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re: Sensible arguments for gun control

Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:18 pm to
Yah you're back to verbally masterbating. Thanks for that thoughtful response that addressed nothing I said.

You are the king of reasoned debate.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:18 pm to
Talk to anyone in law enforcement. They'll confirm that criminals prey on the weakest targets. Saying that is nonsense undermines any point you try to make concerning crime.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:19 pm to
You said nothing, you got nothing in response. Your logic is to compare gun ownership to firecracker bannings.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:19 pm to
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They'll confirm that criminals prey on the weakest targets.



Well, yeah. That's just natural instinct though.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:20 pm to
Yes it is. And you can't see the obvious comparison.
cause yo so smart
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:20 pm to
Natural, and the easiest path to get what they want.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:22 pm to
You digress. As expected, it's time for personal attacks, and continued lack of logical reasons for gun control excuses.

but firecrackers banned..

but nukes..

but mass killings...

Emotion. That's what you have for your arguments. And when you can't make headway, that emotion turns into insults.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:22 pm to
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So do you pack a parachute when you fly on an airplane? Will you not ride in cars that don't have airbags? Do you have someone taste your food at restaurants for you? I'm interested to know in what other facets of your life do you go to such extremes to protect yourself from imminent harm. Surely you wear a helmet while biking? And life vests at all times when on the water? You no doubt cab it home if you've had even a drop of alcohol...?


Your odds of being in a plane crash in your life are something like one in seven million. Your odds of being intentionally poisoned are almost nonexistent. Your odds of personally witnessing a home break in? 1/4. Your odds of being mugged are higher than that in some areas.

Most of the other things you listed are things many people actually do, so your point is moot.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:23 pm to
I have a modest proposal: Legalize fat people hunting.

Do it just like deer season. High license fees would bring in tax revenue and aid our overburdened healthcare system.

Plus, people could get their need to kill out.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:23 pm to
I'd also like to point out that M80's were never considered a protected right (at least to my knowledge)
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:24 pm to
Also all of those listed are things you can either choose, or not choose as we currently do with gun ownership.

Gun control laws, depending on the severity/degree of the specific law, would likely limit choices.
Posted by WheelRoute
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:25 pm to
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If the Gov't is sending in troops against citizens, then paychecks are probably the last thing on anyones mind. If you want to throw out a scenario, be open to all sides of it.


It's a ridiculous hypo to begin w/. The point remains, if your rationale for not restricting the ownership of firearms in any way is that it provides a deterrent against gov't overreach, then that same rationale would theoretically extend to the ownership of all kinds of weapons. Because for a country that spends 3/4's of a trillion annually on the military, a citizenry armed w/ only pistols and rifles isn't capable of providing a balanced deterrent. More and greater weapons are needed.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:27 pm to
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As expected, it's time for personal attacks, and continued lack of logical reasons for gun control excuses.
You are the one that said the other side can't make reasoned arguments.

There are actually good arguments that can be made both ways, and none of them are in this thread
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I'd also like to point out that M80's were never considered a protected right (at least to my knowledge)
Neither are ar15s
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to
why don't you present one or two then, on whichever side you choose.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:29 pm to
firearms

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the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 12:31 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:31 pm to
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firearms
wut?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:31 pm to
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As expected, it's time for personal attacks


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Emotion. That's what you have for your arguments. And when you can't make headway, that emotion turns into insults.


You literally did this exact thing just a few pages ago.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:32 pm to
firearms
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:32 pm to
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