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re: How many thousands of years until current believers give up?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:28 pm to airfernando
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:28 pm to airfernando
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There are no atheists in foxholes or hell.
The guns and bombs of war know no discrimination from atheist or christian. There is no God. People who believe their religion (that was invented thousands of years after former religions) is some how superior to the rest are nothing but idiots of history and common sense. But hey, whatever makes you feel better.
The internet allows people to realize that there are many many more people out there who do not believe in such mindless rubbish and propaganda anymore. It is changing how people view politics, media, and religion. All three will have to continue to evolve to keep up. But it is inevitable since religion is always strongest among the uneducated, poor, and those that either live in strong family networks (social norms) or isolation.
The power of information without filter, (well much much less filter grrr google) allows people to research religions, talk to people who share beliefs that go beyond what were inherited from their family network. As this age grows so will the percentage of atheists. As more atheists grow and share it will invite more to grow and share. And then the rate gets faster and faster. Its only a matter of time before atheist out number religious people in all free first world countries.
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:28 pm to cas4t
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Maybe they'll do some good in society in the name of their God
Maybe they'll do some bad.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:30 pm to Stacked
Well your incessant bitching on the sec rant off topic board isn't going to prevent that, I promise. You're just trying to piss people off.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:32 pm to Stacked
Why do you care?
Don't you think people would so bad regardless of how they justify it?
Don't you think people would so bad regardless of how they justify it?
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:34 pm to chadr07
Damn thats an uneducated sentence
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:46 pm to Stacked
Your question is interesting but I don't think you're asking the right question.
I'm guessing off your question that you're an atheist. Religion (particularly organized religion) isn't going anywhere. The problem I have with Christianity is that the church as a whole has completely abandoned the very Word of God that they so proclaim to believe and preach.
We are in a time of apostasy and false prophets...of having our ears tickled...of fearing the displeasure of man as opposed to fearing the displeasure of God...of accepting sin and political correctness instead of recognizing it as deception from the enemy.
Deception is everywhere. I reiterate...religion isn't going anywhere.
I'm guessing off your question that you're an atheist. Religion (particularly organized religion) isn't going anywhere. The problem I have with Christianity is that the church as a whole has completely abandoned the very Word of God that they so proclaim to believe and preach.
We are in a time of apostasy and false prophets...of having our ears tickled...of fearing the displeasure of man as opposed to fearing the displeasure of God...of accepting sin and political correctness instead of recognizing it as deception from the enemy.
Deception is everywhere. I reiterate...religion isn't going anywhere.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:48 pm to Patton
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Why do you care?
Don't you think people would so bad regardless of how they justify it?
Because I'm for people having one less thing they use to justify whatever bad they were gonna do anyway.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:53 pm to BamaGround
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I'm guessing off your question that you're an atheist.
Not in the slightest interpretation of the word.
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Deception is everywhere. I reiterate...religion isn't going anywhere.
I agree, as was illustrated when I said it. Think of the Greek gods, someone could have argued "religion isn't going anywhere". They would have been right, but the Greek gods sure were. They were going like all those before it, and made way for what was coming after it. Someday the religions after it will do the exact same.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:19 pm to Stacked
Sorry if I came to the wrong conclusion.
On a side note I recently have read a few books that are off the mainstream Church route but are ones I found incredibly eye opening.
When Misfits Become Kings. This book really nails down some questions that should be both raised and answered in religion particularly Christianity but rarely are. And offers thought provoking self reflection.
The Supernatural Battle by Richard Grund, Aside from some glaring grammatical errors from poor editing the content is hair raising and has first hand encounters of the supernatural.
Brotherhood of Darkness This book goes into great detail (often sleep enducing) of real people and entities that exist that control all aspects of life on earth from political, financial, and spiritual worldwide going back hundreds and hundreds of years.
They're all worth reading regardless of one's religious beliefs.
On a side note I recently have read a few books that are off the mainstream Church route but are ones I found incredibly eye opening.
When Misfits Become Kings. This book really nails down some questions that should be both raised and answered in religion particularly Christianity but rarely are. And offers thought provoking self reflection.
The Supernatural Battle by Richard Grund, Aside from some glaring grammatical errors from poor editing the content is hair raising and has first hand encounters of the supernatural.
Brotherhood of Darkness This book goes into great detail (often sleep enducing) of real people and entities that exist that control all aspects of life on earth from political, financial, and spiritual worldwide going back hundreds and hundreds of years.
They're all worth reading regardless of one's religious beliefs.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:38 pm to Stacked
A thousand years is as a day to God. Shoot at least give him more than two days to get his crib ready for us.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:43 pm to BamaGround
Let me suggest a book to you. Actually it's not a book, just an outlook. Nobody on this earth has any more information about what's going on in the afterlife than you do. And nobody who's lived before you has had any more information than you do. Nobody is as qualified as you are, or any less qualified, to speak on the afterlife. This is a level playing field of guessers, realists and people who claim to "know." They don't, because they have the same information as you, and you don't know either.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:46 pm to Stacked
Well, since Islam is a cult and not so much a religion, it will 've next to die. Some prophet Mohammed decides to write a book and instructs his followers to kill. Not a religion bro
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:51 pm to Stacked
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Let me suggest a book to you. Actually it's not a book, just an outlook.
You just got stacked!
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:57 pm to Stacked
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In retrospect, looking back, that was the moment I was free.
If you are "free", why do you keep obsessing over Christianity?
You are like the chic that says she is better off without her ex, and she is glad he is gone, yet continues to bring him up in every conversation.
Your posting doesn't sound "free" to me.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:09 am to chattabama
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If you are "free", why do you keep obsessing over Christianity
Not sure what you're talking about. I mentioned Christianity only as part of the big-three modern day religions. Nothing I've said is exclusive to Christianity. It's in a bucket with all the other drops of religions.
It may seem like I talk mainly about Christians but that's because I happened to once be one, so my first hand experiences more directly involve them in particular.
And the reason I keep talking about it is because it feels great to get things said, and this is a place to say things.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:17 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:15 am to Stacked
I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who is familiar with your posts that you have an axe to grind with Christianity. That's fine. I just question why you claim that you are "free" when you continually obsess over something. To be free is to walk away from something, to not continually strive against it. (See the second half of Telefawx's post for further insight)
Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:21 am to chattabama
I freed myself to admit I've wasted a lot of time on a religion that is nothing more than what every other religion is. User generated content. That freedom may not seem like much to you but it means a great deal to me.
I did a lot of studying during my time under the cloth. So I have a lot of opinions now.
I did a lot of studying during my time under the cloth. So I have a lot of opinions now.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 1:00 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:38 am to cas4t
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If there is no God, then what's the difference? Maybe they'll do some good in society in the name of their God.
No doubt they will. But they will also do some terrible harm. 1000 years ago, the net benefit - harm effect of religion might have been positive. Now, it is unquestionably negative.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 7:39 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:44 am to GeeOH
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Islam is a cult and not so much a religion
The difference between a cult and a religion is not that much.
In a cult, there is one person or a small group of people at the top who know it's a scam.
In a religion, those people are dead.
That's it. That's the only difference.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:45 am to No Colors
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Jesus was no more or less the son of God than you or I. He was a man who lived an exemplary life. A life that we should all try to emulate.
That's it. That's the key to "eternal happiness" or salvation, or heaven, or whatever you want to call it. Help people. Give of yourself. Love your enemies. Don't covet, or hurt, or tell lies.
That's religion. Or, that's the Christian religion.
If this is what you think Christianity is, then you don't understand Christianity at all.
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