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re: Mizzou should be ashamed.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:59 pm to 337Tiger19
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:59 pm to 337Tiger19
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That would be amplified especially if that person is white or uses the the -er version. Take what you want from it. Just trying to help you see both sides.
I always love the "can't see the other side" argument about race, it's like "try everything once" argument, I think you should try diving off a cliff onto a pier of jagged rocks, I mean how will you know you don't like it unless you try it, right?
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:59 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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What's shameful about the entire SEC is the institutional racism of the Bag Man culture that's very real. That's whats shameful. Whats shameful is white boosters utilizing the socioeconomic status of the families of black athletes to their school's advantage under the table to such a large degree that its just accepted as common practice. What's shameful is white fans and alums of SEC schools handing out cash here and there to black athletes and patting themselves on the back as if they just did something good when all it does is exert control over a black family because now they are depending on some white booster for their livelihood, and its all secret and unregulated so the black family can't control or complain they just have to shut up and take their scraps and say thank you my son will be sure to play hard and will sure as hell NEVER boycott, no sir. What's shameful are the hidden realities of this conference. Truth bombs hurt. But if you guys are gonna attack a fellow SEC school for being shameful, you deserve this one dropped on you.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:06 pm to BamaNixon
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What's sad about it? A group of people were unhappy with the president of the college, peacefully protested, and got what they wanted. The system works.
The system at work in this case is a system which has forfeited the power of individual rights in favor of one which operates by collective rule, using money and threats as its means to power. That's not liberty. It's a dictatorship of cultural Marxism.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:35 pm to Glorious
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What I hate about this is that any opposition of this is simply bigotry and is not a legit argument. The liberal strategy of turning every issue into good/evil instead of actual debate is brilliant
Couldn't agree more.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:44 pm to 337Tiger19
I understand, but I'm just not buying it. You can't take power from a word, and then pick and choose when it's offensive and when it's not, or if it's used as slang or literal. Either it's an offensive word, or not. And it's not like the word is just used on the streets, it's used in pop culture to a sickening degree. I find the word deplorable. Take some ownership in doing something about it.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:01 pm to BugaPainTrain7
Is it fair to say that the mob at mizzou is pissed because Tim Wolfe dindu nuffin?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:13 pm to slackster
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Why aren't they speaking up for themselves if that is the case? Why do you need to tell them that they should be offended? Are you implying they do not have the mental capacity to recognize this blatant racism that is right in front of them?
LMFAO.
Pleeeease.
It's called hush money.
If a poor person is depending on an under the table revenue stream *for their livelihood* then they are not at liberty to speak about it. If a single black mom is being able to raise her other children in her family of four *because* of Bag Man money from some white SEC school's booster, then she and her son the player best not raise a fuss about it publicly if her kids want to eat.
That is institutional racism.
If SEC Bag Men white boosters want to prove to me that the Bag Man system is not inherently racist, they are welcome to start handing out bags of cash randomly to black families whose sons can't play football and who their favorite team is not actively recruiting. Show me evidence of that and I'll agree with you. But until then you are living in a paternalistic Old South fantasy world.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:17 pm to PhilipMarlowe
I would say that this is a possibility
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:20 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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If a poor person is depending on an under the table revenue stream *for the livelihood* they are not at liberty to speak about it. If a single black mom is being able to raise her other children in her family of four *because* of Bag Man money from some white SEC school's booster, then she and her son the player best not raise a fuss about it publicly if her son wants to eat.
I'm genuinely confused. You're saying this is a bad thing for the woman? She can't provide for her family in any other way besides this under the table money, yet I'm supposed to believe this is wrong?
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If SEC Bag Men white boosters want to prove to me that the Bag Man system is not inherently racist, they are welcome to start handing out bags of cash randomly to black families whose sons can't play football and who their favorite team is not actively recruiting. Show me evidence of that and I'll agree with you. But until then you are living in a paternalistic Old South fantasy world.
This is absurd. Paying players under the table is racist because they can play football?
These boosters care about football at their school, and they want their school to be as competitive as possible, but you're telling me it is racist for them to pay players under the table?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:22 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
people like you and your thought process is why there will always be problems like this. No accountability and no one should think for themselves,correct?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:08 pm to I-59 Tiger
Mizzou might as well take a bullet to the head as a university, you see you give these frickers an inch and they want the whole thing.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:20 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Interesting. I never took you for being such a liberal bed-wetter.Sounds like you have drunk the "white privilege,black man can do no wrong Kool-Aid."
I don't think I've argued any such thing. I have much more of a Libertarian tendency, but that would be hard to fit into the ONLY LIBRELS AGREE WITH DEM DUMMIES meme that's going on here. To me, this is a group of people that had a problem with their leadership and protested in a peaceful way. They leveraged their political capital in order to create change. I don't have any problem with that. Whether or not some very clueless, almost certainly racist, individuals on this board agree or not is really beside the point.
People who want to control a situation that they have no part in are much more "liberal" than "conservative" in terms of governance. In my opinion, many of the people on this board are angry because this type of political capital has typically been used by those with a great deal of money (read: white donors) rather than by people with valuable services that make money for the university (the football players). It's scary for white people to see that minorities can organize and use their resources to affect change. And, of course, that's an element of racism - being fine with entrenched white interests using their resources to affect change but not being ok with black people doing the same.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:23 pm to BamaNixon
If their cause was worthy of support, I'd support them. However, asking a system President to address idiot racists or quit is not supportable in my mind. How can he be expected to address every idiot on a campus?
As for the football players, I feel that if they wanted to boycott football they should have been prepared to give up the benefits that come with playing football at Mizzou. Maybe they were but I suspect few of them thought about that.
Also, had they been in contention, I'm guessing this wouldn't have been something they'd have stuck their necks out about.
As for the football players, I feel that if they wanted to boycott football they should have been prepared to give up the benefits that come with playing football at Mizzou. Maybe they were but I suspect few of them thought about that.
Also, had they been in contention, I'm guessing this wouldn't have been something they'd have stuck their necks out about.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:31 pm to roadGator
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If their cause was worthy of support, I'd support them. However, asking a system President to address idiot racists or quit is not supportable in my mind. How can he be expected to address every idiot on a campus?
They didn't ask you to join in their protests, and you have every right not to agree with their underlying concerns. However, the people that protested did believe that the president should have addressed these concerns in a more holistic way. They were firm enough in their positions that they took risks in order to achieve the changes in leadership they desired. Self-determination is a great thing, but it's scary to certain people who don't like for political capital to be in the "wrong" hands.
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As for the football players, I feel that if they wanted to boycott football they should have been prepared to give up the benefits that come with playing football at Mizzou.
As far as I know, they were prepared for this very thing. It appears that the real power at Mizzou wasn't prepared to give up the benefits that come with having football players. If the players at Mizzou have that sort of power, who am I to blame them for using it? After all, other entrenched powers have never, ever had any qualms about using their money to affect change.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:33 pm to BugaPainTrain7
I'm ashamed of my alma mater for lacking the balls to step up to this insidious overthrow attempt by those that don't love the University, its alumni, or Columbia. I shall fly my Mizzou flag at half staff tomorrow.
And for all you SWJ assholes, I hope you choke on a bagful of pegging dildos.
And for all you SWJ assholes, I hope you choke on a bagful of pegging dildos.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:38 pm to trader_tiger83
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And for all you SWJ assholes, I hope you choke on a bagful of pegging dildos.
Maybe if you think that everyone who disagrees with you is an a-hole, the real a-hole in the situation is you.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the people who "overthrew" the university believed, sincerely, that the leadership wasn't serving the best interests of Mizzou. Real ignorance is assuming that your position is based on TRUTH and that everyone else is somehow evil or stupid.
But, I mean, if you're willing to part with your bag of pegging dildos, there are probably some SJWs willing to choke on them for your viewing pleasure. Not my thing, but you do you, brother.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:42 pm to BugaPainTrain7
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I am white
Gee, never would've guessed.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:47 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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If SEC Bag Men white boosters want to prove to me that the Bag Man system is not inherently racist, they are welcome to start handing out bags of cash randomly to black families whose sons can't play football and who their favorite team is not actively recruiting. Show me evidence of that and I'll agree with you. But until then you are living in a paternalistic Old South fantasy world.
One of the most ridiculous things I've read today.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:11 pm to BamaNixon
Have you watched the videos?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:14 pm to roadGator
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Have you watched the videos?
Define "the videos."
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