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re: Poll for Mississippians.

Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:10 am to
Posted by HYDRnation
Member since Nov 2014
63 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:10 am to
Yes. The last time it was put to the popular vote, I voted to change it and would again. When over one third of your population is offended or hurt by it, it needs to go. I don't care if people think a flag shouldn't be offensive. The fact is - IT IS.

How can Mississippi say that we have progressed in civil rights and then fly that flag? It goes farther than being embarrassing. It is about compassion. It is about healing. It is about humanity.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:37 am to
quote:

the fact that some people use it to represent racism is enough to warrant it not flying officially over anything


Seriously? By this logic, nothing should be flown officially because every flag and symbol has been used by at least someone to represent racism and/or hatred.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Seriously? By this logic, nothing should be flown officially because every flag and symbol has been used by at least someone to represent racism and/or hatred.







I didn't get my point across very well and I've got to much to do this morning to expand on it but that's not exactly what I ment
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30174 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:33 am to
quote:

and probably would have been if the "new" flag years back hadn't been hideously ugly


The original proposed flag wasn't that bad.



But when they do eventually change the flag I hope they come up with something better.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:35 am to


Mississippi pole.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:08 am to
quote:

The swastika predates the Nazi party. It was originally a religious symbol. I don't see many people rocking that anymore though.



You really should get out more then. The swastika is still revered as a sacred symbol in two of the worlds major religions. While shunned in the west due to it's connotations to the Nazi era it is probably the most prevelant symbol displayed in Hindu and Budist society. Or in another words the majority of the worlds population.

quote:


The auspicious symbol of the swastika is very commonly used in Hindu art, architecture and decoration. It can be seen on temples, houses, doorways, clothing, cars, and even cakes. It is usually a major part of the decoration for festivals and special ceremonies like weddings
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:28 am to


For people who aren't ignorant, that is still racist.

So basically it will be fine.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30174 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:37 am to
How is that flag racist?
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:12 am to


This is the original "Stars and Bars".



New proposed Mississippi Flag.



This is the part of the Mississippi Flag that is the center of the controversy, yet:

quote:

Never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags


So going from a flag that had never officially represented the CSA, to one that was the official flag should spark even more controversy than the current one. However, because most people have no idea what the actual CSA flag looked like they will never know the difference.
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11974 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:41 am to
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You really should get out more then.


Where are you going where you see the swastika in regularity?
I try not to frequent the local white supremacist meetings, so help me out here.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30232 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:56 am to
How much of the support for the battle flag do y'all think comes not from a sense of hate or racism, but a statement of "Eff you! Don't tell me what to do!" at what they perceive as busybodies and do-gooders?
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46495 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:57 am to
Changing the flag is pointless because it changes nothing for really anyone here and I don't care whether it changes or doesn't. It isn't going to make this state skinnier, smarter, or safer for children. It's not going to change people's perception of Mississippi or Mississippians. If it makes a few self-aggrandizing people pat themselves on the back then they can knock themselves out changing it. The core issuses facing this state are going to be the same as they've been our entire lives.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:08 pm to
only white guilt cuckold liberal pussies want to change a flag.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:09 pm to
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It's not going to change people's perception of Mississippi or Mississippians.


I'd act wager that it would, tbh.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:12 pm to
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I'd act wager that it would, tbh.


Really?

Changing the State flag, would change the national image of Mississippi? I just don't think you're being honest with yourself, tbh.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46495 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:20 pm to
It wouldn't and even if Mississippi had some unforeseen boom in natural resources and a huge population surge it would still be considered stupid, racist, and fat. Our state government is inept at best and willfully stupid at worst so even the removal of a flag would be bungled.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Where are you going where you see the swastika in regularity?


Several trips a year to India, unfortunately a dash to China every now and then. Was in Lagos, Nigeria a few weeks ago of all places and an advertiser was using a strangely similar icon to a swastika as the backdrop in an ad. Have seen it used several times in the middle east although it was most likely done purposefully to irritate as the arabs seem to have a strange Hitler fixation, likely due to a shared hatred of Hebrews.

Is that enough help for you? If not try google.





Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68574 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Yes. The last time it was put to the popular vote, I voted to change it and would again. When over one third of your population is offended or hurt by it, it needs to go.

So the other 2/3 votes don't matter then because there were some people that were offended? Why let the minority vote control what the majority vote wants?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68574 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:26 pm to
I don't think it would. If we changed it all that would happen is people would laugh at Mississippi for only just now changing it. Not applaud it.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I don't think it would. If we changed it all that would happen is people would laugh at Mississippi for only just now changing it. Not applaud it.


That and then they would move on to the next "hatefull" thing. I could not give two shits about the flag. My ancestors where getting treated just as brutally by the brits on our home island around the time of the civil war. Yet because I am white I am supposed to feel some burden for something that happened almost 200 years ago?

Both sides have their own groups of shitheads, ignorant racist renecks and ignorant race baiting blacks are equally despicable to me. I feel no pitty for either bunch.

Keep the flag change the flag, it will make no difference in the lives of any man.
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