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Humiliation, homoeroticism and animal cruelty: inside the frathouse

Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:20 pm

Humiliation, homoeroticism and animal cruelty: inside the frathouse
| The Guardian, Sean O'Hagan ,Mon 10 Dec 2018

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Photographer Andrew Moisey uncovered ritual hazing, extreme drunkenness and toxic masculinity on one college campus – from men destined to be America’s future leader


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In his book True Gentlemen: The Broken Pledge of America’s Fraternities, John Hechinger notes that around 100,000 young men choose to be initiated into chapters annually, despite these all-male societies now being associated with what he describes as “the unholy trinity of fraternity life: racism, deadly drinking and misogyny


The article then goes on to Photographer Andrew Moisey’s book. Moisey is a Berkley graduate and now teaches at Cornell.

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Moisey, whose older brother was a member of the frat house in the book, began photographing there in 2008, when George W Bush, “the ultimate frat guy”, was president. “I was angry with Bush and the culture of white privilege that produced him and his values, but no one was that interested in the pictures. But now, suddenly it’s 2018 and the temperature has changed


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“Out of a fraternity culture that protects bad seeds, one of the worst seeds gets elected to the Supreme Court.”


Moisey on Kavanaugh.


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When young women appear in the photographs, the sense of danger is amplified. Some collude in the laddish behaviour, baring their breasts and appearing unconcerned about being groped and leered at. Others seem more uncertain, slightly spooked, yet they are there of their own volition despite the heightened atmosphere of male entitlement – even threat. Whichever, the image carries a disturbing charge, all the more so given the recent studies that have found that women in sororities are 74% more likely to be raped than other college women.


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“These all-male campus spaces have been around since the 1820s,” elaborates Moisey, “but they changed perceptibly during the so-called culture wars of the 1970s, becoming a safe space for guys who didn’t want to have to worry about having their kind of fun.” Many fraternities, he believes, now view themselves as embattled institutions, maintaining their conservative core values of brotherhood, privilege and machismo against a perceived liberal onslaught.


Andrew Moisey:



Sean O'Hagan:


John Hechinger:



What form of masculinity is not "toxic", in these people's eyes?

What "spaces" for men, if any, should be allowed to exist in these people's vision for the world?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:25 pm to
Looks like they didn't get any bids.
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:15 pm to
GDI's?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:16 pm to
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GDI's?

only thing worse than GDIs are ones that are proud to be GDIs
Posted by thatguy45
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:54 pm to
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Many fraternities, he believes, now view themselves as embattled institutions, maintaining their conservative core values of brotherhood, privilege and machismo against a perceived liberal onslaught.

Man if he views frat figs as misogynists and holding toxic masculinity, I wonder what he would think of me since I often view them as un-masculine and twatish.
Probably need to be put in a museum for being so barbaric
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:56 pm to
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un-masculine and twatish.


So that's what you think of me??

You forgot to add douchebag by the way.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Man if he views frat figs as misogynists and holding toxic masculinity, I wonder what he would think of


..or the military, or sports, or certain professions or any kind of work involving manual labor. What expression of masculinity isn't toxic in their interpretation of things? It's fricking ridiculous.
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:01 pm to
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You forgot to add douchebag

Nah I wouldn't describe them as douches. Some can be very nice people actually.

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So that's what you think of me?

not all fraternities are equal, some though can be kinda, off. Wearing school boy outfits, having your head and eye brows shaved, abusing the devil's lettuce, etc
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Wearing school boy outfits, having your head and eye brows shaved, abusing the devil's lettuce, etc


lol wtf?

There was none of that at USC.. (still don't think there is)
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:04 pm to
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What expression of masculinity isn't toxic in their interpretation of things

None, that's the idea I think. Some it seems when they mention equality mean a complete reversal of gender roles.
So no contact sports, red meat, wood working, heavy lifting, etc is to be done by a man
Don't know what causes a man to think the removal of masculinity is a good idea.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:05 pm to
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KSGamecock

these guys wouldn't last a minute at BAML
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Don't know what causes a man to think the removal of masculinity is a good idea.


A man who feels threatened by it and other men. A bitch if you will.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:06 pm to
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these guys wouldn't last a minute at BAML



A real animal house is it?
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:07 pm to
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A bitch if you will.

Yes but what causes a child to become a bitch? Lack of a father figure? Bullying?
If this crap keeps getting pushed itll be the death of our society.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:08 pm to
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A real animal house is it?


more like the Omegas.
But yes
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:09 pm to
Coddling by their Mothers.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:29 pm to
So when Andrew observed a dog getting punched, his response was to take a picture?

Lol. Sackless bitch.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:34 pm to
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So when Andrew observed a dog getting punched,


wait where does it say that?
Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:01 pm to
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