic predisposition.

IMO, although everybody is doing it, using confirmed cases in the denominator can be very misleading when one country is testing everybody and another is only testing people when they become ill and are high-risk.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:06 am to
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Kyle, how about various countries' fatalities per million at the same relative times (days past first case or first death or whatever is easiest).


Showing by day is just going to show a gradual increase until you get to the most recent day... not sure it will really show anything except for how rapidly the death toll rises. Take Italy for example...

Italian Total Fatalities per 1 Million People by Day, starting after the 100th fatality:

Day 1: 1.77
Day 2: 2.45
Day 3: 3.26
Day 4: 3.85
Day 5: 6.05
Day 6: 7.66
Day 7: 10.44
Day 8: 13.68
Day 9: 16.80
Day 10: 20.94
Day 11: 23.83
Day 12: 29.92
Day 13: 35.69
Day 14: 41.40
Day 15: 49.25
Day 16: 56.32
Day 17: 66.69
Day 18: 79.90
Day 19: 90.57
Day 20: 100.51
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 10:07 am
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