re: Mississippi Senate Passes a Bill that Makes Us Look Even Worse

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You chose to be. Just as I chose to not be, even though from the time I was born until I was a teenager I attended church every Sunday and every Wednesday and was even baptized.

People don't choose to be a certain race, gender, or sexuality. Those are things that cannot be changed.

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Belief is not something you choose. You either believe something or you don't, but you can't turn it on and off. Can you choose to believe something as true that you know is false? Of course not. Someone can choose to go to church or say a prayer or go through the motions, but that isn't what makes someone a Christian. Faith and belief is what makes someone a Christian, and I can no more choose to not believe what I believe than you can choose to believe it by just trying really hard.

Sexuality can and does change all the time. Maybe not as drastically as going from a man to a woman or vice versa, but I think it does. It can be changing your sexual tastes and preferences from blondes to brunettes; from only young males/females to more mature fancies; or even the kinds of sexual fantasies that a person has can change over time. In other words, what turns a person on can and does change over time. But you're right in that a black person can't change his skin color (or can he?) or a man can't become a woman (even though I'm supposed to believe they can?) I get your point, but sexuality isn't exactly in the same boat as race and gender, though a lot of people want to believe it. But that isn't to say people willfully choose to change their sexual preferences; it just kind of happens through exposure, maturity (or immaturity), or other things.

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According to your Bible, all sins are equal. If, indeed, homosexuality is a sin, it is no worse sin than drunkenness, premarital sex, and coveting your neighbors ox or arse.

I've never seen Christians try to keep those who live with partners that they aren't married to or are seen at the local bar every night out of their establishments though.

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I do believe that some sins are greater or worse than others, but you're right in that, according to the Bible, homosexuality is just one sin among many. This particular conversation isn't about adultery or theft, though. If you'd like me to condemn those things, I'll gladly do it. I don't pick and choose which sins I want to accept or reject. In fact, I know that many Christians make a big deal about homosexuality and then go home to their live-in lover for some passionate, unmarried sex. It's very hypocritical. I'm a sinner, but I recognize that I do sin (I don't try to justify my actions as being "OK" before God), and when I sin, I repent and ask for God's forgiveness.

I agree that a lot of Christians don't make an effort to toss out people "living in sin" in other ways from their establishments, but maybe they would if people walked around with scarlet A's or turquoise F's. Personally, I would not discriminate against homosexuals or any other sinners. However, I might take the opportunity to preach the Gospel to them while I made their cake or took their money for some service I was providing. Or maybe not, since it is within the context of business. Perhaps I'd try to befriend a customer and then develop a more personal relationship that is more natural to discuss such things.

But your point is accurate: many Christians make a big deal about homosexuality while ignoring the other sins. I'm not that way, though. I think part of the problem is that homosexuality has become the "it" thing these days, and it is being pushed for acceptance all over the place, which creates a disproportionate amount of response compared to other sins that are already accepted as commonplace.

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the gays wont go for it even though it accomplishes their objectives.

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No, it doesn't.

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a civil union giving them everything but the title of marriage accomplishes every single thing they want accept the title. id say thats a pretty big win for them

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Every gay person that I know, and I live in Midtown ATL so I know a lot, would be perfectly happy with state recognized civil unions. Most of the far right neocons would never go for that either though.

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Most of the far right neocons would never go for that either though.

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bullshite, you're talking out of your dumb cat arse again

Whey they are single they will be called butt pirates. Once finding a lifetime partner, then they'll be butt buddies. Bride = Catcher Groom = Pitcher

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bullshite, you're talking out of your dumb cat arse again

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No, I'm not. I live in the south. Even it Atlanta there are people like that.

Suck my geoduck, bitch.

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a civil union giving them everything but the title of marriage accomplishes every single thing they want except the title. id say thats a pretty big win for them

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Well yeah, but that's what many asked for in the early 90's and instead conservatives wrote and pushed for passage of DOMA. The civil union ship sailed a long time ago, even though most gays would be happy with the equal rights a civil union could bring.

ok. I haven't watched that in years.

Not all lesbians are dykes.