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re: Is anyone here really against homosexuality?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:09 am to KSGamecock
Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:09 am to KSGamecock
buildthatwall
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:30 am to CNB
Let's start with Blythewood.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:40 am to KSGamecock
And make Lugoff pay for it!
Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:52 am to CNB
Now that's what I voted for.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:03 pm to CNB
When is that freaking wall going to get started? There are new taco places opening every day it seems. 
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:13 pm to cardboardboxer
I don't dislike homosexuals. I dislike arse frickers. Butt if you are an arse fricker and I've offended you please downvote me, respond to this post and I will apologize.
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:16 pm to BowlJackson
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I grew up in one.
Well, I've only recently been attending a Southern Baptist church, and it, like most other churches I have every attended preaches "love the sinner, hate the sin".
I supposed some fire and brimstone preachers would stand in the pulpit and talk about the fires of hell for homosexuals, but in every church I have been in, the message is to love the person, encourage, try to help them, but you don't have to accept the sin.
That's how I am anyway. I think churches have softened quite a bit in the message in an interest to have a chance to help those caught in the homosexual lifestyle.
But maybe it's only the churches I've attended.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:04 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Well, I've only recently been attending a Southern Baptist church, and it, like most other churches I have every attended preaches "love the sinner, hate the sin".
Yeah they absolutely preach that, but I always found that preaching and practice were a little different. Love the sinner except for the gays and the addicts seemed more truthful to me.
Lots of talk of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Once when it came out that a lot of our youth group was partying and drinking on the weekend, our youth pastor spent a whole Wednesday night (even skipped over the praise band lol) to preach about how you should never drink no matter what, no even a sip. He literally said that it didn't matter that Jesus drank wine in the Bible because back the way they made wine it was less alcoholic (apparently the laws of science were suspended when Jesus walked the earth and,fermentation wasn't a thing).
So that's my view of Southern Baptists, very backwards and stuck behind the times. Seems to be a pretty common viewpoint about them too. I guess its possible they've progressed in the 10 years since I've been in one, but judging from the people I know who still go to them, I doubt it.
But every church is different, so it's possible you just found one with a good preacher. The times I do wake up early enough for church, I go to a very welcoming non-denominational church that was started by a preacher who actually got his start working with college kids in the southern Baptist church I grew up in, so I guess its possible
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:38 pm to cardboardboxer
I'm indifferent to homosexuality and was even when I was a Christian. I just don't care about two dudes or two chicks being together.
To me, a straight person being upset about someone else being gay is like someone on a diet upset that their friend ate an ice cream sundae.
To me, a straight person being upset about someone else being gay is like someone on a diet upset that their friend ate an ice cream sundae.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:43 pm to BowlJackson
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He literally said that it didn't matter that Jesus drank wine in the Bible because back the way they made wine it was less alcoholic (apparently the laws of science were suspended when Jesus walked the earth and,fermentation wasn't a thing).
I listened to a hellfire and brimstone sermon on this subject once while on the road. I think I was driving through North MS at the time and it was Good Friday.
The explanation was that when "wine" was used in good contexts in the Bible, they were talking about grape juice. Buy when "wine" was used in bad contexts, they were talking about alcoholic wine. Even though the words were the same.
Makes sense.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:03 pm to bamaboy87
Two things bamaboy:
1. Which gender are you most attracted to or is it equal?
2. I know what the bible says but even as a Christian I am smart enough to know that being gay isn't a choice. I have been around enough gay and bi men to know they were wired that way from birth. I have a really close friend dying of aids right now and he lived a miserable and lonely life. I feel sorry for most gay men. Lots of them are lonely people and only have a couple of female friends .. Maybe it isn't like that elsewhere but it seems to be that way here in Alabama.
1. Which gender are you most attracted to or is it equal?
2. I know what the bible says but even as a Christian I am smart enough to know that being gay isn't a choice. I have been around enough gay and bi men to know they were wired that way from birth. I have a really close friend dying of aids right now and he lived a miserable and lonely life. I feel sorry for most gay men. Lots of them are lonely people and only have a couple of female friends .. Maybe it isn't like that elsewhere but it seems to be that way here in Alabama.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:42 pm to hogNsinceReagan
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There isn't a better base structure then the church to guide society as a whole to just live our lives and try to love our neighbors.
From someone who attends church, this is a load of horseshite.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:05 pm to BowlJackson
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But every church is different, so it's possible you just found one with a good preacher. The times I do wake up early enough for church, I go to a very welcoming non-denominational church that was started by a preacher who actually got his start working with college kids in the southern Baptist church I grew up in, so I guess its possible
To be clear, I'm a former preacher/youth minister myself. I never considered someone who was homosexual someone to run from, but to befriend and earn their trust and encourage. I very much still feel that way today.
I don't intrude by forcing my beliefs on my friends who participate in the gay lifestyle, but they know I'm against it, but am always open to discuss and understand why they chose it. For the vast majority, it's an acceptance thing, likely from the perception mentioned in this thread of how the church views that lifestyle.
I do think "most" churches are getting a bad rap from a desire to make it seem like they hate people who are homosexual. I might be out of touch, but I don't know of any churches that are not welcoming to anyone who wants to attend.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:13 pm to cardboardboxer
I stand by Dave Chappelle's Black Bush take on male homosexuality, "That shite is gross".
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:26 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I never considered someone who was homosexual someone to run from, but to befriend and earn their trust and encourage.
Encourage them to do what exactly, "stop" being gay?
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I don't intrude by forcing my beliefs on my friends who participate in the gay lifestyle, but they know I'm against it, but am always open to discuss and understand why they chose it
those people are saints for choosing to engage in conversation with you if you honestly believe that. You actually ask homosexuals to their face Why they "chose" to be gay? Wow...
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I might be out of touch
That might be an understatement tbh
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:46 pm to BowlJackson
Why someone chose to start sucking dick is probably an entertaining or informative story sometimes.
Haven't you ever seen House of Cards?
Haven't you ever seen House of Cards?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:29 pm to BowlJackson
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those people are saints for choosing to engage in conversation with you if you honestly believe that.
You actually ask homosexuals to their face Why they "chose" to be gay? Wow...
I'll go so far as to say these "churches" and "God fearing Christians" are no different from the pharisees that persecuted Christ...they've taken it upon themselves to decipher the Old Testament when Jesus himself declared the Old Testament, the 10 Commandments and everything else dead and void. Quoting old testament is not Christianity. The old testament is nothing more than a history story. Christ made that null and void in John 13:33-35. The vast majority of the 10 Commandments can be obtained by loving your neighbor as Christ loved you. Condemning people to hell based on Old Testament teaching is what led Christ to the Cross.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:56 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
To say that God's word must be set in stone for all time is completely ignorant. We weren't created not to evolve.
I do not speak as if I know the thoughts of our creator but our own ability to create and transform through AI and DNA reconfiguration must be quite the site for him to behold. As a creator himself it would probably heed us to follow his example.
Especially if we wish to instill kindness and acceptance into a race of beings smarter and more powerful than our own.
I do not speak as if I know the thoughts of our creator but our own ability to create and transform through AI and DNA reconfiguration must be quite the site for him to behold. As a creator himself it would probably heed us to follow his example.
Especially if we wish to instill kindness and acceptance into a race of beings smarter and more powerful than our own.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:03 pm to Commander Data
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1. Which gender are you most attracted to or is it equal?
Pretty equal for me.
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. I feel sorry for most gay men. Lots of them are lonely people and only have a couple of female friends .. Maybe it isn't like that elsewhere but it seems to be that way here in Alabama.
I get that. Alabama isn't the most accepting place in the world. That's why I don't advertise my sexuality. I generally keep it private. When you have some great people around you and supporting you, it makes it easier though.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:33 pm to Commander Data
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I feel sorry for most gay men. Lots of them are lonely people and only have a couple of female friends .. Maybe it isn't like that elsewhere but it seems to be that way here in Alabama.
How old are you? Maybe in the past it was like that, and probably in certain rural areas of the state it still is, but I know gay people in Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Auburn that are by no means lonely and have as many friends as they want do have. I've never lived in Mobile or Huntsville or spent tons of time in either but from the friends I have in those cities I would guess its the same way there. Those cities I mentioned and their surrounding areas represent the vast majority of the population of Alabama.
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