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Just finished Dexter on Netflix (spoilers) (NSFW Pg 2)
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:21 pm
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I like you guys better, deal with it.
This is your final warning that the spoilers below WILL spoil the entire series. This post pertains to the series finale.
TL;DR version: The ending was piss-poor, and Dexter becoming a lumberjack under a false identity alone did not make any sense.
Alright, so I finished the series last night. I had high hopes for the series finale wrapping things up well as I have enjoyed the series even with the obvious shift in things post-season 4. I could understand knocking off Deb. That wasn't a gamebreaker. However, sending Dexter off by riding into a hurricane, disappearing, and becoming a freaking lumberjack in Oregon was quite possibly the dumbest single piece of writing I have ever witnessed in a TV series or movie. I have seen some bad stuff, but that was flat out idiotic.
Dexter was built up as this guy (at least in the last season) who is starting to find out he might be able to have a normal-ish life. Also, he is clearly portrayed as a loving father who would do anything to be with his son. He also loves Hannah desperately and would do anything for her. He did all of that throughout that final season, and when he finally has his chance to be with them, he abandons them and flees from his problems, which is something the character would not do. To top it off, he flees to become a lumberjack in Oregon under a false identity by himself. Really? Seriously?
In summary, the ending was stupid and illogical, and those writers have no business writing for anything ever again. /rant
In other news, how is everyone today?
I like you guys better, deal with it.
This is your final warning that the spoilers below WILL spoil the entire series. This post pertains to the series finale.
TL;DR version: The ending was piss-poor, and Dexter becoming a lumberjack under a false identity alone did not make any sense.
Alright, so I finished the series last night. I had high hopes for the series finale wrapping things up well as I have enjoyed the series even with the obvious shift in things post-season 4. I could understand knocking off Deb. That wasn't a gamebreaker. However, sending Dexter off by riding into a hurricane, disappearing, and becoming a freaking lumberjack in Oregon was quite possibly the dumbest single piece of writing I have ever witnessed in a TV series or movie. I have seen some bad stuff, but that was flat out idiotic.
Dexter was built up as this guy (at least in the last season) who is starting to find out he might be able to have a normal-ish life. Also, he is clearly portrayed as a loving father who would do anything to be with his son. He also loves Hannah desperately and would do anything for her. He did all of that throughout that final season, and when he finally has his chance to be with them, he abandons them and flees from his problems, which is something the character would not do. To top it off, he flees to become a lumberjack in Oregon under a false identity by himself. Really? Seriously?
In summary, the ending was stupid and illogical, and those writers have no business writing for anything ever again. /rant
In other news, how is everyone today?
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 10:48 pm
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:26 pm to Kodar
Yep.
The only thing I could come up with that they could have been going for was that there would be no greater punishment than for him to live in self-imposed exile.
There were faaaaaar more logical and satisfying ways to wrap up that show over the last 2 seasons.
The only thing I could come up with that they could have been going for was that there would be no greater punishment than for him to live in self-imposed exile.
There were faaaaaar more logical and satisfying ways to wrap up that show over the last 2 seasons.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:26 pm to Kodar
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The ending was piss-poor
Welcome to most shows. The only ones with a decent ending recently have been Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:29 pm to AUjim
quote:Maybe, but then they wasted all that time building up this idea that maybe he isn't a true psychopath. Maybe he is capable of having a somewhat normal life with a family. Then they threw that completely out the window like it never happened.
The only thing I could come up with that they could have been going for was that there would be no greater punishment than for him to live in self-imposed exile.
quote:That was really my main gripe. I can deal with happy and sad endings if they AT LEAST make logical sense. This did not make logical sense at all with the very nature of the character.
There were faaaaaar more logical and satisfying ways to wrap up that show over the last 2 seasons.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:33 pm to Kodar
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Dexter was built up as this guy (at least in the last season) who is starting to find out he might be able to have a normal-ish life. Also, he is clearly portrayed as a loving father who would do anything to be with his son. He also loves Hannah desperately and would do anything for her. He did all of that throughout that final season, and when he finally has his chance to be with them, he abandons them and flees from his problems, which is something the character would not do. To top it off, he flees to become a lumberjack in Oregon under a false identity by himself. Really? Seriously?
He was making such progress, but then realized because of him, everyone close to him ends up dying. He made a thousand steps forward, to be somewhat normal, and then the ending events made him jump back to square one and beyond. He knew the only way those he loved would live a happy life, was if he was out of it.
I thought it made sense. Annnnd....it kept the crack open for a second series. Just maybe.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:33 pm to CatFan81
quote:I can understand that, but I usually expect some sort of logical connections so that the ending makes some sort of sense.
Welcome to most shows. The only ones with a decent ending recently have been Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:38 pm to bawbarn
quote:I.e. he threw a pity party. After the multiple occurrences throughout the series of how Dexter will not abandon his son no matter how bad the situation got, he suddenly became okay with it. The character was a good father throughout the series. Next thing we know, he leaves his son with the woman of his dreams. The opportunity he has been searching (to be with his family and to get away from all the insanity) was right freaking there, and he said nope because of a pity party. (No I am not blasting you, just ranting). Additionally, Dexter simply never ran away from his problems in the series. Why now?
He was making such progress, but then realized because of him, everyone close to him ends up dying. He made a thousand steps forward, to be somewhat normal, and then the ending events made him jump back to square one and beyond. He knew the only way those he loved would live a happy life, was if he was out of it.
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I thought it made sense.
You are one of the few I suspect, but that's okay. If you're fine with it, then that's great.
quote:This is true, but what angle would they pursue?
Annnnd....it kept the crack open for a second series. Just maybe.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:47 pm to Kodar
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I can understand that, but I usually expect some sort of logical connections so that the ending makes some sort of sense.
Just look at the end of the Sopranos.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:52 pm to Kodar
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I.e. he threw a pity party. After the multiple occurrences throughout the series of how Dexter will not abandon his son no matter how bad the situation got, he suddenly became okay with it
Maybe because he definitely knew Hannah would take care of Harrison no matter what? I don't know.
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The opportunity he has been searching (to be with his family and to get away from all the insanity) was right freaking there, and he said nope because of a pity party. (No I am not blasting you, just ranting). Additionally, Dexter simply never ran away from his problems in the series. Why now?
Dexter had issues, so you can't assume he thinks like you or I, I guess?
I don't know, I found it a fitting ending for him. He's messed up in the head. In his mind, the longer he was with Hannah and Harrison, the more likely they would end up like Deb, Harry, or Rita.
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This is true, but what angle would they pursue?
No idea, but if they do, it needs to be better than the last couple seasons. The last one was tough to get through for me.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:54 pm to Kodar
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The ending was piss-poor
Anyone who had seen the series knows this.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:09 pm to bawbarn
quote:This is a fair point
Dexter had issues, so you can't assume he thinks like you or I, I guess?
quote:While possible, things were clearly different around them. It would've been very easy to rewrite the ending to fit the idea that Dexter finds them and lives with them (even if it would've been a tad cliche). I felt like a lot of characters got unnecessarily screwed over in the end here. One of the reasons Dexter believes he is how he is instead of dead/in prison is because of Harry. He has to be that for Harrison in case any of Dexter pops up in him. Of course, that is my opinion.
In his mind, the longer he was with Hannah and Harrison, the more likely they would end up like Deb, Harry, or Rita.
quote:I didn't see the dramatic drop off in the last few seasons that others speak off, but I'm a bit more glass half full kind of guy. I did see a drop off though, so I can definitely see how folks came to that conclusion. I just might be rustled over this for a while.
No idea, but if they do, it needs to be better than the last couple seasons. The last one was tough to get through for me.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:09 pm to WPBTiger
quote:Consider it a reminder.
Anyone who had seen the series knows this.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:58 pm to Kodar
No. It made sense to me.
Dexter will never be able to fully escape his urge to kill. This forever puts his family or anyone he doesn't want to harm at risk.
Now he can live in Oregon (or wherever), and go back to killing people like he needs to do to stay level.
I also have found that a lot of people don't like many of popular series finales anymore. Specifically any ending that doesn't give the audience "closure" upsets them. How would you have ended it? He lives happily ever after with his Family in Argentina?
Typical.
Dexter will never be able to fully escape his urge to kill. This forever puts his family or anyone he doesn't want to harm at risk.
Now he can live in Oregon (or wherever), and go back to killing people like he needs to do to stay level.
I also have found that a lot of people don't like many of popular series finales anymore. Specifically any ending that doesn't give the audience "closure" upsets them. How would you have ended it? He lives happily ever after with his Family in Argentina?
Typical.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:32 pm to Kodar
I fricking loved that show. Season 5 was my personal favorite, but S4 was probably the show's high point.
Wish Sgt Doakes had stuck around longer.
Loved the evolution of Deb's character
The ending felt like we were cheated. Horribly done, and I'm usually very forgiving of TV shows I like. Felt rushed, fake, and out of character.
Wish Sgt Doakes had stuck around longer.
Loved the evolution of Deb's character
The ending felt like we were cheated. Horribly done, and I'm usually very forgiving of TV shows I like. Felt rushed, fake, and out of character.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:20 pm to nb200016
quote:This idea was already explored earlier in the series. They actually brought up the idea that the love he has for Hannah is stronger than the urge to kill in S8E11 when Dexter was talking to Saxon. The entire season 8 had built on the very idea that he could actually gain control and stop killing. The idea that he could live a fairly normal life. That isn't as much about the happy ending as it is about what kind of foundation was laid throughout that season and even in earlier seasons to some degree. I can handle happy or sad endings as long as they main consistency and character.
Dexter will never be able to fully escape his urge to kill. This forever puts his family or anyone he doesn't want to harm at risk.
Speaking of character, Dexter did not run away from any challenge in the entire series, regardless of the nature of it. He faced it bravely without hesitation. Why, at the end of the series, is this suddenly changed? Additionally, he had been a good father who sacrificed quite a bit to ensure he would always be with his son and never leave him without a father. He suddenly abandons his son to boot. I can also say the same about his love for Hannah.
The idea of Dexter not having control of his urge to kill is what they went for, but they basically contradicted a vast amount of content that had happened earlier. Throwing it out the window like that breaks logical flow and it really damaged the ending.
quote:This doesn't escape the contradictions that had already happened up to this point, but at the very least they could have shown him with someone on his table rather than living a quiet isolated life in exile.
Now he can live in Oregon (or wherever), and go back to killing people like he needs to do to stay level.
quote:Because it seems they have a habit of sucking massive donkey balls.
I also have found that a lot of people don't like many of popular series finales anymore.
quote:Then what is the point of an ending? Breaking Bad is known as one of tGOAT series, and its ending was pretty much predicated on wrapping up every loose end. Is this a bad thing?
Specifically any ending that doesn't give the audience "closure" upsets them.
quote:If it happened like that, it would have made more sense with the previous content than how they handled things in the finale.
He lives happily ever after with his Family in Argentina?
quote:Ah, so you're one of those tools.
Typical.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Wish Sgt Doakes had stuck around longer.
Damn that guy was cool. A lot of suspense.
I couldn't stick with the show after the kids and family part joined in.
No idea why, but when it gets over-kiddified in shows I rarely stick around.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:It was a fantastic show indeed.
I fricking loved that show. Season 5 was my personal favorite, but S4 was probably the show's high point.
quote:He played stupid games and won stupid prizes
Wish Sgt Doakes had stuck around longer.
quote:I can't disagree with this really. That's one of the reasons I felt the ending was off. The build up of her character and its evolution just to piss it all away. Then again, that's not what f'd up the ending for me.
Loved the evolution of Deb's character
quote:Pretty much. Majorly out of character imo.
The ending felt like we were cheated. Horribly done, and I'm usually very forgiving of TV shows I like. Felt rushed, fake, and out of character.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:40 pm to Kodar
I keep wanting to watch Dexter but ingest so much about how the ending sucks tat it turns me off.
When I watched Heroes numerous people told me not to watch the last season and I'd be much happier. Kinda wish I didn't see the last season of chuck as well.
Speaking of chuck and dexter.... Yvonne Stohovski.
When I watched Heroes numerous people told me not to watch the last season and I'd be much happier. Kinda wish I didn't see the last season of chuck as well.
Speaking of chuck and dexter.... Yvonne Stohovski.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:13 pm to Kodar
I ducking loved this show. Watched all of it in a two week span. Ending was absolute shite. The whole last episode was awful. Stealing debs body? Pssshh
Hannah McKay though. Holy shite. I'd poke holes in the condom if I ever had the chance.
Hannah McKay though. Holy shite. I'd poke holes in the condom if I ever had the chance.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:06 pm to 3nOut
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Speaking of chuck and dexter.... Yvonne Stohovski
Oh, hello
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