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re: Long term decline of CFB will not be due to SJW nonsense
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:21 am to Mithridates6
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:21 am to Mithridates6
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You'll always have the sidewalk alumni
Also what is this oxymoron?
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:29 am to wmr
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They're fading fast. GenX and Millennials just don't give a shite as much and have a much more sober picture of what CFB is about.
Millenials and Zoomers don't give a shite about Sportsball. They think Call of Duty players are "athletes". And they're more likely break windows or tear statues down than tailgate.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:33 am to CrabInMyShoeMouth
If Arkansas’s program was more successful, the Texas folks would likely be more vocal. No offense; all programs gave down times.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:34 am to The Spleen
My family has been going to the games since the mid eighties. We didn't get season tickets until 2002. It wasn't until we had enough in 2016. Bert pissed away two double digit leads in a row and caused both opponents to have their biggest comebacks in school history. It also didn't help that smart arse AD Jeff Long posted on social media as if he didn't care. So I was done, Jeff Long was fired one year later and followed closely by Bert.
I didn't like the Chad hire and felt we botched the search. I thought a bout getting season tickets but 2-10 was looming large and so I waited believing Chad wasn't going to make it.
Sam Pittman was hired and talked a bout getting season tickets again. But this covid-19 and political bullshite has turned me away once again. I'm not supporting these spoiled brats. If they have it so rough then quit and get a job. Stop the pandering and pampering.
Another thing that has hurt attendance is the concessions. It is more expensive than restaurants. Not only is it more expensive but it tastes bad. So I try to bring my food and hide them in my pockets. They have a no food policy because they can't money off of you if you bring your own food. After so many complaints, they lowered concessions by a dollar each. That still doesn't help and the beer selection is a pain in the arse.
Where I sat, the problem is that I couldn't sit with the same group. The season ticket holders would sell or give away tickets to friends or family. I have for a good part got stuck with the visitors. Me and dad had one incident with a visiting fan and certainly didn't help renewing tickets for next year.
So the losing culture, money issues, pampered athletes, covid-19, arguments with visiting fans and overpriced garbage food is just a lot of investing and getting nothing out of it.
I didn't like the Chad hire and felt we botched the search. I thought a bout getting season tickets but 2-10 was looming large and so I waited believing Chad wasn't going to make it.
Sam Pittman was hired and talked a bout getting season tickets again. But this covid-19 and political bullshite has turned me away once again. I'm not supporting these spoiled brats. If they have it so rough then quit and get a job. Stop the pandering and pampering.
Another thing that has hurt attendance is the concessions. It is more expensive than restaurants. Not only is it more expensive but it tastes bad. So I try to bring my food and hide them in my pockets. They have a no food policy because they can't money off of you if you bring your own food. After so many complaints, they lowered concessions by a dollar each. That still doesn't help and the beer selection is a pain in the arse.
Where I sat, the problem is that I couldn't sit with the same group. The season ticket holders would sell or give away tickets to friends or family. I have for a good part got stuck with the visitors. Me and dad had one incident with a visiting fan and certainly didn't help renewing tickets for next year.
So the losing culture, money issues, pampered athletes, covid-19, arguments with visiting fans and overpriced garbage food is just a lot of investing and getting nothing out of it.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:02 am to Mithridates6
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- post-1965 immigrants will be a majority soon: if anything they care about soccer, not what we call football
At least for the P5s, college football is a big part of the social experience for college kids. Their fall Saturdays revolve around tailgating and CFB. They will continue to be fans.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:11 am to bigDgator
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Also what is this oxymoron?
Fans who didn't attend said school
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:32 am to Mithridates6
Regardless of all this happening, football’s future in general probably isn’t too bright. Fewer and fewer kids are playing it because a lot of parents are wary of its dangers. It’ll probably still be around in another 50 years but I doubt it’ll be played in its current form or be nearly this popular.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:46 am to 1BamaRTR
Baseball will likely make up some grounds. College baseball opportunities is increasing becoming more popular for young kids. The same with fans as it is a lot cheaper than football games and the seating is a lot better for player interactions.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:51 am to Mithridates6
Comforts of home and TV have hurt this more than anything
Only gonna get worse unless stadiums really make it draw to be there
Only gonna get worse unless stadiums really make it draw to be there
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:05 am to Mithridates6
"Decline" is an ugly word ( when it does not appear in proximity to "Alabama" ).
Every apex is followed by a decline, all of them. Term length is relative measure, we know this. What I'm saying is: we're still very close to a long term apex, which we should recognize and enjoy.
Also, there's are different kinds of popularity. There's broad, shallow appeal and there is the mature, passed-the-test-of-time wonders that remain attractive after the initial infatuation, novelty period wares off. AKA: a classic.
Our national game of football is so damned amazing, that its infancy, formative period is still ongoing. Medieval Mob Football happened for centuries in Europe before centers of learning figured out how to adapt it into smaller, more manageable games.
Overall, Mithridates, you are correct. Some level of decline is inevitable, especially when there's been so much growth, so quickly! Rock & Roll was everything, until it wasn't. It didn't die, the pop-culture crowd just moved on to the next thing to explore, but the music is still made and people still enjoy it. Our football may shed a few fans who were really a better fit for a different game, but it ain't dying anytime soon.
Every apex is followed by a decline, all of them. Term length is relative measure, we know this. What I'm saying is: we're still very close to a long term apex, which we should recognize and enjoy.
Also, there's are different kinds of popularity. There's broad, shallow appeal and there is the mature, passed-the-test-of-time wonders that remain attractive after the initial infatuation, novelty period wares off. AKA: a classic.
Our national game of football is so damned amazing, that its infancy, formative period is still ongoing. Medieval Mob Football happened for centuries in Europe before centers of learning figured out how to adapt it into smaller, more manageable games.
Overall, Mithridates, you are correct. Some level of decline is inevitable, especially when there's been so much growth, so quickly! Rock & Roll was everything, until it wasn't. It didn't die, the pop-culture crowd just moved on to the next thing to explore, but the music is still made and people still enjoy it. Our football may shed a few fans who were really a better fit for a different game, but it ain't dying anytime soon.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:24 am to bigDgator
Yeah, you don't have a problem with it as long as it's not your child. Idiot!
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:47 am to Mithridates6
Middle america still exists. CFB is the 2nd most popular sport in the country (in terms of financial value) thanks to the tribal nature of fans bc college football has more sense of "belonging to something" even than the NFL. The average person in this county is centrist, leaning ever so slightly to the right. Just bc non-football fans are the loudest voice in June 2020, doesn't signal the death knell of the sport.
Every offseason in the summer people predict the demise of football. Obviously with this being an election year, SJW/injustice, and COVID, things are heightened from a consciousness perspective.
There are macro threats to football like you described, but long term is nearly impossible to predict. I would say social media is bigger threat than all of those issues you described. Obviously things are cyclical, and as long as middle america continues to support CFB it won't decline very much in our lifetime. There's too much money, desire, and infrastructure.
Every offseason in the summer people predict the demise of football. Obviously with this being an election year, SJW/injustice, and COVID, things are heightened from a consciousness perspective.
There are macro threats to football like you described, but long term is nearly impossible to predict. I would say social media is bigger threat than all of those issues you described. Obviously things are cyclical, and as long as middle america continues to support CFB it won't decline very much in our lifetime. There's too much money, desire, and infrastructure.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:50 pm to wmr
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Not true. It's about 50% out of state, but Texans are only about 30%.
I didn't look it up but that's I've heard about the past couple years. Maybe it was just freshman.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:54 pm to GurleyGirl
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100 years from now people will look back on the history of football and wonder why civilized men battled each other like gladiators on a football field/arena. They will think: how barbaric; why on earth would they want to hurt each other?
Meh, spectator competition like football has been going on for several thousand years in one form or another.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:47 pm to Mithridates6
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Universities don't represent their states anymore, I'd wager that in-state enrollees have been declining as a percentage of the total for most FBS universities. They'll take anyone who can pay the exorbitant tuitions. If these students graduate, they probably go back home and don't have much inclination to go back and spend a small fortune on attending an FB game.
Couldn’t this be a good thing?
Grow the school, kids get high paying jobs out of the state in major hubs (example on Wall Street or Silicon Valley)
Donate to their schools
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 5:51 pm
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