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re: Is hip-hop culture destroying society?
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:31 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:31 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Religion is
Posted on 10/10/18 at 6:24 pm to boogiewoogie1978
No the internet is.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 6:35 pm to The Spleen
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Funny they never say it about country music when it glorifies a lot of the same stuff.
"I shot a man in Reno,
Just to watch him die."
Johnny Cash had/has many fans. Everyone understands that this is just music, not something to be acted out. Probably the right way to approach all musical styles.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 7:20 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Being an illiterate moron is extremely popular nowadays.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 7:41 pm to boogiewoogie1978
It’s certainly one of the contributing factors.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 5:19 am to boogiewoogie1978
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this behavior is being mimicked everywher
I don’t see this at all in my everyday life
Posted on 10/11/18 at 5:24 am to shamrock
I'll take "casual racism for $500," Alex.
This is a chicken or the egg question. People who have stable home lives, comfortable financial situations, and decent educations aren't going to get "ruined" by hip hop. Pop culture is a mirror to society, and hip hop is no different.
This is a chicken or the egg question. People who have stable home lives, comfortable financial situations, and decent educations aren't going to get "ruined" by hip hop. Pop culture is a mirror to society, and hip hop is no different.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:46 am to boogiewoogie1978
Aye don't you know I got
key by the three when I chirp shawty chirp back
Louis nap sack
where I hold'n all tha work at
key by the three when I chirp shawty chirp back
Louis nap sack
where I hold'n all tha work at
Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:59 am to GatorsGators
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I'll take "casual racism for $500," Alex.
But as was said earlier, people used to say the same thing about rock music which at the time were mostly white artist. Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elvis all had the same comments made about them.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 8:25 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Is hip-hop culture destroying society?
Bad parenting and public schools.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 8:37 am to Weagle25
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But as was said earlier, people used to say the same thing about rock music which at the time were mostly white artist. Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elvis all had the same comments made about them.
It's been said that rock n roll was born out of white boys trying to sound like the black soul and blues singers, especially Chuck Berry. Some of Elvis's work was a clear rip off of Chuck Berry. White parents wouldn't let their kids listen to Chuck Berry, and some even were put off by Elvis. There's the popular incident where Elvis was on The Ed Sullivan Show and they wouldn't show his hips moving while singing.
I think today, there is some racism in the sentiment in the original question. Maybe not necessarily from the OP. I think a lot of is just unfamiliarity. The aggressive beats and off color lyrics of hip-hop is unfamiliar to a white suburban or rural individual. They are just as turned off by most heavy metal and alternative rock music.
Sorry, I got to rambling. I actually took a class on this subject in college. It was in the sociology department. One of the most interesting classes I ever took.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 8:47 am to The Spleen
Chuck Berry gets his due all the time. Everybody copies somebody. Elvis also gets punished for copying Howlin Wolfe. I'm sure Howlin Wolfe copied Robert Johnson. Hank Williams copied Jimmie Rogers.
To the poster who said country exemplifies the same behavior, it's two fold in my mind. The country that is popular today sucks and most true country fans don't consider Kane Brown, FL GA line, and Blake Shelton country. More of a pop- Billboard influenced genre of some watered down, mixed breed rock + r & b + rap + pop with a little do bro to start the song off with.
But even the older country stuff had subtle themes, and i'm not denying that. Never heard anybody say George Jones or Keith Whitley is destroying society.
To the poster who said country exemplifies the same behavior, it's two fold in my mind. The country that is popular today sucks and most true country fans don't consider Kane Brown, FL GA line, and Blake Shelton country. More of a pop- Billboard influenced genre of some watered down, mixed breed rock + r & b + rap + pop with a little do bro to start the song off with.
But even the older country stuff had subtle themes, and i'm not denying that. Never heard anybody say George Jones or Keith Whitley is destroying society.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:01 am to sodcutterjones
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Chuck Berry gets his due all the time. Everybody copies somebody. Elvis also gets punished for copying Howlin Wolfe. I'm sure Howlin Wolfe copied Robert Johnson. Hank Williams copied Jimmie Rogers.
Sure, and I guess I should have expounded my point further. Berry wasn't as popular as he should have been at the time because radio stations targeting white listeners wouldn't play his music, and white parents wouldn't let their kids listen to him. Record producers saw the void, and filled it with Elvis. That's not to imply Elvis wasn't talented, as he had a phenomenal voice. But he was decidedly more country early in his career.
And even the lifestyle Elvis lived could be described as excessive, and not that different than some of today's hip hop stars. Drinking, drugs, exotic cars, lavish house, etc. But he gets a pass for it, and his house is a damn tourist destination.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:03 am to sodcutterjones
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Never heard anybody say George Jones or Keith Whitley is destroying society.
They also never wrote or uttered lyrics such as:
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And I snap and I grab a stupid bitch by her throat
Then I smack that broad silly yeah I crack frickin' hoess
Yeah I know "What a tough guy he hits little chicks"
Damn straight, she talkin' shite, I punch that bitch in her lip
See man, woman or child, ain't nobody disrespecting me
Grab a spoon, give that bitch a homemade hystirectomy
And whoever said “casual racism” above: these lyrics are from a white rapper.
I also don’t believe any 1960’s rock musicians wrote lyrics like this, and a lot of hip-hop artists don’t either. But it is absolutely more prevelant in hip-hop.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:24 am to The Spleen
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Sure, and I guess I should have expounded my point further. Berry wasn't as popular as he should have been at the time because radio stations targeting white listeners wouldn't play his music, and white parents wouldn't let their kids listen to him. Record producers saw the void, and filled it with Elvis. That's not to imply Elvis wasn't talented, as he had a phenomenal voice. But he was decidedly more country early in his career. And even the lifestyle Elvis lived could be described as excessive, and not that different than some of today's hip hop stars. Drinking, drugs, exotic cars, lavish house, etc. But he gets a pass for it, and his house is a damn tourist destination
All true. But Elvis was a one in a lifetime phenomenon- not only could he sing, he had the looks; he had the dance moves to go with it. Looks, charm, voice, persona, military service WHILE he was popular- he was the total package. It's hard for anybody- Berry, Jerry Lee, etc to compete with Elvis as the high bar.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 10:40 am to DownSouthJukin
quote:Sure, but I don't think there's any confusion as to what race comes to mind when one mentions "hip-hop culture."
And whoever said “casual racism” above: these lyrics are from a white rapper.
I also don’t believe any 1960’s rock musicians wrote lyrics like this, and a lot of hip-hop artists don’t either. But it is absolutely more prevelant in hip-hop.
And Q Strange is an awful example of "hip hop culture." He's fringe. You'll find similar lyrics in death metal and rock-ish horrorcore. Most people who listen to and like hip-hop would probably be disgusted by him, and for good reason, of course.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 11:03 am to GatorsGators
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Sure, but I don't think there's any confusion as to what race comes to mind when one mentions "hip-hop culture."
Tell us, please. Eminem comes to mind for me.
Set foot in any Wal-Mart and you'll notice that hip-hop culture is not confined to one group of people.
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And Q Strange is an awful example of "hip hop culture." He's fringe.
OK-here's Soulja Boy, who seems to be more mainstream:
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Man what happen man?
Man I don't know this gurl still talkin' crazy to me man actin actin like she run me or sumthin'
What dog man you know what you need to do man
What?
Slap dat hoe man, pimp slap her arse man you get yo respect dog
Yo Feel Me Aight
Aight Aight
Do dat dog walk over there and pimp slap her
That's what I'm talking about
Pimp slap dat hoe, WHOOPISH
Pimp slap dat hoe, WHOOPISH
Pimp slap dat hoe, WHOOPISH
And speaking of Eminem, here are some wonderful words of art from him:
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I’m the illest rapper to hold a cordless, patrolling corners
Looking for hookers to punch in the mouth with a roll of quarters
Met a retarded kid named Greg, with a wooden leg
Snatched it off and beat him over the fricking head with the peg
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Grabbed that bitch by her hair, drug her across the ground
And took her up to the highest diving board
And tossed her down
Sorry coach, it's too late to tell me stop
While I drop this bitch face down and watch her belly flop
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Bitch getter, hid in the bush like Margot Kidder
Jumped out, killed the bitch and did her
Used to let the babysitter suck my dick when I was littler
Smoke a blunt while I'm titty-fricking Bette Midler
He's just an American treasure.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 1:54 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Eminem comes to mind for me.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:02 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Bitch getter, hid in the bush like Margot Kidder Jumped out, killed the bitch and did her Used to let the babysitter suck my dick when I was littler Smoke a blunt while I'm titty-fricking Bette Midler
Posted on 10/11/18 at 3:00 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I watched the the Tupac movie last night. Dude looked just like him and he said frick a lot.
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